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TIME: Those darned white racists!
« on: July 07, 2012, 12:01:00 PM »
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  • Found this delightful little article about race relations.  And since everyone and their mother says there ought to be a discussion about race in this country, I figured it was worth a post.

    As I read it, I cannot help but recall how all other races are allowed to have enormous grand racial supremacy meetings--but not those whites!

    I think that what always catches my attention with these articles is the double standard, more than anything.  Farakhan is tolerated, but not southern white rednecks.  And I am also amused at the link in the article to another discussion as to whether or not racism is a mental disease.

    Thank you Time Magazine.  Like most major media, yer as divisive as ever: http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/07/06/whites-only-pastor-conference-has-west-alabama-residents-upset/?iid=nf-article-mostpop1

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    Whites Only Pastor Conference Has West Alabama Residents Upset

    Why hosting a whites only pastor conference did not fly with the people of Winfield, Alabama.
    By Kharunya Paramaguru | July 6, 2012 | 7

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    Members of the Ku Klux Klan (KKK) participate in a cross lighting ceremony at a Klansman's home in Warrenville, South Carolina October 23, 2010. KKK Imperial Wizard Duwayne Johnson said it was the first public cross lighting in 50 years.

    The good folk of Winfield, Ala. have been very upset by the news of an annual pastors conference taking place near their town. Not because of any animosity towards religious gatherings, but rather to the stipulation that only white Christians are invited.

    (MORE: ACLU to Represent Ku Klux Klan in Adopt-a-Highway Bid)
    Tyler Cantrell, the manager of Norris Music in downtown Winfield, discovered a flier for the conference earlier this week. “It was put up throughout the town in the middle of the night. When everyone was asleep and without the permission of the business owner(s),” he told WBRC news.


    Despite the fact that the three-day conference in neighboring Lamar County was reportedly festooned with confederate flags and banners bearing Ku Klux Klan and white-supremacist slogans, and that it was scheduled to end July 6th with a “Sacred Christian Cross Lighting Ceremony” — not unlike the kind performed by the Klan –organizers denied that his organization was a hate group.  “The white race is God’s chosen people,” William C. Collier, the organizer of the event, told WBRC. “We don’t have the facilities to accommodate other people. We haven’t got any invitations to black, Muslim events. Of course we are not invited to Jєωιѕн events and stuff.”

    The Christian Identity Ministries, which is running the event along with the Church of God’s Chosen, also claims on its website that the “Europeans and their descendants are the chosen people of God.” Ministry founder Mel Lewis spoke with a reporter from WAFF TV and claimed that the town’s mayor was violating their right to free speech and religious freedom.

    “We are not breaking any laws. We’re not violating any ordinances. We’re bringing the Word of God to people who want it, obviously, or they wouldn’t be here,” said Lewis.

    (MORE: Is Racism an Illness?)

    However the town’s Mayor, Wayne Silas, sees it differently. He told WBRC that “Business people are upset. The city is upset. The city of Winfield does not condone this.”



    Read more: http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/07/06/whites-only-pastor-conference-has-west-alabama-residents-upset/?iid=nf-article-mostpop1#ixzz1zxN5gLiU
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    TIME: Those darned white racists!
    « Reply #1 on: July 07, 2012, 12:13:32 PM »
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  • Well not that I support the KKK but you know it seems if white Americans try to gather to discuss their heritage our cultural elites will automatically it evil.


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    « Reply #2 on: July 07, 2012, 01:02:05 PM »
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  • There is no such thing as 'racism'.
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'

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    « Reply #3 on: July 07, 2012, 01:10:48 PM »
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  • Quote from: Traditional Guy 20
    Well not that I support the KKK but you know it seems if white Americans try to gather to discuss their heritage our cultural elites will automatically it evil.


    That is, in part, because there is no white heritage specifically. There are Italian, German, Irish, Greek, Hungarian and Polish festivals in the city I live in, and no one is upset by that.  Celebrating specific ethnic identities has never, in my experience, been about denigrating others.  Events that say "Whites Only" are.  

