Author Topic: Traditio (Read 15239 times)

Thorn · « **on:** October 19, 2010, 08:54:43 PM »

Does anyone know who the Fathers are that write Traditio?
I understand that it was started by Fr. Morrison of the Bay Area. Then it just said "Father Replies" Now it says FatherS.
No one was ever introduced that I know of, were they?
I would very much like to know who these other Fathers are. How many are there? How can I find out? Thanks. Any information would be much appreciated.

Thursday · « **Reply #1 on:** October 19, 2010, 10:56:27 PM »

I think "the fathers" is used for legal reasons.

Alexandria · « **Reply #2 on:** October 20, 2010, 11:49:40 AM »

I do not think that anyone knows for certain. I have a suspicion who one is but I won't say because I am not certain.

Aside from the identity of the "Fathers", I would take what they write with a grain of salt and verify everything they say. I have caught them in more than one error; one story that they reported was later found to be the opposite of what they wrote and they never printed a retraction. They have a tendency to exaggerate...as if things aren't bad enough. Who needs to embellish stories?

Matthew · « **Reply #3 on:** October 20, 2010, 02:17:24 PM »

Their veracity has been impugned on more than one occasion -- in other words, they have problems with the truth.

They claim that the SSPX has already made a deal with Rome, and is therefore as suspect as any Indult or Motu "Extraordinary Form" Mass.
Traditio makes the wild claim that hybrid Novus Ordo/Tridentine Masses are used in the SSPX.

Needless to say, it's a complete crock of BS. No deal has been made between the SSPX and Rome. Fact. It is not open for debate. The objective truth can be found out at SSPX.org or Vatican.va.

I understand that many (including myself) worry about the future of the SSPX, and that some are critical of Bishop Fellay, etc. but it's simply NOT TRUE that a deal has been made in the past. The SSPX has not been regularized. As of October 2010, only 1962 Tridentine Masses are said at 100% of SSPX chapels and Mass centers.

SOMEONE at Traditio has a serious problem with the truth. May God have mercy on whoever it is.

When I catch "Catholics" engaging in such disinformation campaigns, it forces me to question their motives and agenda.

Matthew

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #4 on:** October 20, 2010, 02:20:48 PM »

Quote from: Matthew

Their veracity has been impugned on more than one occasion -- in other words, they have problems with the truth.

They claim that the SSPX has already made a deal with Rome, and is therefore as suspect as any Indult or Motu "Extraordinary Form" Mass.
Traditio makes the wild claim that hybrid Novus Ordo/Tridentine Masses are used in the SSPX.

Needless to say, it's a complete crock of BS. No deal has been made between the SSPX and Rome. You can worry about the future of the SSPX, you can criticize Bishop Fellay, etc. but it's simply NOT TRUE that a deal has been made in the past. The SSPX has not been regularized. As of October 2010, only 1962 Tridentine Masses are said at 100% of SSPX chapels and Mass centers.

SOMEONE at Traditio has a serious problem with the truth. May God have mercy on whoever it is.

When I catch "Catholics" engaging in such disinformation campaigns, it forces me to question their motives and agenda.

Matthew

I completely agree.

God Bless.

Thorn · « **Reply #5 on:** October 20, 2010, 03:19:29 PM »

Thursday, I understood that Fr. M was getting old and so got some younger priests to help with Traditio & not for legal reasons.
I find it odd that he never introduced these priests.
I, too, have a very strong feeling who at least one of the priests is & it's not a pretty picture.
I have over the years asked them a few questions on traditional things and gotten vague answers and had a sneaking suspicion that Fr. M was friends with said priest & so didn't really want to answer my question since it concerned this priest. Just recently I wrote Traditio about something that I'd like them to address since I was seeing it in many trad chapels be they SPPX, sede or independent, & if it was seen on Traditio, read by trads of all stripes, then maybe something would be done. The response was absolutely devilish so that now I'm convinced that this priest is one of the priests who helps answer questions there. I'm not alone in seeing problems with this priest.

Classiccom · « **Reply #6 on:** October 20, 2010, 04:00:36 PM »

Why would 1962 changes to the Mass be required ?

I like Traditio - many times over the edge but 99 per cent more honest than anything else out there in the Catholic world. Maybe a few people here have legitimate beefs and constitute the other one percent. Hooray for you guys.

Alexandria · « **Reply #7 on:** October 20, 2010, 04:03:46 PM »

That means I am in the minority class. Maybe I can tell our government this and they will treat us better and give us more percs. :wink:

Thursday · « **Reply #8 on:** October 20, 2010, 04:46:51 PM »

Quote from: Matthew

Their veracity has been impugned on more than one occasion -- in other words, they have problems with the truth.

