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Three Days of Darkness, 2012!
« on: December 20, 2007, 03:25:25 PM »
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    « Reply #1 on: December 20, 2007, 07:07:42 PM »
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    « Reply #2 on: December 21, 2007, 11:09:00 AM »
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  • I edited my original post. I mistakenly wrote in the beginning that the solar catastrophy was predicted to happen on Dec 12. The correct date for the predicted polar reversal is Dec. 21,  2012.

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    « Reply #3 on: December 21, 2007, 03:02:59 PM »
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  • Editing out for fact checking.

    Edited again.... I'm not getting sucked in to another Niribu-gate.

    But my personnal verdict is very clear against this, but I don't feel like fighting it.

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    « Reply #4 on: January 09, 2008, 09:07:45 PM »
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  • Let's remember a couple of things; the Dec 21st date is by the reckoning of thr Mayan Calendar which is a Pagan operation. The date may not be exactly correct.

    Also; Galileo(like Pythagoras and Copernicus) was wrong when he said that the Sun was stationary. Science has now shown that it is flying through space at about 40,000mph and we are going with it. The wisdom of the Church suspected that the Sun was not fixed.

    The question is--where is it going? Since everything in Universe seems to be going around something, it is not unreasonable to speculate that the Sun is also--and I am not trying to say that it is going around Earth.

    The Earth's axis is tilted and rotates in a 26,000 year cycle(precession). This is congruent with the Zodiac. Is the Sun  in fact revolving around Alcyone in a 26,000 yr cycle? Is the Photon belt real and when we enter it at the Null Zone, is this when the three days of darkness will hit? I rather think the following scenario is more likely than some Emanual Velikovsky Planet X scheme although my guess is that the time period will be 1080yrs--half what the below reference speculates. Scroll down to color image.

    http://www.luisprada.com/Protected/the_photonic_belt.htm
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    « Reply #5 on: January 09, 2008, 11:27:03 PM »
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  • It may have been mentioned here already, but beewax candles that are blessed will be the only things that can give light during the three days of darkness, correct?

    Where can we get beeswax candles though?
    "Non nobis, Domine, non nobis; sed nomini tuo da gloriam..." (Ps. 113:9)

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    « Reply #6 on: January 11, 2008, 10:24:57 PM »
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  • One thing is for sure:  Y2K will be minor league compared to 2012.
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    « Reply #7 on: January 11, 2008, 10:43:50 PM »
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  • Quote from: roscoe
    One thing is for sure:  Y2K will be minor league compared to 2012.


    On that it was an overblown scare you mean ?


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    « Reply #8 on: January 12, 2008, 03:08:57 PM »
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  • Whether or not this event is real, the hysteria will be much worse than Y2K.

    For those who looked at the info I posted on possibility of Photon Band, the following may be of interest.

    There is a book that can be had for about $2 over at addall.com by Richard Noone(freemason) called 5/5/2000. It is about a planetary alignment that took place then. A number of people were prophesising something disasterous at the time and of course it did not happen. The book is full of all kinds of things and on page 204, the following is described- I will summarise.

    In 1979, a group of American, British and Soviet scientists were aboard the research ship Glomar Challenger( this has to be a sister ship to the Glomar Explorer of Howard Hughes fame). Over the past 11 years, the ship had drilled 800 core holes at 500 sites deep into the sea floors around the Earth.

    Just before the conclusion of their final experiment, a Soviet device, a rotating ultrasonic beam lowered into one of the core holes docuмented that the Earth , in it's mosaic past had reversed it's polarity. The interesting thing is that the polarity LATER FLIPPED BACK to the original charge. This would be consistant with crashing into Photon Band, traveling through it for ? years and then exiting the band with another pole shift.

    If we had the data form these experiments, it might be possible to determine the number of years that the polarity was reversed and possibly how long ago it happened.

    Would this tell us when the Biblical Flood was or if 2012 is accurate? Maybe--I have attempted to gather more info on this but have run into a dead end everywhere. A letter to Mr. Noone as well as inquiries to the Scripps Oceanographic Institute and the US Gov have been met with no answer of any kind. Perhaps someone a little more enterprising than myself can persue this.

    At any rate, Mr. Noone's book is most interesting as there is much other additional material; although I don't see eye to eye with the author on most things.

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    « Reply #9 on: January 14, 2008, 11:31:29 AM »
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    Let's remember a couple of things; the Dec 21st date is by the reckoning of thr Mayan Calendar which is a Pagan operation. The date may not be exactly correct.

