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Title: Typhoid epidemic (not gas) in Dachau
Post by: Incredulous on December 30, 2019, 09:12:38 PM


A historical slip up here?

How could they dare claim it was typhoid fever, not "nαzι gas" that wiped out prisoners in Dachau?


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Blessed Fr. Richard Henkes, S.A.C., A Picture of His Life by Fr. Alexander Holzbach, S.A.C.


In April 1943, after a homily, he was sent to prison and finally to the Dachau cσncєnтrαтισn cαмρ. With the prisoner number 49642, he was forced to work in Dachau in various places. Even under these inhumane conditions, he was moved - as before in Strandorf - by concern for the people, and especially about the reconciliation between Germans and Czechs. Here in the cσncєnтrαтισn cαмρ, Father Henkes continued learning the Czech language, which he had already begun to learn in his parish. 
 
The lower left corner of the picture shows the devotion of Father Henkes to his fellow prisoners and his commitment to reconciliation. At the end of 1944, a major typhoid epidemic broke out in Dachau. This also affected Block 17, where Father Henkes worked as a "cantinero" and a secret pastor. When the block was quarantined because of the risk of infection, Father Henkes volunteered to stay in the Block and assisted the sick in a human and spiritual way.
Title: Re: Typhoid epidemic (not gas) in Dachau
Post by: Haydock Fan on December 30, 2019, 10:48:27 PM
Great post. Thanks for sharing :-)
Title: Re: Typhoid epidemic (not gas) in Dachau
Post by: Nadir on December 30, 2019, 11:04:12 PM
Yes! Is there a link please, Incred?
Title: Re: Typhoid epidemic (not gas) in Dachau
Post by: klasG4e on December 31, 2019, 07:40:01 AM
Yes! Is there a link please, Incred?

Here it is: https://www.catholicapostolatecenter.org/fr-richard-henkes.html (https://www.catholicapostolatecenter.org/fr-richard-henkes.html)
 
And as you can see here is the next paragraph of the text:
The picture shows at the top left, how he lovingly takes care of the sick and those in need of care - without fear of nearness and infection. After about ten weeks, Richard Henkes was infected with typhoid. He died on February 22, 1945. The bottom of the picture shows his corpse with his arms spread out wide. His posture reminds us of the crucified Lord: "Greater love has no one than this, that someone lay down his life for his friends." (Jn 15:13). Again and again, Father Henkes learned that his projects and plans are foiled. Barbed wire runs through the entire picture and spares the heart of Richard Henkes.

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Even under the new modernized beatification and canonization procedures, I assume that they gather much evidence given under sworn oath.  If this be the case it may be of particular note in so much as the one giving the testimony was presumably not about to falsify that testimony in order to avoid the fact of their being an outbreak of typhus.
Title: Re: Typhoid epidemic (not gas) in Dachau
Post by: Ekim on December 31, 2019, 09:48:08 AM
Huh?  Nowhere does it say that Jews were NOT killed by “nαzι gas”, only that a typhoid epidemic broke out.  The two can exist simultaneously.
Title: Re: Typhoid epidemic (not gas) in Dachau
Post by: tdrev123 on December 31, 2019, 10:20:55 AM
So there are no Jєωιѕн (mainstream) historians who still claim that there were has chambers at Dachau.  They used to, especially as Dachau was the only cσncєnтrαтισn cαмρ that they claimed had chambers and it was on the western border.  But because it was on the western side eventually there was no way to hide the fact that there were no gas chambers.  
Title: Re: Typhoid epidemic (not gas) in Dachau
Post by: Ladislaus on December 31, 2019, 10:27:11 AM
Huh?  Nowhere does it say that Jews were NOT killed by “nαzι gas”, only that a typhoid epidemic broke out.  The two can exist simultaneously.