    And yes, before anyone asks, I would object to a "Blacks Only" event.  The only people I know of who do this belong to the Nation of Islam.  They are as racist as it is possible to be.
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    « Reply #4 on: July 07, 2012, 01:11:22 PM »
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    There is no such thing as 'racism'.


    Please shut up.
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    TIME: Those darned white racists!
    « Reply #5 on: July 07, 2012, 01:19:43 PM »
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    There is no such thing as 'racism'.


    Please shut up.


    No such thing as 'racism.'  I find that an interesting statement.  I've only heard it a few times before.

    What do you mean?  How can there be no such thing as racism?
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    « Reply #6 on: July 07, 2012, 02:38:16 PM »
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    Well not that I support the KKK but you know it seems if white Americans try to gather to discuss their heritage our cultural elites will automatically it evil.


    That is, in part, because there is no white heritage specifically. There are Italian, German, Irish, Greek, Hungarian and Polish festivals in the city I live in, and no one is upset by that.  Celebrating specific ethnic identities has never, in my experience, been about denigrating others.  Events that say "Whites Only" are.  

    And yes, before anyone asks, I would object to a "Blacks Only" event.  The only people I know of who do this belong to the Nation of Islam.  They are as racist as it is possible to be.


    You are the problem sir, you with your liberal beliefs that race does not matter. How does a "Whites Only" event seem to be racist to you? Unlike you I don't have any problem with other races celebrating their heritage but I do object that whites cannot do it.

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    « Reply #7 on: July 07, 2012, 02:51:40 PM »
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    Well not that I support the KKK but you know it seems if white Americans try to gather to discuss their heritage our cultural elites will automatically it evil.


    That is, in part, because there is no white heritage specifically. There are Italian, German, Irish, Greek, Hungarian and Polish festivals in the city I live in, and no one is upset by that.  Celebrating specific ethnic identities has never, in my experience, been about denigrating others.  Events that say "Whites Only" are.  

    And yes, before anyone asks, I would object to a "Blacks Only" event.  The only people I know of who do this belong to the Nation of Islam.  They are as racist as it is possible to be.



    Public Schools are indoctrinated, for an entire MONTH, with Black History Month.

    (Despite the fact that Africa has contributed next to nothing in the world. There was NO Wheel, 2 story building or alphabet at the arrival of 1st Europeans to the Dark Continent ie Interior Africa.  No word for Love either.
    Africa hasnt changed much either.)

    Hispanics have their Latino History Month (Sept-Oct)
    AIDs Awareness Month (Jan)
    Jєωιѕн American Heritae MOnth (June)
    Jєωs Also Lie to students year round from K-12, indoctrinate and  tell them that 6 milion died in a 2 car Garage sized, Vented room, by use of Bug spray in 18mo, and the fact that they were the Communists Hitler warred against.



    Other than the Celtic Fest or October Fest (DInking/Eating) there isnt much White Pride type events...or none.

    And yes indeed, there IS Racism.  We see it in Prison, in Schools and in the Public.
    There are Over 1,000,000 Interracial Crimes in America annually and 90% are Black ON White.  
    This is indeed an epidemic and silent Race War.

    Jєωs work tirelessly to lessen, diminish and mitigate/cheapen White Accomplishments and building of Our Culture.


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    « Reply #8 on: July 07, 2012, 02:55:52 PM »
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  • Blacks are 139 times more likely to rob a white person than the other way around and blacks are 100 times more likely to rape a white woman than the reverse. Knowing Sigismund however he'll probably blame it on "social reasons."  :rolleyes:

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    « Reply #9 on: July 07, 2012, 03:14:53 PM »
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  • Quote from: Traditional Guy 20
    Blacks are 139 times more likely to rob a white person than the other way around and blacks are 100 times more likely to rape a white woman than the reverse. Knowing Sigismund however he'll probably blame it on "social reasons."  :rolleyes:


    According to the US Dept. of Justice, there were 37,000 Black ON White Rapes last year.
    There were 0 reported White ON Black Rapes.
    This is indeed another epidemic.