    Also; Galileo(like Pythagoras and Copernicus) was wrong when he said that the Sun was stationary. Science has now shown that it is flying through space at about 40,000mph and we are going with it. The wisdom of the Church suspected that the Sun was not fixed.

    The question is--where is it going? Since everything in Universe seems to be going around something, it is not unreasonable to speculate that the Sun is also--and I am not trying to say that it is going around Earth.

    The Earth's axis is tilted and rotates in a 26,000 year cycle(precession). This is congruent with the Zodiac. Is the Sun  in fact revolving around Alcyone in a 26,000 yr cycle? Is the Photon belt real and when we enter it at the Null Zone, is this when the three days of darkness will hit? I rather think the following scenario is more likely than some Emanual Velikovsky Planet X scheme although my guess is that the time period will be 1080yrs--half what the below reference speculates. Scroll down to color image.

    http://www.luisprada.com/Protected/the_photonic_belt.htm


    The religion of ancient astronomers is irrelevant because there are modern scientists who beilieve that something drastic and tragic may take place on Dec. 12, 2012. There are PROVABLE,  SCIENTIFIC reasons why scientists are concerned about where the Earth will be in it's orbit and in it's relation to other planets. Here is an interesting article:

    The Calendar -- A Descrption

    First, the Mayan calendar is also sometimes called the Aztec Calendar. This calendar is recorded as a carving on the Aztec "sun stone" currently on exhibit in the National Museum of Anthropology and History located within Chapultepec Park, Mexico City. There's a lot we could say about the carved stone but most of those details are irrelevant to the end times.

    In our modern calendar, called the Gregorian Calendar, we have days, weeks, months and years. In the Mayan Calendar it's more complex. In fact, it's really three calendars. First there's a religious calendar that takes 260 days to complete a full religious cycle. There are 20 "weeks" made up of 13 days. Each week has a special name, a graphic logo and unique meaning associated with it. This rather reminds me of the Chinese years which cycle through "the year of the rat" and "the year of the monkey," etc., each with it's special image and meaning.



    Graphic logos for each of the 20 religious weeks.

    Next there is the solar calendar. This has 365 days, like our modern calendar. It's divided in 18 months of 20 days each. At the end of the cycle there's five special days considered to be unlucky because they don't belong to any month. Each of the months has a special name, graphic logo and some special significance.

    So it is possible, for any specific date, the calculate the religious week and the solar month and to predict the influences that might be guiding fate. But that's not really what's involved with the prophecy of 2012. To understand that we must look at the third calendar, called the "long count."

    While the first two cycles could be thought of as cogs or gears, revolving through time, the long count is a linear number of days, starting from the first day, "1," and counting through each day to the present. Any day in history can be recorded using the long count and, with some fancy mathematics, the corresponding religious week and solar month can also be found.

    In writing this article, I thought about creating a javascript program that would do this calculation. My friend, Gene Matlock, then told me that when he was in Mexico, he found a place that sold wooden, mechanical calculators with gears that did just that. He said that Mexicans sometimes used these mechanical calendars to foretell the future or to find auspicious times for special events like marriage or births. Anyway, although it might be nice to know the religious and solar significance, it's the long count that foretells Doomsday.



    Cog or "gears" can be used to compute the religious and solar cycles for any date.

    The days of the long count are numbered with an unusual system. Instead of writing numbers as we do, from right to left with each place being a multiple of 10 (i.e. 10000, 1000, 100, 10, 1), the Mayans had only 5 places.

    The first place recorded a number from 0 to 20. To the left, the second place could have a range from 0 to 17; the third from 0 to 19; the fourth from 0 to 19 and the last from 0 to 12. The numbers were written from right to left, like our system, separated by a dot. Instead of multiples of 10, the first place had a multiple of 1 (like our system); the second place a multiple of 20; the third a multiple of 360; the fourth a multiple of 7200 and the fifth a multiple of 144000.

    So a long count number, for example, could be written as 4.12.5.9.0 and would be calculated as follows:

    (4 x 144000) + (12 x 7200) + (5 x 360) + (9 x 20) + (0 x 1) or a long count of 145980.

    It's not too difficult to realize that the maximum number which can be recorded this way would be 12.19.19.17.20, although some researchers like to write it as 13.0.0.0.0. This amounts to a long count number of 1,872,000 days or 5125.36 years of our modern calculations. Obviously, the calendar is very old!

