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Offline SaintBasil

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« Reply #15 on: July 04, 2012, 05:45:22 PM »
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    So let me get this straight, the Khazars or as they are more commonly known the αѕнкenαzι, are a mix of Turkish, Caucasian and Mongoloid.  Correct?
    Reply- YES
     



    It is my understanding that the Ottoman Turks are descended from the Edomites.  We all know that the Edomites are Semites and that when the Israelites were taken into captivity in Babylon, many Arabs began to occupy the land of Edom which in turn forced the Edomites to occupy the kingdom of Judah.

    REPLY- Edomites are NOT Semites.
    According to Microsoft Encarta, "Today, about 85% of all Jews are αѕнкenαzιm". The αѕнкenαzι are not descendants of Israel, Ashkenaz was the grandson of Japheth and brother of Togarmah.
    Arthur Koestler further explains why today's Jews call themselves αѕнкenαzι even though they are the Physical seed of Togarmah. He shows that the KHAZARS took on the name of Ashkenaz because it was prophesied in Jeremiah 51:27 that Ashkenaz and their allies would conquer Babylon.






    My question is this, if the Edomites are true Semites and it is a matter of historical truth that they once occupied the kingdom of Judah, how can the claim be made that they have no right to what is now the state of Israel which was once their homeland?'
    -REPLY. They are NOT Semites. BUt Sephardim.
    (descendants of Jacob twin Esau or Edom)
    The Israelites descended from Jacob; while the KHAZARS descended from Japheth and the Edomites from Esau. The Israelites originated from northeastern Africa; while the KHAZARS originated from southeastern Europe and the Edomites from the southern Palestine/Jordan area.






    The only reason Jesus calls them the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan is because they perverted the true teachings handed down by Moses.  It has nothing to do with race.  I might add that tradition says that holy Job was an Edomite and we all know how highly God regarded him.
    REPLY-It has everything to d ith Race and Mixing which is and was Condemned BY GOD.
    Yes, they perverted the teachings of GOD as well, you are correct.
    GOD himself selected the Israelites and hated the Edomites (Malachi 1: 1-5), while according to history, the KHAZARS were chosen by men
      The Jєωιѕн Encyclopedia,1925 edition, vol. 5, p. 41, says:"Edom is in Modern Jewery."





    Btw, it has always been my contention that race has nothing to do with determining who is Jєωιѕн.  Just read the OT and you'll see that the Jews of the old covenant consisted of many different ethic groups and races.  As long as a person adopts the religion and adheres to all its tenets, they are in fact truly Jєωιѕн.  
    -REPLY. You totally off base.
    Race has everything to do with them and their plans.
    They are tribal and always have been.
    Their bloodline is Maternal, probably for tracking purposed (Dads can lie, moms cant)



    Noah had 3 sons: Shem, Japheth and Ham.

    I.Shem
    A.Abraham
    1.Ishmael -- father of the Arabs
    a.Descendants of Shem


    2.Isaac
    1.Esau -- twin of Jacob; father of the Edomites; married two or three Canaanites and one Ishmaelite
    a.After destruction of Jerusalem in 70 A.D. most went to Northern Africa and Spain; a few to the Khazar Empire
    b.Sephardic Jews
    c.Descendants of Shem


    2.Jacob/Israel; twin of Esau -- father of the Israelites
    a.Judah married Canaanite; had 3 sons--only 1 son; had children--he (Shelah) married a Canaanite
    b.Judah then had two sons by an Israelite woman
    c.Some of the other Israelites also intermarried Canaanites and other strange races
    d.The rest married another Israelite and became eventually a multitude of nations; a great nation and other nations
    e.Descendants of Shem
    II.Japheth
    1.Askenαzι -- converted in the sixth century (A.D.) to Judaism in Khazar Empire

    1.According to Jєωιѕн sources these people make up over 90% of the total Jєωιѕн population
    2.αѕнкenαzι Jews
    3.NOT SEMITIC -- Descendants of Japheth


    III.Ham
    A.Some became Falashas Jews through intermarriage with Canaanites or Edomites; a few converted to Judaism
    B.NOT SEMITIC -- Descendants of Ham
    SUMMARY


    1.Most Arabs are Semitic
    2.Most Israelites are Semitic
    3.Most Jews are not Semitic; only about 10% or less are Semitic

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    « Reply #16 on: July 04, 2012, 08:21:39 PM »
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    So let me get this straight, the Khazars or as they are more commonly known the αѕнкenαzι, are a mix of Turkish, Caucasian and Mongoloid. Correct?
    Reply- YES

    -REPLY. They are NOT Semites. BUt Sephardim.
    (descendants of Jacob twin Esau or Edom)
    The Israelites descended from Jacob; while the KHAZARS descended from Japheth and the Edomites from Esau. The Israelites originated from northeastern Africa; while the KHAZARS originated from southeastern Europe and the Edomites from the southern Palestine/Jordan area.
     

