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Offline Napoli

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« on: June 24, 2013, 04:48:28 PM »
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    • Thought I would change gears from long hair and racial stuff to something near and dear to my heart, hunting.

    Anyone use a 223 to kill bear? I bought a Benelli MR1 a while ago and took it hunting last week. It was very effective and the bear went down in one shot. About 125 yards. Now I am beginning to wonder why I carried that 30-06 around for so many years when this semi-auto, which is loads of fun to shoot, could have been my favourite.

    I use a Leupold v3 R 3-9x40 scope.

    Any thoughts from hunters? Please no animal lover hate towards hunters please!

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    « Reply #1 on: June 24, 2013, 05:49:06 PM »
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    • no hate...

    but...but...but...

    poor widdle bear  :cry:
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    Offline Arbogastes

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    « Reply #2 on: June 24, 2013, 05:55:12 PM »
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    • Seems a bit childish to me. Why do you have to hunt and kill an innocent animal to prove your manliness?

    I would prefer jousting any given day.
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    Offline Luker

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    « Reply #3 on: June 24, 2013, 08:14:34 PM »
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    • What?!?! Hunting has always been a noble and manly sport, what is with the hate? City slickers?

    Bears are delicious by the way... mmmm smoked bear hams  :ready-to-eat:

    Anyways, Benelli makes some pretty fine guns but 223 is a bit light for bear I think.  Not doubting that you killed it clean, but not much margin for error in such a light bullet as 223. What kind of bullet did you use a Nosler Partition or Copper X bullet?? I mostly run 7mm/30-30/30-06 but I have thought about trading one of my rifles and getting a 243.  Nice flat shooting caliber.

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    Offline ShepherdofSheep

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    « Reply #4 on: June 24, 2013, 08:17:03 PM »
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    • Can't weigh in much on bear hunting, but I do support responsible hunting practices, and it's a part of our life and culture here in the Midwest.  It's absolutely necessary to keep the populations down to a sustainable level (deer especially), for the protection of livestock and property, and it's great wholesome food for the table.  

    A good clean shot after roaming about in the woods for its entire life seems like the least painful way to die.  I would wager that most deaths for wildlife are far less "humane"- being struck by vehicles, attacked by predators, dying slowly of starvation or disease or injury.  

    I've never known a hunter to be bloodthirsty; there's always respect for the animal and the land (not all are, I realize), and they are grateful for the food.  I think they just enjoy the challenge of being close to nature and having to actually work for their dinner.
     
    Perhaps it's a maternal reaction, but I do feel a sense of sadness anytime a life has to be taken, but if it's for a good reason, then in the eyes of God it's right.  

    I am a good shot and I've heard that bear is delicious!
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    « Reply #5 on: June 24, 2013, 08:27:40 PM »
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    • The bear was harvested very humanely. Died seconds after I shot it. In case your wondering, my buddies had it lined up with there 30-06's.
    Jousting? Sure, anytime. I have ridden horses since I could walk. I also have a nasty disposition.

    Hunting is an excellent way for men to bond and share. We usually do it without our wives and they are all traditional catholics. What could be better than quietly saying the rosary together while tracking an animal? I love being out in God's finest creation too.

    Pax
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    « Reply #6 on: June 24, 2013, 08:29:27 PM »
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    • I don't hunt, however, I see nothing wrong with it.  It IS manly, and at times, necessary for food, animal products and protection.  If I have a weapon and am confronted by a wild animal, I win!
    The only animal I've ever shot was a coyote that came too close for comfort.  
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    « Reply #7 on: June 24, 2013, 08:31:38 PM »
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    • The meat is wonderful. Nothing like it in a grocery store. Truly organic.
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    « Reply #8 on: June 24, 2013, 08:54:31 PM »
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    • I did not mean to say that hunting under all circuмstances was wrong (if I was unclear before, then I apologize). I certainly do recognize that there are many perfectly legitimate reasons for hunting (e.g. keeping down animal populations, hunting animals for food, making a living, etc.); however, what I do not like about it is when hunting turns into a game of "sporty trophy-hunting" where the object is to simply get the most prizes regardless of whether or not one intends to respect the local biosphere food-chain or even salvage the carcass.  
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    « Reply #9 on: June 24, 2013, 09:07:40 PM »
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    • Have you ever heard of Hank Shaw? I don't know his politics, but he has really great game recipes. I seem to remember more recently his blog involved braised bear shanks, prepared like osso bucco, or ursa bucco as some called it.

    Anyways, I am looking forward to learning how to hunt someday, just because I think it is a great skill that is becoming lost.
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    « Reply #10 on: June 24, 2013, 09:10:51 PM »
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    but...but...but...

    poor widdle bear  :cry:


    Have you seen ?

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    « Reply #11 on: June 24, 2013, 09:42:12 PM »
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    •  :scratchchin:   Anyone know a good dentist?
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    « Reply #12 on: June 24, 2013, 09:50:08 PM »
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    • I hope that is the only time I see the inside of a bear's mouth.   :smile:

    I tasted bear once, and didn't like it.  Venison is wonderful though.  

    I Bremen once hearing a radio story about birth control for the bear population in a particular place.  I remember thinking, "Just how big is an ursine birth control pill?  And convincing the bear to take it must be just about the worst job in the world."
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    « Reply #13 on: June 24, 2013, 10:12:42 PM »
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    I hope that is the only time I see the inside of a bear's mouth.   :smile:

    I tasted bear once, and didn't like it.  Venison is wonderful though.  

    I Bremen once hearing a radio story about birth control for the bear population in a particular place.  I remember thinking, "Just how big is an ursine birth control pill?  And convincing the bear to take it must be just about the worst job in the world."


    Likely it's something injectable or an implant of some type.  I've heard of such things being developed for cats and if my memory serves me properly, also deer and mustang mares.  I would need to look into it, but maybe it's a slow-release progesterone implant?  It'd have to be in a sufficient dose, but it could work.  CIDRs are used in ewes and cows to synchronize estrus- they are a T-shaped sponge that it inserted into the vagina of the animal using a device that inserts them properly.  They are removed after a certain point, and the ewe or cow can then get her hormones "back into gear" and she'll come into estrus.  Not saying it's the safest or most beneficial thing, but they do work well and under certain conditions are merited.

    Obviously I am ONLY talking about animals, not condoning any such thing for humans.  
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    « Reply #14 on: June 24, 2013, 10:14:05 PM »
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    • Oh, and cattle boluses are about the size of a man's thumb.  Maybe a "bear pill" would be around that size, Sigismund?   :smile:
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