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Offline Vandaler

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« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2011, 12:26:28 PM »
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  • Quote from: gladius_veritatis
    Thanks for stopping in and sharing nothing of value, Van ;)

    Why not enlighten those you believe are illiterate?


    My pleasure ;-)

    I have no more information then what's out there officially.

    My comment was general, and not specific to this situation. Actually, in this case, I'm a little disappointed in this site.  How long will it take to pin this earthquake on the "Elites" or other usual suspects like it was done so aptly in the case of Haiti?



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    « Reply #16 on: March 15, 2011, 12:31:09 PM »
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    It's a scientific unknown, in terms of what will happen, and the scientific impacts from what has already happened.  Radiation is just contaminated particles of matter.  Depending on how these particles of matter distribute themselves throughout the cryosphere is a major uncertainty.


    Agreed Jehanne, and it's why I shook my head in disbelief when I saw an alarmist radiation chart posted here.  


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    « Reply #17 on: March 15, 2011, 02:34:37 PM »
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    Thanks for stopping in and sharing nothing of value, Van ;)

    Why not enlighten those you believe are illiterate?


    My pleasure ;-)

    I have no more information then what's out there officially.





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    « Reply #18 on: March 15, 2011, 02:37:21 PM »
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    Agreed Jehanne, and it's why I shook my head in disbelief when I saw an alarmist radiation chart posted here.  


    The mistake of an individual is not that of the collective.
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    « Reply #19 on: March 15, 2011, 02:50:19 PM »
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    Agreed Jehanne, and it's why I shook my head in disbelief when I saw an alarmist radiation chart posted here.  


    The mistake of an individual is not that of the collective.


    I absolutely agree with that... in fact, it's healthy when a mistake is seen and corrected by others.  That's the beauty of the free market of ideas when the bad gets moved to the side and that the better gets promoted after being reviewed collectively.

    However, the above is a rare occurrence. It becomes  a "collective" problem when the peer review process is traded in for an unhealthy appetite for bad news.


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    « Reply #20 on: March 15, 2011, 05:06:07 PM »
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    Agreed Jehanne, and it's why I shook my head in disbelief when I saw an alarmist radiation chart posted here.  


    The mistake of an individual is not that of the collective.


    The map in question was only on this board for less than 2 hours, before the fraud was noted (by me.)

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    « Reply #21 on: March 16, 2011, 12:10:52 AM »
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    No, because your overly concerned about what other people think. You may not have noticed how many times you've said that we are giving a bad impression and coming off as alarmists. The fact is that YOU are just afraid of digging into to the issues sifting through them because your worried about looking like a weirdo.

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    Jesus answered him: If I have spoken evil, give testimony of the evil; but if well, why strikest thou me?
     
    Readers: Please IGNORE all my postings here. I was a recent convert and fell into errors, even heresy for which hopefully my ignorance excuses. These include rejecting the "rhythm method," rejecting the idea of "implicit faith," and being brieflfy quasi-Jansenist. I also posted occasions of sins and links to occasions of sin, not understanding the concept much at the time, so do not follow my links.

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    « Reply #22 on: March 16, 2011, 06:49:07 AM »
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    Jesus answered him: If I have spoken evil, give testimony of the evil; but if well, why strikest thou me?
     


    We got duped, I admit that.  The chart looked completely authentic, until I went out to the website of the company whose logo was on the chart.  We did not, however, get duped for very long.


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    « Reply #23 on: March 16, 2011, 09:07:31 AM »
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    The map in question was only on this board for less than 2 hours, before the fraud was noted (by me.)


    Great stuff, well done.

    Will you have the courage to take on all the other stuff that will make you unpopular though ?

    You know, the contrail conspiracists, the anti-vaccine lobby, paleo-astronomy run amok and the list goes on around the corner.

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    « Reply #24 on: March 16, 2011, 09:30:31 AM »
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    Quote from: Jehanne
    The map in question was only on this board for less than 2 hours, before the fraud was noted (by me.)


    Great stuff, well done.

    Will you have the courage to take on all the other stuff that will make you unpopular though ?

    You know, the contrail conspiracists, the anti-vaccine lobby, paleo-astronomy run amok and the list goes on around the corner.


    I can definitively speak to the "anti-vaccine lobby," because I worked for 14 years in Statistical Process Control.  Are vaccines safe?  Well, it depends on what one means by "safe"?  In statistics, this is referred to as Beta, that is, that the null hypothesis for a given experiment (in this case, the safety of vaccines -- no one is, of course, arguing about their efficacy) being true.  It is, of course, "impossible to prove a negative" (in general, at least), that is, that some drug will not cause an adverse effect for any given individual.

    This is why some drugs are prescription, while others are "over the counter."  Drugs that are prescription-only have been demonstrated to have efficacy, that is, they have scientific and statistical evidence demonstrating their usefulness in fighting human disease and illness.  However, due to their small sample size and potential side-effects, such drugs have been deemed by the health authorities not to be safe for the general population to use at an individual's discretion.

    One need only look at the drug Vioxx to see how a drug, which no one disputes as to its efficacy, turned out to be very dangerous when used by a large segment of the population, due, entirely, to Big Pharma's desire to make as much money as possible.

    With vaccines, they do have efficacy, but for even the smallest subsets of the population, they may involve substantial, even if unknown, risks.  As with any drug, it is a question of "informed consent," which means that you, as individual or as a parent of a child, have the right to decide whether or not you want to take that risk with yourself or with your own child.

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    « Reply #25 on: March 16, 2011, 02:01:28 PM »
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    Catholic Samurai said:
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    No, because your overly concerned about what other people think. You may not have noticed how many times you've said that we are giving a bad impression and coming off as alarmists. The fact is that YOU are just afraid of digging into to the issues sifting through them because your worried about looking like a weirdo.

    Fraidy cat.


    Jesus answered him: If I have spoken evil, give testimony of the evil; but if well, why strikest thou me?
     


    Dont pull out Scripture on me. Go back and read your own old posts, and some of your older posts as well if you think I speak dishonestly. The proof is in the pudding.
    "Louvada Siesa O' Sanctisimo Sacramento!"~warcry of the Amakusa/Shimabara rebels

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