Theoretically, yes.  But all those pictures of piles of emaciated bodies in the liberated camps were of Typhoid victims ... which made them look like that.  Typhoid was spread by lice, and the so-called "gas chambers" were actually used for delousing ... to help control Typhoid.  That's also, by the way, why most cσncєnтrαтισn cαмρ detainees had shaved heads.  There was a certain scientist who ran chemical tests on the inside walls of the alleged gas chambers, and he found only traces of a known delousing chemical (Zyklon B), and nothing related to something that could have been used for extermination.
Title: Re: Typhoid epidemic (not gas) in Dachau
Post by: Ekim on December 31, 2019, 11:23:06 AM
Thanks for the clarification Ladislaus.

I’ve heard that too saddled by the fact that Germans built substantial healthcare facilities at these camps (why if they only planned extermination?) and Eichman himself stated that the initial plan was to relocate Jews not kill them.  However the horrors of war enveloped all involved...Americans committed many atrocities as well, although hardly spoken of.

I’ve watched hours and hours of testimony on YouTube of the trials at Nuremberg as well as Eichmans testimony.  Not a single person, no nαzι, or even Eichman himself testified about typhoid....seems odd to me if this was the case.  A simple biopsy would have proven this case.
Title: Re: Typhoid epidemic (not gas) in Dachau
Post by: Ekim on December 31, 2019, 11:30:57 AM
the Leuchter Report was debunked and Polish researchers stated unequivocally that Cyanide was found in the bricks.  The initial lab used for the Leuchter analysis stated they didn’t test for Cyanide, had that been specifically requested the tests would have been conducted differently.

There is no doubt that horrible atrocities took place and millions of people died.  But the facts don’t line up for the current narrative being peddled as truth.

I’m not sure we will ever know what really happened.  We do know however, that the victor tells the tail...unfortunately, not all of their story is convincing.

Title: Re: Typhoid epidemic (not gas) in Dachau
Post by: Ladislaus on December 31, 2019, 11:38:28 AM
Thanks for the clarification Ladislaus.

I’ve heard that too saddled by the fact that Germans built substantial healthcare facilities at these camps (why if they only planned extermination?) and Eichman himself stated that the initial plan was to relocate Jews not kill them.  However the horrors of war enveloped all involved...Americans committed many atrocities as well, although hardly spoken of.

I’ve watched hours and hours of testimony on YouTube of the trials at Nuremberg as well as Eichmans testimony.  Not a single person, no nαzι, or even Eichman himself testified about typhoid....seems odd to me if this was the case.  A simple biopsy would have proven this case.

Well, the only thing about Typhoid was that the presence of Typhoid victims by itself could not prove that they had not actually exterminate others.  I'm sure that the nαzιs did in fact execute and butcher a fair number of Jews (and just as many non-Jews) ... so the Typhoid defense would not really exonerate them from those crimes.  But there was no systematic "let's gas all the Jews" program out there.  Nothing of the sort has ever been proven.  And the 6 million number is completely made up.  In fact, the Jews tried to float the exact same number in World War I ... but no one bought it back then.
Title: Re: Typhoid epidemic (not gas) in Dachau
Post by: Bonaventure on December 31, 2019, 11:44:08 AM
Well, this is not all that surprising, given that Dachau never had any ovens to dispose of bodies.  The shiny new ones you see there today were installed ex post facto.
Title: Re: Typhoid epidemic (not gas) in Dachau
Post by: Incredulous on December 31, 2019, 05:53:26 PM
Well, this is not all that surprising, given that Dachau never had any ovens to dispose of bodies.  The shiny new ones you see there today were installed ex post facto.

Most camps had a few "krema" ovens for cremation of infectious corpses.  
This is necessary in an institutional operation with thousands of people.

(https://www.werelderfgoedfotos.nl/images/galleries/84/full/7.Auschwitz%20-%20Birkenau.jpg)

But these crematoriums had no "productivity" to them. They were processing one or two bodies at a time.

The Germans would need large scale incinerators if they were executing tens of thousands of bodies monthly... as the zionists claim.

In addition to the missing incinerators, tall chimneys are needed to exhaust the poisonous gases.    They did not exist.

Bp. Williamson explained this in his controversial interview in 2009.  He referred to the large historical archive of Allied aerial photos, which docuмented all the German camps in Europe.  

Chimneys are very distinct structures in photo-interpretation.  There were no such chimneys which meant there were no gas chambers.