    Over the years, archaeologists have found carved monuments that recorded the long count for known dates in Mayan history. Once a date was fixed in time, it was easy to determine the "day 1" as August 11th, 3114 BC. And it was also easy to calculate the date at which the calendar would end -- December 21st, 2012.

    Trust me, just because the calendar ends doesn't prove that time, or the world, or life will end. We need to look carefully at December 21, 2012 and try to understand why the Mayans never calculated a date beyond this point in time. To do this we must move from Archaeology to the science of Astronomy and Astrophysics.

    It's all about the Sun It's ironic (or maybe not) that the Mayan Calendar is often called the "sun stone." While the calendar does have "solar" days, acknowledging the 365 days it takes for Earth to rotate around the celestial body, it is also true that the Sun plays a key role in the final day of the "long count." To understand what will happen to the Sun on December 21, 2012, we need to review some scientific terms like "ecliptic," "barycenter," and "sunspots." These are important in the discussion that follows. We'll start with the most difficult one first.

    Terms we will encounter...
    What is the Barycenter?

    You've no doubt heard that Earth revolves around the sun. Well, actually, that's not quite true!

    Have you heard the term "center of gravity"? It's a technical-sounding term for something pretty simple. It's the exact center of all the material (that is, mass) that makes up the object. For example, if you have a straight stick, like a ruler or yardstick, there's a place at the middle where you can balance it on your finger. That's its center of gravity.



    But the center of gravity may or may not be the point that is exactly in the middle, distance-wise, of the object. Some parts of the object may be heavier (denser) than others. If you have something like a sledge hammer that is heavier on one end than the other, the center of gravity will be much closer to the heavy end than the lighter end.



    To get an idea of where the center of gravity is, rest the ends of any object like the ruler or a pencil on one finger from each hand. Slowly move your fingers together without dropping the object. Your fingers will meet underneath the object's center of gravity. You can balance the object on one finger at that special place.

    The actual center of gravity could be close to the surface or deep inside, depending on whether the object is flat like a ruler or a dinner plate, or "three-dimensional," like a box or a ball. And if you let the object spin (like when you throw it), it will try to spin about that point.

    In the case of the Earth and the sun, both bodies actually revolve, or spin, around the very center of the mass (similar to center of gravity) between them. This point is called the "barycenter." Earth and the sun are "connected" by the gravity pulling them together. It's just like the light end and heavy end of the sledge hammer. Compared to the size of the sun, Earth is about like a flea on a cat! So the center of mass between the Earth and the sun is almost--but not quite--the very center of the sun.

    In the case of a planet the size of Jupiter, which is 318 times as massive as Earth, the barycenter of Jupiter and the sun is a bit further from the sun's center. So, as Jupiter revolves around the sun, the sun itself is actually revolving around this slightly off-center point, located just outside its center. Thus, a planet the size of Jupiter will make the sun (or any star) appear to wobble a tiny bit. This picture shows you that the center of mass and barycenter can be slightly different points. It isn't meant to be very accurate!



    We can take advantage of this bit of knowledge and look for large planets in other solar systems by learning to detect this type of tiny wobble in the star's position.



    For now, let's forget all the small planets and focus on Jupiter. It makes one complete trip around the Sun every 11.861773 years. There's a new theory put forth by Dr. Rollin Gillespie which shows that Jupiter, and to a smaller degree the other less massive planets, may trigger the 11 year cycle of sunspots and solar flares.

    Here's how it works.


    The barycenter is not a single point in the Sun. Because the Sun is a rotating gaseous sphere, the barycenter forms a vertical, cylindrical "sleeve" that is partially inside and outside the main solar body. All of the planets have such a "sleeve," one inside the other, depending on their relative mass and the location of their barycenters. The particular sleeve representing the mass of Jupiter intersects the solar surface at 35.9 degrees North and South. This is precisely where sunspot and flare activity begin and end during each 11 year cycle.
    Scientists have noted that when Jupiter and Saturn are aligned, on the same side of the Sun, the solar activity is at its maximum; when they are on opposite sides of the Sun the solar activity is at its minimum.

    These cylinders are usually quite orderly because the planets adhere to a narrow plane, called the ecliptic which resembles a thin plate extending from the equator of the Sun. The planets hang out here because (in simple terms) this is the zone where the gravitation of the system is the strongest. (see below)



    The planets orbit the Sun in a narrow plane called the ecliptic.