    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Edomites
    E·dom·ite A member of a Semitic people inhabiting Edom in ancient times.

    You confuse me, first you admit that the Khazars are a mixture of Turkic, Caucasian and Mongoloid peoples and then you say that the Khazars don't have at least some Edomite blood?  Then you proceed to say that the Edomites aren't Semites.  How do you figure that the descendants of Esau who shared the same parentage as his twin brother Jacob aren't Semites?   Since the Ottoman Turks are the descendants of Esau through their forebearer Teman, (Genesis 36:11) and the αѕнкenαzι (Khazars) have some Edomite blood and its irrefutable that at one time they did occupy the Kingdom of Judah, it is erroneous to say that they have no ties to the Holy Land.

    The only reason Jesus calls them the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan is because they perverted the true teachings handed down by Moses. It has nothing to do with race. I might add that tradition says that holy Job was an Edomite and we all know how highly God regarded him.
    REPLY-It has everything to d ith Race and Mixing which is and was Condemned BY GOD.
    Yes, they perverted the teachings of GOD as well, you are correct.
    GOD himself selected the Israelites and hated the Edomites (Malachi 1: 1-5), while according to history, the KHAZARS were chosen by men
    The Jєωιѕн Encyclopedia,1925 edition, vol. 5, p. 41, says:"Edom is in Modern Jewery."

    You are not interpreting scripture correctly.  God hates no one but, rather desires all to be saved.  The word hate in this verse indicates that God hated the sins of the children of Esau, not the people themselves.  I've always understood the prophecies contained in the OT (particularly the book of Obadiah) regarding the total destruction of Edom to represent the ultimate rejection by God of the damned.  Edom symbolizes the reprobate.
     
    Btw, do not the modern Palestinians trace their lineage to Esau as well?  I only mention this because so many today are up and arms over their mistreatment (and rightly so) by the Jews.  I find this strange because the Jews are condemned while the Palestinians are made to appear as gentle doves.
    My conscience compels me to make this disclaimer lest God judges me partly culpable for the errors and heresy promoted on this forum... For the record I support neither Sedevacantism or the SSPX.  I do not define myself as either a traditionalist or Novus


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    « Reply #17 on: July 04, 2012, 09:20:14 PM »
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  • [rowsofvoices9]
    You confuse me, first you admit that the Khazars are a mixture of Turkic, Caucasian and Mongoloid peoples and then you say that the Khazars don't have at least some Edomite blood?
    REPLY- Yes. A Mix.
    NO, NO Edomite Blood unless in recent years from mixing with Sephardic, but even that is frowned upon in Israel.

    'Israeli Jews consists of two groups (αѕнкenαzι and Sephardim), ten to twenty percent are known as Sephardim or Eastern Jew, the remaining eighty to ninety percent are known as αѕнкenαzι or European Jew. The αѕнкenαzι Jew comes from Eastern European countries, the Sephardim comes from "Mideast countries".




    Then you proceed to say that the Edomites aren't Semites.  How do you figure that the descendants of Esau who shared the same parentage as his twin brother Jacob aren't Semites?   Since the Ottoman Turks are the descendants of Esau through their forebearer Teman, (Genesis 36:11) and the αѕнкenαzι (Khazars) have some Edomite blood and its irrefutable that at one time they did occupy the Kingdom of Judah, it is erroneous to say that they have no ties to the Holy Land.
    REPLY- Correct.
    Edomites are NOT of Shem.  They are the Sephardic (Dark completed) Jews of Jewry.
    Khazars are from the same Asiatic Turk Mongols, more related to them than Edomites.

     






    You are not interpreting scripture correctly.  God hates no one but, rather desires all to be saved.  The word hate in this verse indicates that God hated the sins of the children of Esau, not the people themselves.  I've always understood the prophecies contained in the OT (particularly the book of Obadiah) regarding the total destruction of Edom to represent the ultimate rejection by God of the damned.  Edom symbolizes the reprobate.