    7% of the US Population (Black Males from 15-30) are committing 65% of all Violent crime in America.

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    « Reply #10 on: July 07, 2012, 04:08:51 PM »
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  • Yes, white children immediately upon entering the government schools are taught white self loathing; that the white race is inherently oppressive and that every evil ever perpetrated in the history of the world is somehow related to white oppression.

    On the other hand if blacks or other minorities have negative feelings toward white people it is justified because of the racism of white people, even if they themselves have not been subjected to it, it is justified by past racism of whites against their ancestors or other members of their race, thus reparations are demanded by people who have never been a slave from people who have never owned a slave.

    In the same way this is why black on white crime is never classified as a “hate crime.” The politically correct and proper definition of a “hate crime” is when the victim is a minority or a member of a “protected” class and the perpetrator is white.  

    This is just an observation, the reality of the world that we live in today.


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  • I see nothing inherently evil about public education itself (unlike some on here I went through public schools my whole life) but there is something wrong with what the schools teach.

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    I see nothing inherently evil about public education itself (unlike some on here I went through public schools my whole life) but there is something wrong with what the schools teach.


    Public School Education is one of the 10  hallmarks/Planks  of Communism see Communist Manifesto.

    I too am a byproduct of it and had to relearn everything I thought I once learned


    From Sex Ed, to h0Ɩ0h0αx Lie, American 'Patriotism' lies,  to the entire subject of US and world History, to lack of religion, Faith, social mores etc....it is evil.

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    Public School Education is one of the 10  hallmarks/Planks  of Communism see Communist Manifesto.


    The Communist Manifesto also advocated no to child labor. I don't see that as evil.





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    « Reply #14 on: July 07, 2012, 05:08:00 PM »
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    Public Schools are indoctrinated, for an entire MONTH, with Black History Month.

    (Despite the fact that Africa has contributed next to nothing in the world. There was NO Wheel, 2 story building or alphabet at the arrival of 1st Europeans to the Dark Continent ie Interior Africa.  No word for Love either.
    Africa hasnt changed much either.)


    A new book out states the reasons for this:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guns,_Germs,_and_Steel

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    Diamond argues that Eurasian civilization is not so much a product of ingenuity, but of opportunity and necessity. That is, civilization is not created out of superior intelligence, but is the result of a chain of developments, each made possible by certain preconditions.

    In our earliest societies, humans lived as hunter-gatherers. The first step towards civilization is the move from hunter-gatherer to agriculture, with the domestication and farming of wild crops and animals. Agricultural production leads to food surpluses, which supports sedentary societies, specialization of craft, rapid population growth, and specialization of labor. Large societies tend to develop ruling classes and supporting bureaucracies, which may lead in turn to the organization of nation states and empires.[3]

    Although agriculture arose in several parts of the world, Eurasia gained an early advantage due to the greater availability of suitable plant and animal species for domestication. In particular, Eurasia had the best collection of plants and animals suitable for domestication – barley, two varieties of wheat and three protein-rich pulses for food; flax for textiles; goats, sheep and cattle provided meat, leather, glue (by boiling the hooves and bones) and, in the case of sheep, wool. As early Middle Eastern civilizations began to trade, they found additional useful animals in adjacent territories, most notably horses and donkeys for use in transport.
    In contrast, Native American farmers had to struggle to develop maize as a useful food from its probable wild ancestor, teosinte; moreover, it provides few nutrients and must be planted one by one – an extremely cuмbersome task. Eurasians had wheat and barley, which are high in fiber and nutrients and can be sown en masse with just a toss of the hand. They generated food surpluses which supported greater population growth. Such growth led to larger workforces and more inventors, artisans, etc. Grains can also be stored for longer periods of time unlike
    tropical crops such as bananas.

