Oh, I don't run them off. They go to an "indult mass." Since I go to an independent chapel, I only see these people in public places. They're hard to miss with their saccharin sweetness.
LOL at the last line.
I have become friendly with "Alex" ( not her real name ) from this site, although she doesn't post much anymore -- we talk usually every day. Yesterday we had a big fight and this thread applies, so I want to get some opinions.
The fight began while we were discussing her NO friend who she talks about in glowing terms, who spends 16 hours in front of the Blessed Sacrament ( if Christ is really confected in an American NO, which I'm not sure about ) and is a model of charity, more charitable than those mean, nasty trads, who are under a perpetual black cloud, etc. Yet she admits to being repulsed by him because of his enthusiasm for the NO. He is not one of those who suffers through NO Masses because he believes the hierarchy is legitimate and that he must obey. No. He enthusiastically attends NO Masses, and not just that -- he has a particular fondness for
healing Masses.
After listening to one too many of Alex's soaring songs of praise for this person's charity, she put the cherry on top by saying that she thinks JPII was just "misguided." Then, unfortunately, I snapped and went into a volcanic tirade.
The gist of the tirade was this: To me, what is happening is that many are leaving the Church or "Church" because they associate it with these weird New Age-y shiny-happy Kumbaya-singing neo-Caths, not to mention the homo "clergy." Alex says her friend isn't like that and isn't New Agey. Sorry, the very term "healing Mass" is beyond New Agey.
The people who have entered the "Church" or remain in the "Church" post-VII tend to, generally speaking, have something tweaked in their spirit. I have met some Novus Ordo types and I cannot recognize them as Catholic. They are just alien. I'm sure everyone on this site knows what I mean. They say they are Catholic but they don't seem to have any clue about the faith nor do they want to know about it, and they often are more liberal than the anti-Popes themselves. My next-door neighbor is pro-abortion yet she also goes to visit the "Blessed Sacrament." They may possess a neighborly spirit, they may go out of their way to help others, but so do some Prots, so do some pagans. Are they really Catholic? Granted, without charity we are nothing, but the faith has to be solid FIRST, otherwise they're working in a vacuum.
The more this type of person comes INTO the "Church," the more it drives the once-Catholic population OUT, and they slip into atheism or agnosticism or Protestantism or paganism or just confusion. Yes, that is their fault, for being lukewarm and not separating the Church from the people within it, for not studying the crisis. Nevertheless, the good or at least lukewarm are filtering out, and a strange new alien breed is taking over, a new breed that will repulse all potential Catholics. When I speak of "potential Catholics" I speak of the whole world. It is to this "new breed" that Alex's friend belongs, with his peppy love of the healing Mass, which is probably neither healing nor a Mass...
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