So you see, the jews really are technically dumb... liars.  :cowboy:
Title: Re: Typhoid epidemic (not gas) in Dachau
Post by: clarkaim on January 02, 2020, 12:23:42 PM
not Typhoid but Typhus, different diseases.  one comes from salmonella infected food, the other from fleas and body lice.
Title: Re: Typhoid epidemic (not gas) in Dachau
Post by: LeDeg on January 02, 2020, 06:30:21 PM
the Leuchter Report was debunked and Polish researchers stated unequivocally that Cyanide was found in the bricks.  The initial lab used for the Leuchter analysis stated they didn’t test for Cyanide, had that been specifically requested the tests would have been conducted differently.

There is no doubt that horrible atrocities took place and millions of people died.  But the facts don’t line up for the current narrative being peddled as truth.

I’m not sure we will ever know what really happened.  We do know however, that the victor tells the tail...unfortunately, not all of their story is convincing.
Bullsh*t it was. Germar Rudolf did an extensive and intense forensic analysis in regards to the "gas" chambers. To believe the accepted narrative is to defy reason.
Watch this. The 6 million number was decided upon long before the NSDAP came to power. It is тαℓмυdic in origin. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CHzPLzkP24 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CHzPLzkP24)
Title: Re: Typhoid epidemic (not gas) in Dachau
Post by: klasG4e on January 02, 2020, 10:11:01 PM
Bullsh*t it was. Germar Rudolf did an extensive and intense forensic analysis in regards to the "gas" chambers. To believe the accepted narrative is to defy reason.
Watch this. The 6 million number was decided upon long before the NSDAP came to power. It is тαℓмυdic in origin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CHzPLzkP24 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CHzPLzkP24)
Below are two of the comments posted under the video.  I too hope they can somehow manage to keep the video up -- one step ahead of .....
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Diksaca Yehovah  (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCME2eAzUTrlqAcCruLx4cGQ)2 weeks ago (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CHzPLzkP24&lc=Ugw90d-O2ZFX96uPWt14AaABAg)  
The original was taken down by ¿€vvtube.


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Mark Wilson  (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_O5coSkir4VSV8rMZCaFtQ)1 month ago (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CHzPLzkP24&lc=Ugwu3v-i2oHkZAPBEVt4AaABAg)  
Thanks for keeping this one step ahead of YouTube's efforts to remove it from the public's mind.
Title: Re: Typhoid epidemic (not gas) in Dachau
Post by: Ekim on January 03, 2020, 07:33:56 PM
Thanks LeDeg...interesting.

Like I said, the stories the mainstream “historians” are peddling don’t match the evidence.

Please correct me if I’m wrong, but in the last 4-6 months of the war weren’t many on the cσncєnтrαтισn cαмρs abandoned by the Germans and taken over by Stalin, greatly responsible for the end stage starvation?
Title: Re: Typhoid epidemic (not gas) in Dachau
Post by: LeDeg on January 07, 2020, 12:27:38 PM
Thanks LeDeg...interesting.

Like I said, the stories the mainstream “historians” are peddling don’t match the evidence.

Please correct me if I’m wrong, but in the last 4-6 months of the war weren’t many on the cσncєnтrαтισn cαмρs abandoned by the Germans and taken over by Stalin, greatly responsible for the end stage starvation?
We have docuмented proof of statements by prisoners that they as prisoners were given the option to stay or come with the Germans. Many came with the Germans for fear of the Communists. This flies in the face of the accepted narrative of what went on in the camps.
The real carnage to the prisoners was ironically due to the indiscriminate bombing campaigns of the Allies. They bombed any rail heads they could find, which included the camps. Food and medicine could not be brought in. 
Now, the supporters of the typical narrative would state they would not have suffered if they weren't in the camps to begin with. Considering the carpet bombing of the Dresden, Hamburg and over 150 other German cities that killed millions of civilians, there was no guarantee of safety for anyone outside the camps.
Title: Re: Typhoid epidemic (not gas) in Dachau
Post by: Ekim on January 07, 2020, 06:37:06 PM
Great insight.  Thanks again.