    REPLY-GOD Hates Sin and Sinful people.
    GOD Hates Race Mixing, and other abominations.





     
    Btw, do not the modern Palestinians trace their lineage to Esau as well?  I only mention this because so many today are up and arms over their mistreatment (and rightly so) by the Jews.  I find this strange because the Jews are condemned while the Palestinians are made to appear as gentle doves.[/quote]

    REPLY-Palestinians are of SHEM. Semites.
    Some may also be Edomites and converted Sephardics.


    Facts speak for themselves.
    Israel Has Created 4 million Refugees
    Holds World's record for UN Violations at 69+,
    Killed more innocent civilians per capita than any other country 50,000,
     Has Imprisoned more civilians per cap 250,000 ,
    Rendered more civilians Handicapped per cap 50,000
    Demolished more homes than any other country 60,000+
    Outlawed marriage to Non-Jews,
    Destroyed 350 Christian Churches & Mosques
    6 Wars in 60 years
    254 km of Apartheid Wall
    562 Check Points and Has Ethnically cleansed 531 villages

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    « Reply #18 on: July 04, 2012, 09:22:05 PM »
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    « Reply #19 on: July 04, 2012, 09:33:57 PM »
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  • Abraham, Isaac and Jacob were descendants of Shem.

    But the "Jews" are mostly from Japheth, or are Serpent's seed, and have no historic presence in Palestine.

    Gomer settled originally in Armenia. His son, Ashkenaz, in Turkey. Later Jєωιѕн traditions associate Ashkenaz with Gomer and Germanic races. Because the name "Ashkenaz" was applied to medieval Germany in rabbinical literature, German Jews are known as αѕнкenαzιm.
    The Assyrians tell us in their inscriptions of the Askuza, a tribe who allied themselves with the Mannai in a revolt during the seventh century BC. This incident is also mentioned by Jeremiah 51:27. In this statement Jeremiah confirms the identity of the αѕнкenαzι with the Askuza. The Askuza of the Assyrian records, later became the Skythai (Scythians) of Herodotus.

    Other early sources confirm their place of settlement in what was to become Pontus and Bythinia (northern Turkey), where the peoples of Ashkenaz gave their name to the lake and harbour of Ascanius, and to the district of Ascania. They are also said to have given their name to the Axenus or Euxine Sea (the modern Black Sea), on whose shores they first settled. Josephus tells us they were known to the Greeks as the Rheginians.

    The αѕнкenαzιm Jews are not descendants of Shem, but Khazars, and sons of Japheth who intermarried with the Serpent's seed of Heth, progenitor of the Hittite nation, known to the Assyrians as the Khatti.


    Heth's name was perpetuated in the Hittite capital Hattushash, modern Boghazkeiu in Turkey. The Mongol Khazars were Huns, a mixture of warlike nomadic people of the Turkic language group, driven westward by the Chinese and other Asiatics. In about AD600 this belligerent tribe of half- Mongolian people, similar to the modern Turks, conquered the territory of what is now southern Russia. Before long the Khazars' kingdom ran from the Caspian to the Black Sea with its capital, Ityl, at the mouth of the Volga River (A History of the Jews, Solomon Grayzel).

    In AD740 the Khazars were converted to тαℓмυdic Judaism by rabbis from Babylon, which was the center of Jєωιѕн scholarship from the Captivity in 586BC until about AD1100. Although neither Hebrews, Israelites or even Jews of Idumea, the Khazars make the most vocal claims to be "God's chosen people." After AD765 the Khazar empire ceased to exist, and as the independence of the Khazar state waned unto extinction, this Asiatic mixture migrated into Europe, contributing further to the downfall of Jewry; as may be confirmed in any Jєωιѕн Encyclopedia or history.

    These self-styled or International Jews have made trouble wherever they went. They've been expelled from England and every kingdom in Europe, until after 1497 there were no professing Jews (except for an underground of forced converts) left in all the lands bordering the Atlantic, including England. During the seventeenth century, however, they returned and penetrated to Holland and England. Only in 1917 did the Revolution abolish the Pale of Settlement and take away the last barriers to their settlement throughout Russia.


