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Vatican approves N.O. nun going to SSPX
« on: January 04, 2012, 06:03:22 AM »
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    « Reply #1 on: January 04, 2012, 08:45:20 PM »
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  • Ecumenism.
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    « Reply #2 on: January 05, 2012, 06:56:38 PM »
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  • So, you think this is bad?
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    « Reply #3 on: January 05, 2012, 07:53:50 PM »
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  • I think it cannot be used as evidence Rome accepts the validity of SSPX confessions (and ecclesia supplet generally).

    Some will draw that conclusion erroneously.


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    Vatican approves N.O. nun going to SSPX
    « Reply #4 on: January 05, 2012, 08:37:42 PM »
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  • Yes, I think it's bad. Not that Rome approves of a nun going over to the SSPX but that the SSPX would accept a nun coming over from the NO. I understand that some NO clergy switch to tradition but they usually go through some deprogramming/traditional formation before they are fully accepted.

    I certainly would not go to an SSPX priest if i knew came from the NO without being conditionally reordained and thoroughly deprogrammed.  

    If I'm not mistaken that article was published on the Sister's website and then removed within a matter of days. Obviously it wasn't going over very well.


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    « Reply #5 on: January 05, 2012, 11:20:52 PM »
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    « Reply #6 on: January 06, 2012, 12:01:42 PM »
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  • Is the new sister the one in the center in the photo — the one NOT wearing a habit?
    "Jesus was the fruit of Mary, as Elizabeth expressed it: 'Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb.' Whoever wishes for the fruit, must go to the tree; whoever wishes for Jesus must go to Mary; and he who finds Mary, also certain

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    « Reply #7 on: January 06, 2012, 09:22:30 PM »
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  • Quote from: Seraphim
    I think it cannot be used as evidence Rome accepts the validity of SSPX confessions (and ecclesia supplet generally).

    Some will draw that conclusion erroneously.




    I see.  Thanks.
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    « Reply #8 on: January 07, 2012, 09:41:32 AM »
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  • Does she still retain the title "Mother" even though she has transferred? No date is given of the actual transfer, and one person told me that it was some years ago and that she is in fact the foundress of this branch of Dominican nuns. Perhaps someone will be able to clarify this.

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    « Reply #9 on: January 09, 2012, 06:04:57 PM »
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  • Traditio has a letter from an SSPXer who says they did a half Novus Ordo Service recently.
    second article
    http://www.traditio.com/comment/com1201.htm

    Dear TRADITIO Fathers:

    An elderly lady and very loyal SSPXer for many years passed away a year ago. For her first-anniversary Requiem Mass, Neo-SSPXers here were shocked when a priest-presbyter on holiday here performed a Half Novus Ordo Vatican II "Motu" Mess in the local Novus Ordo parish for the occasion. It has been known for a long time that Fellay's priest-presbyters genuflect before the Novus Ordo tabernacle because Fellay ridiculously claims that the invalid Protestant-Masonic-Pagan Novus Ordo service "may" be valid!

    Actually, this Half Novus Ordo Mess was a step up for this Neo-SSPX priest-presbyter. His normal assignment is to simulate the invalid Full Novus Ordo service at a Newchurch home for retired presbyters! Can the Neo-SSPX's complete sellout to the New Order be far off?

    P.S. Please do not divulge my name as Fellay may kick me out of the Neo-SSPX site and deny me the Sacraments. He is known to be vicious toward laymen and priests who disagree with his autocracy and has already expelled several of them.

    The TRADITIO Fathers Reply.

    The Neo-SSPX's complete sellout to the New Order is obviously in preparation and already has been for several years. Bernie Fellay and Benedict-Ratzinger are credibly rumored to have conspired to have the sellout all ready to go on February 2, 2009, but on January 21, 2009, SSPX bishop Richard Williamson's opinion questioning the exaggerated view of the World War II "holocaust" being propagandized by secular Jewish interests was aired on Swedish Public Television. This blew Ratzinger's "oecumenical" efforts to cater to secular Jewish organizations to smithereens, together with Fellay's planned sellout of the Neo-SSPX to the New Order sect.