    But nature is never perfect. The Sun rotates at a slight angle (7.25 degrees), much as our Earth does. As it wobbles, it tilts the sleeves, causing them to clash with eachother and eventually disrupt the surface. This disturbance, to put it simply, works its way to the surface and erupts in sun spots and solar flares.
    The last solar cycle was in 2001. Each active solar cycle has a period when the flares are strongest, usually happening near the solar equator, called the "solar maximum." This is significant because the next "solar maximum" event will coincide with December 21, 2012. But wait -- there's much more!

    Solar flares are pieces of the sun which leap into space, discharging radiation and strong electrical currents that travel outward into space. They often fall back to the surface of the Sun. Sometimes, a very strong flare, called a Coronal Mass Ejection (CME), actually leaves the Sun and this deadly mass shoots out from the Sun towards the planets like a bullet. Usually they don't hit anything but occasionally they hit a planet like Earth. Most flares are small. But even a small flare can be dangerous. In 1989 a flare hit the North American continent and fried electric lines, zapped power grids in the US and Canada, and created large power backouts. Flares can also effect our moods and physical health. In theory, a large flare impacting the Earth could zap the ionosphere and irradiate the surface, killing every living organism that it touched.
    Solar flares and sun spots have an average cycle of 11.120412 years (estimated from one "solar maximum" to the next). Right now, 2007, we are in a relatively quiet part of the cycle. The small discrepancy between this figure and the 11.861773 year period of Jupiter is close enough to be significant but suggests that something else is also influencing solar disturbances. Sure, it could be attributed to the various positions of the other less massive planets, but it could also be something even more significant -- the Milky Way.



    The Galactic Alignment of December 21, 2012

    Our solar system is part of a huge disc shaped collection of stars and planets called the Milky Way. We're located somewhere on the edge of the disc, slightly on top of the narrow disc. But very soon we'll be moving to the bottom of the disc. This change, from top to bottom, begins on December 21, 2012.

    Yes, that's right. On the same day when our Sun is at it's solar maximum, something will happen that's never happened before -- the ecliptic of our solar system will intersect with the Galactic plane, called the "Galactic Equator" of the Milky Way! [see star chart]

    If you imagine our solar system as a bunch of peas on a plate, with a huge meatball in the center, imagine the Milky Way as a city-size pizza with the "Guiness World Book Record Meatball" in its center!

    Prior to December 2012 we have been drifting on the top of the pizza, never really able to see the bottom. The plate and pizza are not parallel. They are moving at different angles. We've been drifting down, down, down... and on December 21st, 2012, we will be exactly level with the crust -- forming an "x" at the Galactic Equator where galactic gravity is the strongest. After 2012, if we are still here, we will be passing through the bottom zone, viewing the Milky Way pizza from the South.

    Yes, there's even more!



    By some amazing coincidence, not only will we be intersecting with the Galactic Equator, but we will be doing this precisely aligned with the center of the Galaxy where there is maximum mass! More mass means more gravity. More gravity means more influence from those barycenters in our Sun. That means exponential increases in solar disruptions -- all coinciding on the same day! Whew!



    [Above: The Hercules Cluster of galaxies. This group of galaxies is held together by the gravitational attraction or "pull" of each individual galaxy on the others in the group. This demonstrates the enormous gravity contained in a galaxy, such as our own Milky Way.]

    An apology and acknowledgement

    OK. This has been a "light weight" description of what's going to happen. It has been simplified to the point where some scholars and scientists could argue about my presentation. But the main facts are true. The date, December 21, 2012, is a special day. It represents the maximum possible influences for solar flares that the universe can provide. Undoubtedly the Mayans, or the civilization that influenced them, somehow knew about these things.

    Over the last decade, I have written a variety of stories about such things as underground cities and government actions that could only make sense if there were no future. I cannot help but think that maybe they, like the Mayans, know about these things. I'd specifically like to suggest that readers take another look at the underground complex at Yamantau that the Russians are building. Could this be a haven for surviving a solar blast? And what about past events? Did the Hopi go underground to survive a similar event thousands of years earlier? Should we be going underground also?

    It's also important to stress that December 21, 2012 is only the "solar maximum" but that the gravitational effects of the Galaxy have already started to assert their influence on the Sun. The drift towards alignment with the galactic equator is relatively slow and, in truth, has already started. But the precise culmination of this, plus the alignment of Jupiter and Saturn all make 12/21/12 an onimous date.

    I especially want to thank Dr. Rollin Gillespie, a man with whom I corresponded for ten years and who first developed the idea that planetary multi-body systems could be at play in the causation of solar flares. More of his work can be read on a special page on Viewzone.