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    « Reply #20 on: July 05, 2012, 12:44:28 AM »
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  • Well Arabs are Semites, so the Palestinians should have claim to the land if being Semitic is what counts.

    Think probably the proper name would be Israelites for those Semitic Jews who conquered Caanan.

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    « Reply #21 on: July 05, 2012, 09:19:13 AM »
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    Well Arabs are Semites, so the Palestinians should have claim to the land if being Semitic is what counts.

    Think probably the proper name would be Israelites for those Semitic Jews who conquered Caanan.


    No, Jews are NOT in any way, Israelites.

    Palestinians are in Fact more Semitic (SHEM) than Jews.

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    « Reply #22 on: July 05, 2012, 09:28:13 AM »
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  • Maybe this will help clarify..


    The Seedlines Docuмented


    In brief, the genealogy of Cain and Canaan goes like this: Nachash (who seduced Eve): Cain (who took a wife from the non-Adamic land of Nod): the Kenites: the Canaanites: the Edomites: the Idumeans (from whom the scribes and Pharisees originated), and finally: the Jews. All of these Canaanite tribes carry in their blood the genetic material of Nachash, the “serpent” of Genesis 3. The Book of Enoch says that Eve was seduced by one of Satan’s lieutenants. His name was Gadrel.
    If that account is correct, then the Serpent had a name, Gadrel. What a lucky guy! He got to seduce the most beautiful woman who ever lived; and he was the father of a race of “human” devils!

    Noah’s prophecy that Canaan’s descendants will be the servants of the Shemites was proven accurate when the Canaanites and Edomites, after having been subdued militarily by Joshua, Saul and David, were hired as servants to the House of David. And throughout history, Israelite Kings and Queens have hired Jews as economic advisers, lawyers, consultants, astrologers, etc. Indeed, throughout history, Canaan has been the servant of Shem…until very recently.




    One extremely significant prophecy is completely overlooked by mainstream ʝʊdɛօ-Christians. After Jacob was blessed by his father, Isaac, Esau, the quintessential whining proto-Jew that he was, came crying to his father, weeping and begging for a blessing. Gen. 27: 30-46:

    30And it came to pass, as soon as Isaac had made an end of blessing Jacob, and Jacob was yet scarce gone out from the presence of Isaac his father, that Esau his brother came in from his hunting.  31And he also had made savoury meat, and brought it unto his father, and said unto his father, Let my father arise, and eat of his son's venison, that thy soul may bless me.  32And Isaac his father said unto him, Who art thou? And he said, I am thy son, thy firstborn Esau.  
    33And Isaac trembled very exceedingly, and said, Who? where is he that hath taken venison, and brought it me, and I have eaten of all before thou camest, and have blessed him? yea, and he [Jacob] shall be blessed.  34And when Esau heard the words of his father, he cried with a great and exceeding bitter cry, and said unto his father, Bless me, even me also, O my father. 35And he said, Thy brother came with subtilty, and hath taken away thy blessing.  36And he said, Is not he rightly named Jacob? for he hath supplanted me these two times: he took away my birthright; and, behold, now he hath taken away my blessing.

    And he said, Hast thou not reserved a blessing for me?
    37And Isaac answered and said unto Esau, Behold, I have made him thy lord, and all his brethren have I given to him for servants; and with corn and wine have I sustained him: and what shall I do now unto thee, my son?  38And Esau said unto his father, Hast thou but one blessing, my father? bless me, even me also, O my father.
    And Esau [like a wailing rabbi!] lifted up his voice, and wept.
    39And Isaac his father answered and said unto him, Behold, thy dwelling shall be away from [the words, “AWAY FROM,” in the Revised Standard Version, but not in the KJV] the fatness of the earth, and of the dew of heaven from above;  40And by thy sword shalt thou live, and shalt serve thy brother; and it shall come to pass WHEN THOU SHALT HAVE THE DOMINION, that thou shalt break his yoke from off thy neck.


    These words are a continuation of the curses upon Cain, for whom the ground would not yield its fruit, and upon Canaan, who was cursed by Noah. Note that these curses fall upon the same seedline: Cain: Canaan: Esau, who was renamed Edom.
     It is well known to all that the Jєωιѕн people don’t know the first thing about farming, and their тαℓмυd says that farming is the lowliest position that any Jew can occupy. (Yebamoth 63a.)


