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Offline Matthew

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Re: Traditional Catholic teaching on torture?
« Reply #45 on: November 04, 2020, 08:33:07 AM »
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  • Forget about torture.

    I want to know the Catholic doctrine on ιnѕυrrєcтισn, rebellion, guerilla warfare, overthrowing a tyrant, etc.

    Asking for a friend. Purely hypothetical. Totally unrelated to the election results.
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    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: Traditional Catholic teaching on torture?
    « Reply #46 on: November 04, 2020, 12:12:44 PM »
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  • Forget about torture.

    I want to know the Catholic doctrine on ιnѕυrrєcтισn, rebellion, guerilla warfare, overthrowing a tyrant, etc.

    Asking for a friend. Purely hypothetical. Totally unrelated to the election results.

    I hear you.

    In all seriousness, I've struggled with that type of question and also, for instance, the question of whether violent responses to certain grave evils (i.e. abortion) would be morally justified.


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    Re: Traditional Catholic teaching on torture?
    « Reply #47 on: November 04, 2020, 12:13:56 PM »
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  • If they hand the Presidency to Biden, then I would consider him illegitimate.  I also considered Obama illegitimate, since he was not a natural born citizen.  Alan Keyes called him the "Kenyan Usurper".  We can call Biden the Pedo Usurper or Senile Usurper.

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    Re: Traditional Catholic teaching on torture?
    « Reply #48 on: November 04, 2020, 12:23:38 PM »
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  • If they hand the Presidency to Biden, then I would consider him illegitimate.  I also considered Obama illegitimate, since he was not a natural born citizen.  Alan Keyes called him the "Kenyan Usurper".  We can call Biden the Pedo Usurper or Senile Usurper.
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    Re: Traditional Catholic teaching on torture?
    « Reply #49 on: November 04, 2020, 12:25:58 PM »
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  • If they hand the Presidency to Biden, then I would consider him illegitimate.  I also considered Obama illegitimate, since he was not a natural born citizen.  Alan Keyes called him the "Kenyan Usurper".  We can call Biden the Pedo Usurper or Senile Usurper.
    Obama was a natural born citizen.  All the nonsense with his birth certificate was due to the fact that he is actually the son of Frank Davis a notorious communist.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Marshall_Davis
    You can google for images of Davis' children.  His children by another woman look like twins of Obama.  Obama's mother was close to Davis.  So she had an affair with him and Obama was the result.  Obama himself wrote in his autobiography how he was close to Davis.  To legitimize Obama she lied and said Obama sr was the father.


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    Re: Traditional Catholic teaching on torture?
    « Reply #50 on: November 04, 2020, 06:28:40 PM »
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  • Obama was a natural born citizen.  All the nonsense with his birth certificate was due to the fact that he is actually the son of Frank Davis a notorious communist.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Marshall_Davis
    You can google for images of Davis' children.  His children by another woman look like twins of Obama.  Obama's mother was close to Davis.  So she had an affair with him and Obama was the result.  Obama himself wrote in his autobiography how he was close to Davis.  To legitimize Obama she lied and said Obama sr was the father.
    Thanks Clemens Maria.  You nailed it.  I was going to put this out, but you already did so.  Good job!  Also, Obama looks much more like Davis than he does to the alleged Kenyan father.

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    Re: Traditional Catholic teaching on torture?
    « Reply #51 on: November 04, 2020, 06:31:38 PM »
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  • Just wanted to add one more item.  Aquinas clearly approves the state's authority to mutilate.  If the state can take a person's life it can certainly take his hand.


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    Re: Traditional Catholic teaching on torture?
    « Reply #52 on: November 04, 2020, 06:41:23 PM »
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  • Forget about torture.

    I want to know the Catholic doctrine on ιnѕυrrєcтισn, rebellion, guerilla warfare, overthrowing a tyrant, etc.

    Asking for a friend. Purely hypothetical. Totally unrelated to the election results.


    cf: Matt. 26:5Matt2 and Revelation 13:10.  In terms of the latter verse we may wish to consider going off to the detention camps (i.e., captivity) rather than dispatching a few misguided souls by well guided lead into a fiery inferno for all eternity.  (I'm referring here to government agents showing up on our doorstep with orders that we take the vaccine or be hauled off to detention.)  That said, let the Holy Ghost be our guide.  It may be that His will would have us pump some lead into the vermin before we are taken out ourselves. I am just not operating under any illusion that there will be any strong uprising of Christians in the neo-pagan U.S. which will overthrow the SS.  I believe the sea change will not come about until the Consecration of Russia is carried out.  For the time being I figure that our prayers and sufferings in the detention camps may be much more efficacious for our own eternal salvation and for the souls of those persecuting us than a show of arms in blasting them away at our doorstep.

    (The Cristeros carried out their battle in a Catholic country run by a ʝʊdɛօ-Masonic government.  The U.S. is a largely ʝʊdɛօ-Protestant country -with most of the baptized Catholics living more as defacto Protestants than true Catholics -- run by a ʝʊdɛօ-Masonic-Satanic Deep State.)