How soon in the USA? Anytime, because the New Order is owned and operated by the Federal gov't. How do we know this? All the grants that are received of the new order. Catholic Extenstion plays the gave of take the peoples money and give to the fed and for every $1 the charties that give it , get $3 back in grants to pay for churches to be built and seminarians books and medical to be paid for. How long has Catholic Extension been around, I think 50 years. So, my thoughts are, whoever owns the church, will have the say.