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Thomas Duncan knew he had Ebola when he left Liberia
« on: October 03, 2014, 02:03:11 AM »
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  • Nothing makes a medical type, or even an ex-medical type like me, madder than hearing officials sprout total bs regarding diseases.We are being told that Thomas Eric Duncan, the gentleman ensconced in an isolation unit it Dallas, only had contact with a dozen or so people since he arrived in the United States.

    Rubbish. Total garbage. The official version of him not being sick before he arrived in the US actually increases the likelihood of having far more contacts than is being stated.

    Let’s break this down:
    Thomas Duncan arrived in the United States on September 20th after leaving Liberia on September 19th.
    SIX DAYS later on September 26th he takes himself to the hospital saying he feels unwell. He is sent home with antibiotics
    TWO DAYS later, on September 28th he returns to the hospital and is considered an Ebola risk and put into isolation.

    Right, a few facts:
    ALL body fluids are infective after the symptoms start to show. Not just the faeces, vomit and blood officials keep telling us about. Sweat, semen and tears are all body fluids.

    Visible symptoms, as in ‘Ebola is not infectious until symptoms the show’ is variable from person to person. A mild sore throat to one person may feel like a cactus stuck in their neck to another. This not only dictates how fast a person seeks medical assistance for the problem, but if the patient perceives there to actually BE a problem in the first place.
    Taking temperatures as a means of detecting a person has Ebola is akin to checking a lottery ticket before the draw and declaring it a winner! This is a ‘look, we are being proactive ‘PR thing. Having  no fever now does not mean you will be fever free tomorrow, or even two hours after the ‘test’.  In addition, fever is often not the first sign of a person carrying Ebola. Sore throat, feeling a bit ‘fluey’, and  generally aching a bit usually precedes the acute (rapid) onset of fever that is so beloved by officialdom.
    The mean onset time of Ebola symptoms in the Liberian outbreak, where we can assume Thomas Duncan contracted the disease is 9 days. Minimum is 2 days, maximum 21 days, though by far the vast majority of people in the Liberian outbreak have started to show symptoms around the 9 day mark.
    We have no way of knowing if Thomas Duncan is an average patient, but we can assume he did not contract Ebola on US soil. So counting back from September 26th, when he first sought medical help, we can arrive at the date of 5th of September as the earliest date he could have become infected. we also have no way of knowing if he was having symptoms that were minor enough that he didn’t seek help. UPDATE: The Liberian government has stated that Mr Duncan had direct contact with an Ebola victim in Monrovia on September 15th. (source)
    We have to question why he left Liberia at this particular time. Is he an American returning home? A dual citizen? A Liberian visiting friends and family ? If it was the latter did he know he had been exposed and know his chances of survival were higher in the United States? UPDATE: Liberian government have confirmed Thomas Eric Duncan is a Liberian resident living in Monrovia. (source)
    So Thomas Duncan arrives on a plane full of people, travelling from Liberia via Brussels, he seems well. He makes his way from the airport to his family…in a cab? Is he picked up by relatives or a friend? Does he use public transport?  It doesn’t matter if he was not infective at that point, but nobody can be sure can they?
    So he travels to his destination, one would assume he is meeting with family members and friends during this period. We know for sure he had contact with five school children, those kids attend four different schools so we can assume they are not all from one family. Families tend to put kids in the same schools. So there will have been a few parents of those kids around.
    Did all these meetings take place at home? did they eat out, go to a movie? Go to the shopping mall? Did he stay indoors for the entire six days until he first attended the hospital?
    When he did first attend the hospital one would assume that the place was not empty. There would have been other patients around, probably with relatives. Staff would be milling about. He would have had to check in at reception, a nurse would have spoken to him. He was prescribed antibiotics, where was the prescription filled out? He was infective during this period, and most likely a day or two before. Nobody goes to the hospital immediately unless they know a situation is life or limb threatening do they? Did he know or did he assume he was just a little unwell and wait? Who else did he interact with during this time period?
    He returns home. By car, bus or train or on foot? Was he feverish and sweating? Did he vomit?
    For the next two days he is at home, who visited that home?
    Finally, an ambulance is called and he is taken back to the hospital. There would have been direct contact with the emergency team that attended to collect him, and the emergency team at the hospital. Those two groups of people alone amount to more than a dozen.
    Whilst writing this article new details have emerged. Thomas Duncan shared a house in Monrovia with the Williams family. On September 15th he helped move a stricken woman to the hospital. He was in the cab with her. She was turned away from the hospital and returned home, helped from the cab by Duncan and her brother and father.
    “He was holding her by the legs, the pa was holding her arms and Sonny Boy was holding her back,” said Arren Seyou, 31, who witnessed the scene and occupies the room next to Mr. Duncan’s.
    Sonny Boy, 21, also started getting sick about a week ago, his family said, around the same time that Mr. Duncan first started showing symptoms. (my emphasis)
    In a sign of how furiously the disease can spread, an ambulance had come to their house on Wednesday to pick up Sonny Boy. Another ambulance picked up a woman and her daughter from the same area, and a team of body collectors came to retrieve the body of yet another woman — all four appeared to have been infected in a chain reaction started by Marthalene Williams.
    A few minutes after the ambulance left, the parents got a call telling them that Sonny Boy had died on the way to the hospital. (source)
    Its very likely Thomas Duncan knew he had been infected with Ebola and that he decided to leave Liberia to secure better treatment in the United States. Why the hell didn’t he go right to the hospital when he arrived? Why take the chance? Depending on the outcome for Thomas Duncan we may never know.
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    Liz

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    Thomas Duncan knew he had Ebola when he left Liberia
    « Reply #1 on: October 03, 2014, 02:05:46 AM »
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  • It’s official! The first case of Ebola has been CONFIRMED in Dallas, Texas! Prepare!
     