    In the case you mention, this Neo-SSPX priest-presbyter may simply be representative of the increasing number of Novus Ordo-slanted clergy reported from sites around the world, that Fellay is grooming in preparation for his complete sellout to the New Order.

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    « Reply #10 on: January 10, 2012, 03:17:04 AM »
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  • Quote from: Thursday
    Traditio has a letter from an SSPXer who says they did a half Novus Ordo Service recently.
    second article
    http://www.traditio.com/comment/com1201.htm

    Dear TRADITIO Fathers:

    An elderly lady and very loyal SSPXer for many years passed away a year ago. For her first-anniversary Requiem Mass, Neo-SSPXers here were shocked when a priest-#### on holiday here performed a Half Novus Ordo Vatican II "Motu" Mess in the local Novus Ordo parish for the occasion. It has been known for a long time that Fellay's priest-#### genuflect before the Novus Ordo tabernacle because Fellay ridiculously claims that the invalid Protestant-Masonic-Pagan Novus Ordo service "may" be valid!

    Actually, this Half Novus Ordo Mess was a step up for this Neo-SSPX priest-####. His normal assignment is to simulate the invalid Full Novus Ordo service at a Newchurch home for retired ####! Can the Neo-SSPX's complete sellout to the New Order be far off?

    P.S. Please do not divulge my name as Fellay may kick me out of the Neo-SSPX site and deny me the Sacraments. He is known to be vicious toward laymen and priests who disagree with his autocracy and has already expelled several of them.

    The TRADITIO Fathers Reply.

    The Neo-SSPX's complete sellout to the New Order is obviously in preparation and already has been for several years. Bernie Fellay and Benedict-Ratzinger are credibly rumored to have conspired to have the sellout all ready to go on February 2, 2009, but on January 21, 2009, SSPX bishop Richard Williamson's opinion questioning the exaggerated view of the World War II "holocaust" being propagandized by secular Jewish interests was aired on Swedish Public Television. This blew Ratzinger's "oecumenical" efforts to cater to secular Jewish organizations to smithereens, together with Fellay's planned sellout of the Neo-SSPX to the New Order sect.

    In the case you mention, this Neo-SSPX priest-#### may simply be representative of the increasing number of Novus Ordo-slanted clergy reported from sites around the world, that Fellay is grooming in preparation for his complete sellout to the New Order.


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    « Reply #11 on: January 10, 2012, 07:13:46 AM »
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    Proof that any nut case can create a website and post on the internet.


    What an inane comment.

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    « Reply #12 on: January 10, 2012, 08:36:54 AM »
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    Proof that any nut case can create a website and post on the internet.


    What an inane comment.


    The entire letter is "inane", I'd be embarrased to post such a letter on my website (if I had one).
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     Right is right even if no one is doing it." - Saint Augustine

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    « Reply #13 on: January 11, 2012, 04:19:28 AM »
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  • Quote from: nadieimportante
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    Traditio has a letter from an SSPXer who says they did a half Novus Ordo Service recently.
    second article
    http://www.traditio.com/comment/com1201.htm

    Dear TRADITIO Fathers:

    An elderly lady and very loyal SSPXer for many years passed away a year ago. For her first-anniversary Requiem Mass, Neo-SSPXers here were shocked ....]

    This story is so remarkably similar to one in Mumbai, India. Last year, when an elderly SSPX faithful died in that town, the family, some of whom were attending SSPX Masses, opted instead for a Novus Ordo funeral Mass and burial service. A few days ago when the first death anniversary occurred, they asked an old retired priest who lives in Europe but spends some of the winter months in India, to say the Latin Mass for them. Some of the Mumbai SSPX faithful attended this Mass and the SSPX District Bursar, Fr Laisney, led the singing.

     

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