I also heard it said that the allegations that countless Jews were incinerated is also a fallacy. Germans need valuable and limited petrol to drive their war machine.  They could not afford to expend it on cremations.  Your thoughts?
Title: Re: Typhoid epidemic (not gas) in Dachau
Post by: klasG4e on January 07, 2020, 08:57:49 PM
The following is taken from the article at this link: http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v17/v17n2p19_Faurisson.html (http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v17/v17n2p19_Faurisson.html)

Eisenhower, Churchill, de Gaulle
Three of the best known works on the Second World War are General Eisenhower's Crusade in Europe (New York: Doubleday [Country Life Press], 1948), Winston Churchill's The Second World War (London: Cassell, 6 vols., 1948-1954), and the Mémoires de guerre of General de Gaulle (Paris: Plon, 3 vols., 1954-1959). In these three works not the least mention of nαzι gas chambers is to be found.
Eisenhower's Crusade in Europe is a book of 559 pages; the six volumes of Churchill's Second World War total 4,448 pages; and de Gaulle's three-volume Mémoires de guerre is 2,054 pages. In this mass of writing, which altogether totals 7,061 pages (not including the introductory parts), published from 1948 to 1959, one will find no mention either of nαzι "gas chambers," a "genocide" of the Jews, or of "six million" Jєωιѕн victims of the war.

Elie Wiesel
The same goes for the autobiographical account, Night (New York: Hill and Wang, 1960), in which Elie Wiesel relates his experience of Auschwitz and Buchenwald. Moreover, in the first volume of his memoirs, All Rivers Run to the Sea (New York: Random House/Knopf, 1995, p. 74), he writes, "Let the gas chambers remain closed to prying eyes, and to imagination."
Title: Re: Typhoid epidemic (not gas) in Dachau
Post by: klasG4e on January 07, 2020, 09:25:12 PM
Here's a great contribution from Mark 79's site: http://judaism.is/h0Ɩ0cαųst.html (http://judaism.is/h0Ɩ0cαųst.html)
Title: Re: Typhoid epidemic (not gas) in Dachau
Post by: LeDeg on January 08, 2020, 12:12:18 PM
Here's a great contribution from Mark 79's site: http://judaism.is/h0Ɩ0cαųst.html (http://judaism.is/h0Ɩ0cαųst.html)
Excellent website. Well done Mark!
Title: Re: Typhoid epidemic (not gas) in Dachau
Post by: LeDeg on January 08, 2020, 12:19:05 PM
Great insight.  Thanks again.

I also heard it said that the allegations that countless Jews were incinerated is also a fallacy. Germans need valuable and limited petrol to drive their war machine.  They could not afford to expend it on cremations.  Your thoughts?
The dynamics involved in cremating that many bodies in that short of time in those ovens that are presented would render this to be an impossibility. Since even the Jews acknowledge the "efficient" nature of the Germans, surely if they wanted to dispose of the Jєωιѕн race, there are far better ways of doing it. Bullets are cheap. 
Again, Germar Rudolf has done excellent forensic work on this subject. David Cole's famous video, who himself is a Jew, exposes the contradictory lies that have been sold to the public. Ernst Zundel's work is legendary. The Barnes Review has excellent books, including Rudolf's series on the camps. It's all out there. 
Title: Re: Typhoid epidemic (not gas) in Dachau
Post by: Ekim on January 08, 2020, 04:53:24 PM
Thanks for the references
Title: Re: Typhoid epidemic (not gas) in Dachau
Post by: claudel on January 09, 2020, 03:46:04 AM
Ekim or anyone else who is still a believer in the h0Ɩ0h0αx needs to familiarize himself with the great mass of incontrovertible evidence that establishes the utter dishonesty and deception of mainstream contemporary studies of twentieth-century history, virtually all of whose chroniclers are either Jєωιѕн or completely dependent upon Jews for their career or even their ability to get their writings published.

The online historical journal Inconvenient History (http://www.inconvenienthistory.com/) is an excellent resource. The numerous articles written by Carlo Mattogno are an especially good place to start reading.