    We knew it was coming (likely already here) however the main stream media has finally admitted its arrival. That fact aside I also came into some breaking information on Ebola and proof that the entire thing is not only man-engineered as a bio-weapon but also the people who are behind it Bill Gates and George Soros–two elite globalists who’s desire it is to depopulate the earth to 500 million persons and who will attempt to do so using the Ebola virus as their weapon and now we have proof!
     
    I must warn you the information contained in the video below will rock your world and is likely to be removed by the elite themselves, so please proceed with caution…
     

     
    “First, we’ve got population. The world today has 6.8 billion people. That’s headed up to about nine billion. Now, if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by, perhaps, 10 or 15 percent, but there we see an increase of about 1.3.” Bill Gates TED Talk
     
    “If I were reincarnated, I would wish to be returned to Earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels.” Price Phillip, Duke of Edinburg
     
    “Depopulation should be the highest priority of U.S. foreign policy towards the Third World.” Henry Kissinger
     
    “Society has no business to permit degenerates to reproduce their kind” Theodore Roosevelt
     
    “A total world population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal.” Ted Turner, in an interview with Audubon magazine
     
    “There is a single theme behind all our work–we must reduce population levels. Either governments do it our way, through nice clean methods, or they will get the kinds of mess that we have in El Salvador, or in Iran or in Beirut. Population is a political problem. Once population is out of control, it requires authoritarian government, even fascism, to reduce it….”“Our program in El Salvador didn’t work. The infrastructure was not there to support it. There were just too goddamned many people…. To really reduce population, quickly, you have to pull all the males into the fighting and you have to kill significant numbers of fertile age females….” “The quickest way to reduce population is through famine, like in Africa, or through disease like the Black Death….” Thomas Ferguson, State Department Office of Population Affairs
     
    “In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill…. But in designating them as the enemy, we fall into the trap of mistaking symptoms for causes. All these dangers are caused by human intervention and it is only through changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome. The real enemy, then, is humanity itself.” Alexander King, Bertrand Schneider – Founder and Secretary, respectively, The Club of Rome, The First Global Revolution, pgs 104-105, 1991
     
    “A cancer is an uncontrolled multiplication of cells; the population explosion is an uncontrolled multiplication of people…. We must shift our efforts from the treatment of the symptoms to the cutting out of the cancer. The operation will demand many apparently brutal and heartless decisions.” Stanford Professor ” Paul Ehrlich in The Population Bomb
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    Thomas Duncan knew he had Ebola when he left Liberia
    « Reply #2 on: October 03, 2014, 02:07:05 AM »
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  • WASHINGTON (Army News Service, Sept. 22, 2014) — The Ebola outbreak is the largest medical emergency since the plague, and the Army is assessing how to respond to this “dire situation,” said the Army’s top general.
    “It is a very bad situation,” Chief of Staff of the Army Gen. Ray Odierno said today, at Google’s office in Washington, D.C., during his first Google hangout, a virtual town hall that lasted more than an hour.
     
    “We just got a team on the ground over there doing an assessment of what is needed,” he said. “It is a medical emergency of proportions we haven’t seen since the plague centuries ago.”
     
    More than 2,800 people are known to have died since late March in the outbreak, according to the latest figures from the աօʀʟd ɦɛaʟtɦ օʀɢaռiʐatɨօռ.
     
    Odierno said the Army is looking at sending logistics personnel and hospitals, with perhaps hospital staff and aviation support later.
     
    “I think the majority, initially, of people going over will be logistics personnel that will be separated from where the disease is, in order to assist in providing support,” he said.
     
    ARMY STRUCTURE
    The world is an increasingly dangerous place and the Army will continue to respond to these threats, Odierno said in the virtual town hall, where he fielded questions from Soldiers in Afghanistan; Fort Hood, Texas; Fort Campbell, Kentucky; and Fort Riley, Kansas.
     
    The Installation Management Command, the Surgeon General’s office, and the chief of staff’s wife Linda Odierno also participated in the event.
     
    “I believe it’s time for us to have a security debate, because of what I call the increased velocity of instability around the world, and the fact that I believe that our requirements are going up, not down,” he said.
     
    The current force strength is at 510,000, he said, although by the end of September 2015, that number will be at 490,000.
     
    Read more here:
     
    http://www.army.mil/article/134178/Odierno__Ebola_largest_medical_emergency_since_plague/
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    Thomas Duncan knew he had Ebola when he left Liberia
    « Reply #3 on: October 03, 2014, 07:38:00 AM »
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  • Quote from: Matthew
    WASHINGTON (Army News Service, Sept. 22, 2014) —
     More than 2,800 people are known to have died since late March in the outbreak, according to the latest figures from the աօʀʟd ɦɛaʟtɦ օʀɢaռiʐatɨօռ.


    Actually, those official numbers are not accurate. Add at least another 1,000 case fatalities up to abut a week ago, because the WHO and African govts of afflicted areas are not counting the number of deaths that occurred outside of clinical settings. Now fast forward to today, and the unrecorded numbers of both case infections and deaths are even higher. The WHO & African govts are lying by omission as to try to maintain order, and up to this point in time, minimize the public knowledge of this Ebola species' severe pathogenicity, hence fatal outcomes. Therefore, this particular outbreak has around an 80% case fatality rate, not a 50-55% CFR as portrayed by the WHO and lying media.This Zaire-species, as recorded in previous outbreaks, has a CFR as high as 90%. Also, take into consideration the case infections and deaths that are not even on the radar, hence Africa's lack of logistics to record all of such cases.

    Read this African doctor's testimony about the omission of another 1,000 deaths of the official case fatality numbers.

    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=784573591606073&substory_index=0&id=100001603180299
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