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To those from Kreuz.net - Welcome!
« on: December 16, 2010, 04:14:30 PM »
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  • There seems to be a huge number of people visiting today from Kreuz.net.
    From SEVERAL articles -- including, but not limited to, this one:

    http://www.kreuz.net/article.12325.html

    Strange thing is, I can't find a single link to CathInfo.com on that page.

    Anyone have any ideas?

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    Offline Ethelred

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    « Reply #1 on: December 16, 2010, 05:02:59 PM »
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  • Yes, there's been some user comments linking to William of Norwich' Krah-Gate on Cathinfo. So Kreuz.net readers who did read these comments in time found their way to the Cathinfo topic.

    However, as said earlier, the Kreuz.net administrators delete any such comment as soon as they see them. Google's cache still have them.
    This deleting is strange, because linking to the Krah-Gate revelations do not go against any rule of Kreuz.net .

    Formally this Vatican II catholic website Kreuz.net has got no connection with Krah and "his Jєωιѕн friends". The quotation comes from an article on Ignis Ardens which claims to quote SSPX Father François Laisney.
    Materially it obviously has. Krah's Jєωιѕн friends control most of the German zone anyway.
    That's why Krah-Gate officially doesn't exist in the German zone. Poor Germans: they've got the Zionist Krah and mustn't read any revelations about him.

    So, I'd like to invite any truth seeker with a little knowledge in German or in Online translators to register on http://www.kreuz.net and post some nice comments linking to the Krah-Gate topics on Cathinfo, which is here: http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/Krah-chose-Williamsons-lawyer
    Help the poor German zone people to overcome the German typical censorship for at least some minutes. I've already invited some friends and hopefully they'll invite more, so that more German zone readers may read Cathinfo. :-)

    Thank you.

    God bless Bishop Williamson!


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    « Reply #2 on: December 16, 2010, 07:29:33 PM »
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  • Quote from: Ethelred
    Yes, there's been some user comments linking to William of Norwich' Krah-Gate on Cathinfo. So Kreuz.net readers who did read these comments in time found their way to the Cathinfo topic.

    However, as said earlier, the Kreuz.net administrators delete any such comment as soon as they see them. Google's cache still have them.
    This deleting is strange, because linking to the Krah-Gate revelations do not go against any rule of Kreuz.net .

    Formally this Vatican II catholic website Kreuz.net has got no connection with Krah and "his Jєωιѕн friends". The quotation comes from an article on Ignis Ardens which claims to quote SSPX Father François Laisney.
    Materially it obviously has. Krah's Jєωιѕн friends control most of the German zone anyway.
    That's why Krah-Gate officially doesn't exist in the German zone. Poor Germans: they've got the Zionist Krah and mustn't read any revelations about him.

    So, I'd like to invite any truth seeker with a little knowledge in German or in Online translators to register on http://www.kreuz.net and post some nice comments linking to the Krah-Gate topics on Cathinfo, which is here: http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/Krah-chose-Williamsons-lawyer
    Help the poor German zone people to overcome the German typical censorship for at least some minutes. I've already invited some friends and hopefully they'll invite more, so that more German zone readers may read Cathinfo. :-)

    Thank you.

    God bless Bishop Williamson!


    Thanks Ethel!
    You are a Godsend, and both you and Hollingsworth are probably the most valuable posters on this site!
     How would any of us get the picture of whats going on in Europe without both of you?  
    I hope more Europeans will join!
    Cathinfo is a wonderful site!  Trad Catholics  can all converse.......where else today does that happen without censorship?   :applause: :rahrah:

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    « Reply #3 on: December 18, 2010, 10:43:27 AM »
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  • Quote from: Johannes Nepomuk
    Dear catholic friends,

    unfortunately, mine does not feel well in english. But I hope that you understand me a little bit. I read your forum for a lang time with the help of an automatic translator on the Internet. Many thanks for many good words here.

    I come from Germany. Eachone who thinks that my country is a democratic country, does not know the truth. In many things it is forbidden to pronounce the truth. If you say something against Islam, you are a nαzι. But even if you defends the real Catholic values, you are a nαzι. The fact that eachone may not have the slightest doubt in the h0Ɩ0cαųst, bishop Williamson had to experience. The law says exactly what you must believe.

    In Germany you can get problems if you go to the holy mass at the SSPX, which ist called here FSSPX. For example, you can get problems with the employer, because many people are saying: "If you go to the FSSPX, you are a nαzι!"

    The German politicians are working against the German people. Whatever, the people are so blind, that they do not notice it. In this country it goes well to you if you are for Islam, for abortion and before all things against the true holy Catholic church.

    Please, excuse my bad knowledge of english. I would like to say something else to the betrayal within the SSPX.  But it is difficultly for me to do it in english. I write it in german. Maybe somebody can translate it for you.

    Die SSPX ist seit vielen Jahren von Feinden der heiligen Mutter Kirche unterwandert. So wie es vor vielen Jahrzehnten Rom erging, so ergeht es nun der SSPX. Der Rauch Satans ist in diese eingedrungen. Satan wird nicht eher ruhen, bis er dieses von Erzbischof Lefebvre errichtete Bollwerk zerstört hat. Einzig dieses ist es noch, welches bis heute verhindern konnte, daß die Kirche Christi untergeht. Wir Katholiken wissen, daß die Hölle sie nicht wird überwinden können. Den Verrätern Fellay, Pfluger, Schmidberger usw. hat die göttliche Vorsehung einen großen Mann entgegengesetzt. Auch die Verstärkung der Verräter durch den Handlanger der Synagoge Satans Maximilian Krah wird Satan nicht zum Ziele führen. Der teuflische Plan wird nicht aufgehen. Bischof Williamson wird das Werk des Erzbischofs retten, unterstützt von den wenn auch nur wenigen noch guten Patres der SSPX. Wir werden in absehbarer Zeit in den Untergrund gehen müssen, vergleichbar mit den ersten Christen in den Katakomben. Wir werden verfolgt, ja vielleicht gar getötet werden. Diese Aussichten dürfen uns nicht ängstigen, denn Gott läßt uns nicht alleine.
    Vertrauen wir auf Ihn!
    Vertrauen wir auf die Fürsprache der allerheiligsten Jungfrau Maria!
    Vertrauen wir uns der Hilfe und Fürbitte der Engel und Heiligen an!

    Christus vincit - Christus regnat - Christus imperat





    Welcome!

    Here's the translation from google:


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    The SSPX has been infiltrated for years by enemies of Holy Mother Church. Just as happened to Rome many decades ago, so now it is with the SSPX. The smoke of Satan has entered into it. Satan will not rest until he has destroyed this fortress built by Archbishop Lefebvre. Only this, it is still, which could prevent up to now that the Church of Christ sets. We Catholics know that hell will not overcome. The traitors Fellay, Pfluger, Schmidberger has so opposed to the divine providence of a great man. The strengthening of the traitor by the henchmen of the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan Maximilian Krah Satan will not lead to the goal. The diabolical plan will not work. Bishop Williamson is going to save the work of the Archbishop, assisted by even if only a few more good fathers of the SSPX. We will have to go in the near future into the ground, much like the first Christians in the catacombs. We will be tracked, perhaps even killed. This outlook should not frighten us, because God will not let us alone.
    Let us trust in Him!
    We entrust to the intercession of the Blessed Virgin Mary!
    Trust us the help and intercession of angels and saints!

    Christ vincit - Regnat Christ - Christ imperat


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    « Reply #4 on: December 18, 2010, 11:18:43 AM »
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  • Salve Johannes Nepomuk!

    Thanks a lot, and you hit the nail on the head.

    Vergelt's Gott dafür! Genau so ist.

    Heiligmäßiger Marcel Lefebvre, bitte für uns!
    Heiliger Papst Piust X., bitte für uns!

    Christus vincit - Christus regnat - Christus imperat!


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    « Reply #5 on: December 18, 2010, 11:24:57 AM »
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  • Can we get some specifics (examples) on those accusations?

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    « Reply #6 on: December 18, 2010, 12:58:45 PM »
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  • Long on accusations, short on proof?  Plenty of innuendo, but scarce on rational demonstration?  There is no doubt that the SSPX is the object of hatred and sabotage, but positing such without convincing facts is mere wishful thinking at this point.  To point out problems in the SSPX is to merely note human weakness present in all orders of the Church from its very beginning.  The resolution will also be spiritual, not by means of sensational political diatribe.  So unless you have something over and above common faults of priests interpreted even in the light of charity, it won't be very helpful to make sweeping personal accusations of treason.  

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    « Reply #7 on: December 18, 2010, 03:29:29 PM »
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  • http://cathinfo-warning-pornography!/Ignis_Ardens/index.php?showtopic=6405

    Quote from: Wessex
    (@ Dec 17 2010, 10:28 AM)
    Be advised that the bishop [Williamson] views the actions of Menzingen as treachery and treachery which is getting worse. His very words.


    Quote from: Wessex
    (@ Dec 18 2010, 04:42 PM)
    Unless the bishop is in the habit of saying different things to different people, you must accept his opinion of Menzigen


    Well, I accept this opinion of His Lordship Bishop Williamson. :-)



    But back on topic!

    There's now a very short summary of the Krah-Gate in German language:
    http://krahgate.blogspot.com


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    « Reply #8 on: December 18, 2010, 04:01:22 PM »
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  • Citing "Wessex" doesn't fulfill your moral obligations.

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    « Reply #9 on: December 18, 2010, 04:27:41 PM »
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  • Quote from: Matthew
    There seems to be a huge number of people visiting today from Kreuz.net.
    From SEVERAL articles -- including, but not limited to, this one:

    http://www.kreuz.net/article.12325.html

    Strange thing is, I can't find a single link to CathInfo.com on that page.


    Ignis Ardens enjoyed a similar upsurge that day as well. Again, I couldn't find a link. As Ethelred suggests, it must have been deleted from Kreuznet.

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    « Reply #10 on: December 18, 2010, 05:02:19 PM »
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  • Hi Johannes!

    I had a play-group friend a few years ago, who had just moved from Germany to the U.S.

    She explained the situation in Germany very similar to what you have.  I could only conclude that she had lived under nαzι-ism, but under a different name.

    Others have shared similar descriptions of life in Germany, and they were not even Catholic, and showed no malice toward their country.  

    Thank you so much for joining us and offering your point of view.


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