    Note further that Isaac said that Esau’s descendants would live by the sword. Indeed they have. For these Edomites and Canaanites have made continuous war against True Israel ever since. In modern times, these descendants of Esau have made continuous war against the House of Jacob; but they have been able to disguise their militarism by using the power of usury to finance mercenary armies.
    And this is the story of the House of Rothschild, which has made continuous war against the House of True Israel, since they financed the French Revolution in 1789.
    Since then, these Edomites, although serving the royal Houses of True Israel in Europe, have been plotting and scheming against our people WITH ABANDON, being the disciples of Abbadon, the false accuser of True Israel.

    Isaac’s prophecy to Esau was fully realized in the year 1948, when these non-Shemitic, non-Israelite, non-Hebrew, non-Adamic, Edomite and Khazar Jews created the bastard State of Israeli, and they have had the dominion over us since that day!!!

    40 And by thy sword shalt thou live, and shalt serve thy brother; and it shall come to pass when thou shalt have the dominion, that thou shalt break his yoke from off thy neck.


    Since only we in Identity understand that the Jews are impostors, posing as Israel, no one else has been able to determine the meaning of this prophecy. To us, the meaning is obvious! Zionism and the Israeli State are the complete fulfillment of Isaac’s prophecy to Esau.
    The ʝʊdɛօ-Christian world, utterly fooled, bewitched, bothered, bewildered and bamboozled by Judaism’s false claims to Israelite heritage, literally worship the anti-Christ in the name of the Bible. Just as Eve was beguiled by the “serpent,” the ʝʊdɛօ-Christians have been beguiled by Zionism. Only this time, an entire race has been seduced. And this also fulfills the New Testament prophecy that whole world would be deceived the Zionist beast (Rev. 12:9).


    The Satanic empire of Zionism was established in the State of “Israel” on May 15, 1948.
    Since that day, the tables have been turned, and Esau has had the dominion over Jacob-Israel; but that is only a temporary development. The Judgment Day will put an end to Esau’s dominion; and the Canaanites will be written out of the Book of Life forever (Zech 14:21, Rev. 20).


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    « Reply #23 on: July 05, 2012, 01:40:48 PM »
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  • As said, the term "Jew" is an invented word, first appearing in the KJV referring to those who lived in Judah and or the Israelites. Is that right?

    If the word "jew" is invented and a misinterpretation, what is the original word supposed to be where we see the word "Jew" in the bible?

    Please excuse me. I would never defend the ѕуηαgσgυє of satan or those that today call themselves "Jews" but are indeed Khazars, тαℓмυdists and Pharisees but I think it would help me in explaining to others what is the original Greek or Hebrew word that has been interpreted in the KJV and other versions, as "Jew".

    p.s. I do not read KJV or NIV. I have an NIV and Douay-Rheims and the post VII Catholic Bible.
    In D-R, the verse from John is St. John 8:44 and the word "Jew" is used.

    I will read Koestler's, The 13th Tribe. I think it is free on the internet somewhere.

    I still have another question after this one.

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    « Reply #24 on: April 23, 2013, 01:22:23 AM »
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  • rowsofvoices9 said:

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    In the book of the Apocalypse chapters 2:9 and 3:9, Our Lord makes a reference to those who pretend to be Jews but in reality are imposters.  

     I have pondered many times who specifically Jesus was speaking of.  Was His intention to single out and cast aspersions on those people commonly known as the Khazars, or was he referring to a group of people whose alliance or belief system is entirely different?  Those who profess a set of beliefs that are completely inimical to Catholicism (I realize Judaism is so as well and Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ is based on this counterfeit religion) and bent on the total destruction of the Church? After considering the fact that numerous Popes in their encyclicals and other official Church docuмents have referred to Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ as being the "ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan", I've come to the conclusion that it is the freemasons and not the Jєωιѕн people of Khazarian descent is what Our Lord meant.  Face it, there are many wonderful people who identify themselves as Jєωιѕн. Everyone is also well aware that membership in Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ isn't exclusively open to members of Jєωιѕн ancestry but, has many adherents who are of Gentile origin as well.  Both are Jews and Gentiles who are freemasons are acting as agents of Satan and that is why I've come the believe what I do.


    I found this really interesting article that seems to agree with my long held belief that the "pretend Jews" Jesus was referring to has nothing whatsoever to do with ethnicity or race but rather it is the Freemasons.  The Church has repeated stated this as well and it makes perfect sense when you consider that the god of Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ is really Lucifer.