They claim that the SSPX has already made a deal with Rome, and is therefore as suspect as any Indult or Motu "Extraordinary Form" Mass.
Traditio makes the wild claim that hybrid Novus Ordo/Tridentine Masses are used in the SSPX.

Needless to say, it's a complete crock of BS. No deal has been made between the SSPX and Rome. Fact. It is not open for debate. The objective truth can be found out at SSPX.org or Vatican.va.

I understand that many (including myself) worry about the future of the SSPX, and that some are critical of Bishop Fellay, etc. but it's simply NOT TRUE that a deal has been made in the past. The SSPX has not been regularized. As of October 2010, only 1962 Tridentine Masses are said at 100% of SSPX chapels and Mass centers.

SOMEONE at Traditio has a serious problem with the truth. May God have mercy on whoever it is.

When I catch "Catholics" engaging in such disinformation campaigns, it forces me to question their motives and agenda.

Matthew

Thursday · « **Reply #9 on:** October 20, 2010, 05:02:42 PM »

Bp Fellay also has a problem with spreading rumours, like the one that Pope says the TLM privately.

Plus, his Rosary crusade to have the non-excommunications lifted, his treatment of Bp Williamson and the plain fact that he is negotiating with the destroyers is worthy of criticism.

Who else would do it but for traditio. They are not perfect but better than most alternatives.

Thursday · « **Reply #10 on:** October 20, 2010, 05:45:27 PM »

I'd like to add that Fr. Morrison has been the subject of numerous smear campaigns. Most notably that he was not properly ordained.

I've heard many from the SSPX casually making these claims against him.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #11 on:** October 20, 2010, 07:46:30 PM »

Quote from: Thursday

Bp Fellay also has a problem with spreading rumours, like the one that Pope says the TLM privately.

Plus, his Rosary crusade to have the non-excommunications lifted, his treatment of Bp Williamson and the plain fact that he is negotiating with the destroyers is worthy of criticism.

Who else would do it but for traditio. They are not perfect but better than most alternatives.

He's not negotiating with them. Just because you read a source does not mean it's true.

Thursday · « **Reply #12 on:** October 21, 2010, 01:49:59 AM »

Quote from: SpiritusSanctus

Quote from: Thursday
Bp Fellay also has a problem with spreading rumours, like the one that Pope says the TLM privately.

Plus, his Rosary crusade to have the non-excommunications lifted, his treatment of Bp Williamson and the plain fact that he is negotiating with the destroyers is worthy of criticism.

Who else would do it but for traditio. They are not perfect but better than most alternatives.

He's not negotiating with them. Just because you read a source does not mean it's true.

Doesn't mean it's not true either. In fact, I hope it isn't true but fear that it is. Why are they meeting with the Vatican if not to negotiate, does Fellay think he's going to get them to abandon Vatiocan II and the Novus Ordo?

Belloc · « **Reply #13 on:** October 21, 2010, 08:00:08 AM »

Quote from: SpiritusSanctus

Quote from: Matthew
Their veracity has been impugned on more than one occasion -- in other words, they have problems with the truth.

They claim that the SSPX has already made a deal with Rome, and is therefore as suspect as any Indult or Motu "Extraordinary Form" Mass.
Traditio makes the wild claim that hybrid Novus Ordo/Tridentine Masses are used in the SSPX.

Needless to say, it's a complete crock of BS. No deal has been made between the SSPX and Rome. You can worry about the future of the SSPX, you can criticize Bishop Fellay, etc. but it's simply NOT TRUE that a deal has been made in the past. The SSPX has not been regularized. As of October 2010, only 1962 Tridentine Masses are said at 100% of SSPX chapels and Mass centers.

SOMEONE at Traditio has a serious problem with the truth. May God have mercy on whoever it is.

When I catch "Catholics" engaging in such disinformation campaigns, it forces me to question their motives and agenda.

Matthew

I completely agree.

God Bless.

True, me thinks a lot of disinfo out there and putting words in others mouths....

MyrnaM · « **Reply #14 on:** October 21, 2010, 08:13:02 AM »

I haven't visited Traditio in years.... I am tired of reading anywhere about what the novus ordo is or isn't doing. They are not the Church so as far as I am concerned they are a comedy, all of them especially B16 who allows the comedy, which is really a slap in the face to God.

I enjoy coming here mainly to read different opinions, and sometime good advice, education of true Catholicism. I also don't trust the modern writers but perfer the older books, like radio replies. Anyone here have that set.