    Please let's have your input on this important issue. It's only six years away. Who knows, perhaps the influences of these disruptions will begin well before the solar and Galactic maximum is reached. We may not have that much time left. Here are some additional links to stories that may help understand the possibilities facing our planet and us.

    Magnetic Somersaults - Other possibilities on December 21, 2012:
    In the first quarter of 2001, the Sun switched magnetic poles. This occurs every eleven years. Prior to this the Sun's north magnetic pole was at the north rotational pole. Now the Sun's north magnetic pole is at its south pole. Since opposite poles attract, the magnetic poles of the Earth and Sun are now at their most stable.

    Just about the time of 2012 Winter Solstice, the Sun's poles will switch back. During this switch there will be a tendency for the Sun's magnetic field to pull the Earth's field with it.
    If the Earth's magnetic poles switch, this would put stress on the planet aggravating earthquakes and volcanos, not to mention destruction of the electrical power distribution grid. And, if the switch happens fast enough don't ever expect your computer to work again. But if you have old tube type equipment, keep it. It should survive just fine. It will work if you can find electricity.

    Here are some other articles on this subject that you will find very interesting:

    Will the Mayan Prophecy Really Happen? - an interesting view from Gene Matlock.

    Sidereal Time and ESP -- exploring the psychic connection of our Galaxy's center.



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    What makes 2012 significant is that it coincides with the alignment of the center of the Milky Way galaxy, our sun, earth, and the large planets. If it was not for this fact I would say that 2012 was just another Y2K hoax. But the astronomy makes it believeable.

    It looks like this gravitational cosmic tsunami could cause the sun to scorch the earth. That means that the only immediate survivors would be people in the underground cities, caves, and submarines. However, even these people may not survive too long because such an event ( gravitational surges ) might bring on earth quakes and volcanic activity, flooding, and the such. These events might collapse underground cities and caves. Huge tidal floods might flood subways on the eastern seaboard.

    However, if just a few did manage to survive. They would not be able to come out of their underground dwellings for some time, because the earth's protective magnetic shield may be gone.

    If the upper atmosphere and the earth's atmosphere was able to repair itself say in even a short period of time of one year, the survivors would face a barren world. All surface vegetation and animal life will have been destroyed. The surface of earth might perhaps look like a barren planet. The only possible source of food for those few survivors might be the ocean. Plant life and sea life might survive this event to some small degree. However, there is one problem...more than likely all the plankton will die. They live at the surface of the water and will be destroyed by the radiation.

    Plankton is the basic building block of life for many living organisms in the ocean. Plankton is the biggest generator of oxygen on the planet. With plankton gone and the forest gone, what is going to provide and create oxygen for the planet?

    It doesn't look good for the few that survive 2012. It may very well be the end of the world. Unless, a greater power comes to rescue us. But are we worth it? Man is a miserable creature that kills and destroys himself and other living things.

    Johann

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    Three Days of Darkness, 2012!
    « Reply #10 on: January 14, 2008, 12:04:34 PM »
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  • Did anyone notice that during the last winter solstice, there was a full moon?
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    « Reply #12 on: February 19, 2008, 01:43:52 PM »
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  • Things are so far gone on this planet that it is going to take divine intervention to change things.

    The three days of darkness that preceeds our entry into the era of light could itself be preceeded by 2 or 3 days of superintense light.

    Once the three days of dkness are complete things will stabilise but the nature of the Earth's atmosphere may change. This could explain how the Pyramids were built: after all no one really knows how the huge stones were lifted during construction.

    If the nature of gravity were to change, it could be the answer to the question of the Pyramids--were they constructed during our last journey throug the era of light?

    Electronic function may change and all surveillance devices will be rendered inoperable(thank you Jesus)
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    « Reply #13 on: February 19, 2008, 01:52:07 PM »
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  • And I am not so sure that there is necessarily going to be a great catastrophy. The catastrophic event may be(have been) when the Earth LEAVES the era of light and not when we enter. The three days of darkness could happen as a pure blessing.

    Some people think that photonic light is capable of interacting with our DNA; this could cure diseases on a world wide scale.

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    Three Days of Darkness, 2012!
    « Reply #14 on: January 27, 2012, 05:43:39 PM »
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  • Bumping this thread up, now that 2012 is here.  

    Anyone have anything more to add, just curious.

    Myself I don't know what to think of this prophesy.
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