    My only warning is that this particular website promotes condemned seers and apparitions.  However this particular piece is interesting.

    http://unveilingtheapocalypse.blogspot.com/2012/03/ѕуηαgσgυє-of-satan.html



    My conscience compels me to make this disclaimer lest God judges me partly culpable for the errors and heresy promoted on this forum... For the record I support neither Sedevacantism or the SSPX.  I do not define myself as either a traditionalist or Novus

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    « Reply #25 on: April 23, 2013, 04:00:35 PM »
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  • Now we can see what SaintBasil was doing on the 4th of July instead of
    participating in the local Fireworks neighborhood rituals!


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    Quote from: theology101
    Well Arabs are Semites, so the Palestinians should have claim to the land if being Semitic is what counts.

    Think probably the proper name would be Israelites for those Semitic Jews who conquered Caanan.


    No, Jews are NOT in any way, Israelites.

    Palestinians are in Fact more Semitic (SHEM) than Jews.



    It seems St.Basil would have us add an "h" to Semitic, to yield "Shemitic."

    No?






    Rows and rows of quotes:

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    rowsofvoices9 said:

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    In the book of the Apocalypse chapters 2:9 and 3:9, Our Lord makes a reference to those who pretend to be Jews but in reality are imposters.  

     I have pondered many times who specifically Jesus was speaking of.  


    According to some, you have then wasted your time, trouble and effort
    pondering something that Jesus never said, because the word "Jews" did
    not exist until the 17th century, when the 2nd edition of the KJV Bible was
    printed.  But wait.............  They furthermore say "Jews" was a new word
    in the 18th century.  Maybe it all depends on what you mean by "new."


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    Was His intention to single out and cast aspersions on those people commonly known as the Khazars, or was he referring to a group of people whose alliance or belief system is entirely different?  Those who profess a set of beliefs that are completely inimical to Catholicism (I realize Judaism is so as well and Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ is based on this counterfeit religion) and bent on the total destruction of the Church? After considering the fact that numerous Popes in their encyclicals and other official Church docuмents have referred to Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ as being the "ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan", I've come to the conclusion that it is the freemasons and not the Jєωιѕн people of Khazarian descent is what Our Lord meant.  

    Face it, there are many wonderful people who identify themselves as Jєωιѕн. Everyone is also well aware that membership in Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ isn't exclusively open to members of Jєωιѕн ancestry but, has many adherents who are of Gentile origin as well.  Both are Jews and Gentiles who are freemasons are acting as agents of Satan and that is why I've come the believe what I do.


    I found this really interesting article that seems to agree with my long held belief that the "pretend Jews" Jesus was referring to has nothing whatsoever to do with ethnicity or race but rather it is the Freemasons.  The Church has repeated[ly] stated this as well and it makes perfect sense when you consider that the god of Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ is really Lucifer.

    My only warning is that this particular website promotes condemned seers and apparitions.  
    However this particular piece is interesting.



    You can add this fact of history to your list, based on my testimony, but
    you are most welcome to verify it by asking others who have done this:

    I went to a local Masonic Lodge, and happened to find one of their "officers"
    available to speak with, and I asked him several innocent questions about
    Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ.  He seemed to be genuinely impressed with my interest, so
    he invited me into his humble office at the end of the "vestibule" of the
    "temple." He used keys for opening the locked doors.  We sat down and
    he went into some detail.  His first point, which seemed to be extremely
    important to him, was to evoke from me my deepest conviction, to let him
    know from the very start, whether Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ is in any way based in
    Judaism or established by Jews.  I watched his manner carefully and tried
    to give him the impression that all of this was entirely new to me, that I had
    never thought about it before.  Nor did I want him to think that I had any
    adverse reaction to the proposition itself.  I did this for informational reasons
    only, and not to tell him a lie or to get any kind of advantage over him.  

    He then went on to explain that there are tests that members have to
    pass to move up from one level of Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ to the next.  They're
    called "degrees."  You can think of that as a certificate of achievement
    like an Associate degree, or a Bachelor's degree, or a Master's, or you can
    alternatively think of it as tiny lines on a thermometer, for example.

    Take your pick.