    Eurasia as a whole domesticated 13 species of large animals (over 100 lb / 44 kg); South America just one (counting the llama and alpaca as breeds within the same species); the rest of the world none at all. Diamond describes the small number of domesticated species (14 out of 148 "candidates") as an instance of the Anna Karenina principle: many promising species have just one of several significant difficulties that prevent domestication.

    Sub-Saharan Africans had mostly wild mammals, whereas Eurasians chanced to have the most docile large animals on the planet: horses and camels that are easily tamed for human transport; but their biological relatives zebras and onagers are untameable; and although African elephants can be tamed, it is very difficult to breed them in captivity;[3][4] goats and sheep for hides, clothing, and cheese; cows for milk; bullocks for tilling fields and transport; and benign animals such as pigs and chickens. Africans, developing alongside large mammals, had available lions, leopards etc. Diamond points out that the only animals useful for human survival and purposes in New Guinea came from the East Asian mainland when they were transplanted during the Austronesian settlement some 4,000–5,000 years ago.

    Eurasia's large landmass and long east-west distance increased these advantages. Its large area provided it with more plant and animal species suitable for domestication, and allowed its people to exchange both innovations and diseases. Its East-West orientation allowed breeds domesticated in one part of the continent to be used elsewhere through similarities in climate and the cycle of seasons. In contrast, Australia suffered from a lack of useful animals due to extinction, probably by human hunting, shortly after the end of the Pleistocene. The Americas had difficulty adapting crops domesticated at one latitude for use at other latitudes (and, in North America, adapting crops from one side of the Rocky Mountains to the other). Africa was fragmented by its extreme variations in climate from North to South: plants and animals that flourished in one area never reached other areas where they could have flourished, because they could not survive the intervening environment. Europe was the ultimate beneficiary of Eurasia's East-West orientation: in the first millennium BC, the Mediterranean areas of Europe adopted the Middle East's animals, plants, and agricultural techniques; in the first millennium AD, the rest of Europe followed suit.[3][4]

    The plentiful supply of food and the dense populations that it supported made division of labor possible. The rise of non-farming specialists such as craftsmen and scribes accelerated economic growth and technological progress. These economic and technological advantages eventually enabled Europeans to conquer the peoples of the other continents in recent centuries by using the "Guns" and "Steel" of the book's title.

    Eurasia's dense populations, high levels of trade, and living in close proximity to livestock resulted in widespread transmission of diseases, including from animals to humans. Natural selection forced Eurasians to develop immunity to a wide range of pathogens. When Europeans made contact with America, European diseases (to which they had no immunity) ravaged the indigenous American population, rather than the other way around (the "trade" in diseases was a little more balanced in Africa and southern Asia: endemic malaria and yellow fever made these regions notorious as the "white man's grave";[5] and syphilis may have spread in the opposite direction[6]). The European diseases – the "Germs" of the book's title – decimated indigenous populations so that relatively small numbers of Europeans could maintain their dominance.[3][4]

    Guns, Germs, and Steel also offers a very brief explanation of why western European societies, rather than other powers such as China, have been the dominant colonizers.[3]

    Other advanced cultures developed in areas whose geography was conducive to large, monolithic, isolated empires. In these conditions policies of technological and social stagnation could persist – until Europeans arrived. China was a very notable example; in 1432, a new Emperor outlawed the building of ocean-going ships, in which China was the world leader at the time.

    Europe's geography favored balkanization into smaller, closer, nation-states, as its many natural barriers (mountains, rivers) provide defensible borders. As a result, governments that suppressed economic and technological progress soon corrected their mistakes or were out-competed relatively quickly. As an example of this national Darwinism, Diamond offers the disappearance of the counter-progressive Polish regime. He argues that geographical factors created the conditions for more rapid internal superpower change (Spain succeeded by France and then by England) than was possible elsewhere in Eurasia.

    Diamond examined European dominance in more detail with further examples in a later article.[7]
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