Author Topic: Tolerance? (Read 942 times)

poche · « **on:** May 28, 2013, 04:20:27 AM »

The Vatican Secretariat of State issued a tweet on Monday: “Intolerance against Christians, especially in the name of ‘tolerance’, should be condemned publicly.”
The tweet referenced a Statement of the Holy See delivered by Bishop Mario Toso, SDB, at the High Level Conference on Tolerance and Non-discrimination (including Human Rights Youth Education), which took place May 21-22 in Tirana, Albania.
The Conference was held under the auspices of the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE).

http://www.news.va/en/news/intolerance-in-the-name-of-tolerance-should-be-con

Charlemagne · « **Reply #1 on:** May 28, 2013, 08:56:34 AM »

Did he mention anything about intolerance by members of the Conciliar Church against those who adhere to the True Faith? Your threads are boring, poche. Fish Kill is calling.

Capt McQuigg · « **Reply #2 on:** May 28, 2013, 10:28:14 AM »

Poche should pace himself. If he wants to come in and post pro-Concilliar information than don't post four or five differents posts per day.

Why Poche thinks this particular post is good is a mystery to me.

Novus Weirdo · « **Reply #3 on:** May 28, 2013, 04:20:38 PM »

The forum is 'General Discussion.'

I think Poche, possibly due to naivete, is just posting things for that purpose: a general discussion. Now, his subject matter may be questionable, sure, but he's not shown himself to be an Anthony Malleus or one of those mutants from IA. I think after a while, Poche will tire of banging his head against a wall figuring out why he's being addressed as he is and just quit, OR he'll adjust himself accordingly. Time will tell and we should wait and see.

Remember what St Paul had to go through with Corinthians... His patience and tolerance ought to be emulated.

Sigismund · « **Reply #4 on:** May 28, 2013, 04:45:33 PM »

People seem to be assuming that he agrees with the content of every news story he posts. This is not necessarily the case. I have posted stories about things I find appalling becasue I think people will want to know about them. That hardly means that i agree with them.

Capt McQuigg · « **Reply #5 on:** May 28, 2013, 04:59:03 PM »

Quote from: Sigismund

People seem to be assuming that he agrees with the content of every news story he posts. This is not necessarily the case. I have posted stories about things I find appalling becasue I think people will want to know about them. That hardly means that i agree with them.

Your posts are significantly more refined and much better written than Poche's. No one here accuses you of being a troll even if they disagree with you on an occasional issue.

MyrnaM · « **Reply #6 on:** May 28, 2013, 06:20:58 PM »

Has anyone tried to explain to the offender that there is a big difference between the novus ordo and Traditional Catholicism, it is exactly like posting Protestant beliefs on a Catholic forum. Like mixing oil and water.

He/she is probably confused because he/she thinks of the novus ordo as being Catholic, and since the title of this forum is CathInfo. He doesn't realize that novus ordo left the Catholic faith.

Proof of these two different beliefs systems is right here, reading what is posted by him, and the raised eyebrows from CathInfo members.

Sigismund · « **Reply #7 on:** May 28, 2013, 06:55:43 PM »

Quote from: Capt McQuigg

Quote from: Sigismund
People seem to be assuming that he agrees with the content of every news story he posts. This is not necessarily the case. I have posted stories about things I find appalling becasue I think people will want to know about them. That hardly means that i agree with them.

Your posts are significantly more refined and much better written than Poche's. No one here accuses you of being a troll even if they disagree with you on an occasional issue.

Thank you, but i don't see how Poche is a troll. As Myra points out above. Maybe a little charity is in order.

Napoli · « **Reply #8 on:** May 28, 2013, 07:24:08 PM »

There is a big difference between Sigusmund and Poche. I respect one and not the other, based on posts, of course.

Maizar · « **Reply #9 on:** May 28, 2013, 08:30:36 PM »

Quote from: Sigismund

Quote from: Capt McQuigg
Quote from: Sigismund
People seem to be assuming that he agrees with the content of every news story he posts. This is not necessarily the case. I have posted stories about things I find appalling becasue I think people will want to know about them. That hardly means that i agree with them.

Your posts are significantly more refined and much better written than Poche's. No one here accuses you of being a troll even if they disagree with you on an occasional issue.

Thank you, but i don't see how Poche is a troll. As Myra points out above. Maybe a little charity is in order.

I read the article linked by Poche, and I can see why he would post this. It is relevant to Traditional Catholics not because of its teaching value - we know full well the doctrinal problem on religious liberty - but because it shows that religious tolerance towards Christians does not come from giving away the Faith, by diluting and abrogating basic tenets. It's even more ironic that the article mentions the 1700th anniversary of the Edict of Milan, which itself was not brought about by promoting lukewarmness but by the blood of martyrs for their steadfast adherence to the Faith:

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This year we celebrate 1700 years of the Edict of Milan, issued in 313 A .D. by Emperor Constantine, one of the most important docuмents in history related to freedom of religion. With this decree the persecution of Christians finally ended, Christianity was legalized and religious freedom was granted and guaranteed for all throughout the Roman Empire.

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The first is intolerance against Christian speech. In recent years there has been a significant increase in incidents involving Christians who have been arrested and even prosecuted, for speaking on Christian issues. Religious leaders are threatened with police action after preaching about sinful behaviour and some are even sentenced to prison for preaching on the biblical teaching against sɛҳuąƖ immorality. Even private conversations between citizens, including expression of opinions on social network, can become the grounds of a criminal complaint, or at least intolerance, in many European countries.

What a poignant example of blow-back!

But to vote the post down just because it links to something coming from the Vatican is strange. I can't see how this is trolling.