    But from the start, in order to be admitted AT ALL even to the First Degree
    of Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ, I (or anyone else for that matter) would have to assert
    and promise and perhaps even "swear" that I am in no way an adherent
    of the 'false creed' that Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ has any truck with Judaism or Jews,
    even if some members of Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ are Jєωιѕн, because the most
    precious and dearly held common factor of all the Brothers in the
    Brotherhood is, that neither "country, color nor creed" has any bearing on
    a man's eligibility to become a Freemason.  But even more than that, the
    Most Important Dogma, and anyone opposed to which cannot become a
    Freemason, is that Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ was NOT established by Jews, NOR are its
    principles founded on Jєωιѕн doctrines.  For a man who believes any such
    thing will become forever blacklisted and utterly ineligible for membership.

    Now, if it is that easy to obtain this staunchly held doctrine at your very
    first introductory meeting with such a representative of Masonry, it must
    be a very important topic for them, one that absolutely does not tolerate
    any infraction.  

    In other words, how intolerant of them!

    These, mind you, are the same people who hurl the epithet of "Intolerant!"
    at others who do not accept certain PC, or liberal, doctrines.






    Just for fun -- here is a picture of my favorite menorah.  This is a 9-
    branch menorah, while the more traditional ones are 7-branch but I
    do not pretend to know what that's all about.  The majority of the
    "contemporary" or "modern" menorahs have 9 branches.  It's from
    menorah.com and it is currently available!  Their online store lists it
    thusly in their Made In Israel Menorahs section.  If anyone can say why there are 11 of
    those blue 6-pointed stars in front, and what design the stars are,
    I would appreciate your input!  (Note, it should say "With Tanks, jets
    and helicopters" in the description below!):

     Army Menorah

    Item #  - ELARMY

    Beautiful Army Menorah
    With Tanks, airplanes and jets
    Great for someone in the army, navy or marines
    Size:10" x 4 x 5

    Price $89.00

     

    Tell a Friend about this product

    Add Drip Cups Protect your Menorah
    + $9.95



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    Offline Croix de Fer

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    « Reply #26 on: April 23, 2013, 04:31:49 PM »
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  • Everyone subscribing to "Judaism" is a FAKE Jew because these so called "Jews" ceased being spiritual descendants of Abraham and David the moment they rejected Christ, and now, in continuing to reject Christ. In rejecting Christ, they rejected their own Law and prophesy, which Christ fulfilled. Christians are the real Jews because the Church is the continuation of the Faith and spirituality of Abraham / David, and their descendants including the Holy Family and the men who would later become Christ's Apostles when He embarked on His ministry. All of "Judaism" is the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan. Since Jesus' ministry, crucifixion, and Resurrection,  "Judaism" has been a complete rupture from the Faith and spirituality of Abraham and his descendants.

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    « Reply #27 on: April 23, 2013, 05:21:42 PM »
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  • WHAT IS THE ѕуηαgσgυє OF SATAN?

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    Pope Pius IX, among other great Catholic leaders, called Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ "the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan", which may seem to contradict what Haydock's Bible says, as quoted here, until one realizes that Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ is arguably  Judaism for Gentiles, which is why it's often called 'ʝʊdɛօ-Masonry' -- partly because it's based on the Jєωιѕн Kabbalah, according the the Masonic heavy-weights who started the occult revival of the 19th century. So, when Jesus speaks of 'the builders', He may well be speaking of ʝʊdɛօ-Masonry, the builders of the occult tradition.


    http://sealofsolomon.tripod.com/HAYDOCKS.HTM

    By this reasoning all members of Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ are the fake Jews Jesus refers to.
    My conscience compels me to make this disclaimer lest God judges me partly culpable for the errors and heresy promoted on this forum... For the record I support neither Sedevacantism or the SSPX.  I do not define myself as either a traditionalist or Novus

    Offline Telesphorus

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    « Reply #28 on: April 23, 2013, 11:07:38 PM »
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  • He said the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan receives strength from the Freemasons, not that they ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan is Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ.

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    « Reply #29 on: April 23, 2013, 11:12:52 PM »
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  • Quote from: Diego
    Jesus was clear that He was speaking of those who "...call themselves Jews...," so certainly He cannot be excluding those who call themselves Jews.

    Of course, the SS has many allies, including the post-conciliar Church and arguably the ѕуηαgσgυє's branch office in Menzingen.



    Yea!!!  

    Diego, the authentic Gentile cowboy is back and posting on one of his favorite topics.

    Welcome back !


     :dancing-banana:
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi