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« on: November 18, 2015, 10:33:55 AM »
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  • Faked "diary"—written in ball-point pen before ball-point pens were available to the general public (see "Post-War Proliferation" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballpoint_pen)
    judaism101 dot pro boards dot com/thread/13/holocaust-truth-make-free

    Anne Frank's Diary Gains 'Co-Author' in Copyright Move
    The New York Times
    www.nytimes.com/2015/11/14/books/anne-frank-has-a-co-as-diary-gains-co-author-in-legal-move.html

    When Otto Frank first published his daughter's red-checked diary and notebooks, he wrote a prologue assuring readers that the book mostly contained her words, written while hiding from the Nazis in a secret annex of a factory in Amsterdam. But now the Swiss foundation that holds the copyright to "The Diary of Anne Frank" is alerting publishers that her father is not only the editor but also legally the co-author of the celebrated book ... Foundation officials "should think very carefully about the consequences," said Agnès Tricoire, a lawyer in Paris who specializes in intellectual property rights in France, where critics have been the most vociferous and are organizing a challenge. "If you follow their arguments, it means that they have lied for years about the fact that it was only written by Anne Frank."


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    They lied. Surprised?
    « Reply #1 on: November 18, 2015, 10:50:31 AM »
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  •  What the Catholics don't know is that the Liberals are the ones who promotes Anne Frank. I should add that liberals promotes Anne Frank and hollywood holocaust movies with their sons: marxists, anarchists and feminists.

    "Chapter 31 An Illusion of Liberal Catholics

    Amongst the illusions entertained by a certain class of Catholics, there is none more pitiable than the notion that the truth requires a great number of defenders and friends. To these people, numbers seem a synonym for force. They imagine that to multiply heterogenous quantities is to multiply power.

    Now true force—real power, in the physical as in the moral order—consists in intensity, rather than in extension. A greater volume of matter equally intense evidently produces a greater effect, not by reason of the increased volume, but by virtue of the augmented intensities contained in it. It is therefore a rule of sound mechanics to seek to increase the extension and number of forces, but always on the condition that the final result be a real augmentation of their intensities. To be content with an increase without consideration of the value of the increment is not only to accumulate fictitious force, but to expose to paralysis the powers which one does possess by the congestion of an unwieldy mass. The millions of Xerxes' army constituted a force of tremendous extension, but they were of no avail against the vigorous intensity of the Greek three hundred at Thermopylae.

    Faith possesses a power of its own, which it communicates to its friends and defenders. It is not they who give the truth power, but truth which charges them with its own vigor. This on the condition that they use that power in its defense.

    If the defender, under the pretext of better defending the truth, begins to mutilate it, to minimize it, to attenuate it, then he is no longer defending the truth. He is simply defending his own invention, a mere human creation, more or less beautiful in appearance, but having no relation to truth, which is the daughter of Heaven.

    Such is the delusion of which many of our brethren are the unconscious victims, through a detestable contact with Liberalism.

    They imagine, with blinded good faith, that they are defending and propagating Catholicity. But by dint of accommodating it to their own narrow views and feeble courage, in order to make it, they say, more acceptable to the enemy whom they wish to overcome, they do not perceive that they are no longer defending Catholicity, but a thing of their own manufacture, which they naively call Catholicity, but which they ought to call by another name. Poor victims of self-deception, who at the beginning of the battle, in order to win over the enemy, wet their own powder and blunt the edge and the point of their swords! They do not stop to reflect that an edgeless and pointless sword is no longer a weapon, but a useless piece of old iron, and that wet powder cannot be fired.

    Their journals, their books, their discourses veneered with Catholicity but bereft of its spirit and its life—have no more value in the cause of the Faith than the toy swords and pistols of the nursery."


    LIBERALISM IS A SIN
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    They lied. Surprised?
    « Reply #2 on: November 18, 2015, 01:10:15 PM »
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  • Actually, it is liars who promotes lies.

    61 lies in this case...

    Note to readers: It is truly astounding how one person can compact so many misdirections, deceits, illogic and outright lies in so little space.  I decided to back up my charges against catholicunity with verifiable references.  Some of his deceits and raving fit into more than one category. I quoted him verbatim, including his misspelling and mispunctuation. The only changes I made were to reduce his font size to that of a normal person. For reference, Bernie Suarez's Activist Post article that I linked is at: http://www.activistpost.com/2015/11/is-isis-now-the-lifeline-of-the-new-world-order.html

    So, "catholicunity," you are dishonest, a calculating deceiver, a compulsive liar.

    • pretending that blockable ads (if they even existed) absolve your lies
    page 8 11:56pm
    PG went to the link and did not find what you claim: “mark79 - I viewed your link, and there was no immodest links(let alone porn) on the page. catholicunity is just a poor troll.” p.9, 1:04am

    • numerous faked quotes
    "islam is a religion of peace" p.11, 1:45am (no such quote in the linked article)
    "Muslims would never kill 159 europeans" p.11, 1:45am (no such quote in the linked article)
    "The terror are only happening because we attacked them first and the zio are pushing them" p.11, 1:45am (no such quote in the linked article)
    “The liberal says ‘It the best piece written I've read about the Paris attack’” p.16, 6:21pm (Not a quote—a paraphrase should not use quotes)
    "I'm following Jesus because I'm brawling with liberals just like Jesus ate with whores". (sic) p.18, 9:31pm (I never said that.)
    “He also said that ‘it is up to Cathinfo users to decide whater (sic) catholicunity is a liar or not’” p.18, 9:59pm (Not a quote—a paraphrase should not use quotes)


    • Raving
    “Most people who work for Soros and bankers money (liberals, anarchists, antifascists) works for free and are ready to kill the Christians as soon as more "Pants up don't shoot" and more baby drownings shows up in Europe beaches.” p.10, 1:39am
    “You are a pathological muslim lover, a devil worship and a anti-Catholic person who brags about "brawling" with liberals. As long as I live I will expose you and your liberal, satanic and anti-Catholic agenda. Your liberal, Delvish (sic) and anti-Catholic agenda  very clear to me:  to covert muslim terror attacks by blaming the "West bankers" while hiding the fact that Muslims are devil worshipers just like Jews.” p. 20, 12:24pm
    “This post is to Mark 79, the Muslim lover who is the most wicked person on this forum  He will do whatever he can to kiss the muslims in the ass, he will go as far as to say that Muslims are only "prone to violence" but not violent in nature” p.21, 12:37am


    • pretending you read "older articles"
    “Well, of course it doesn't. But look at their older articles, it leads to conclusion that islam is not a terrorist religion…” p.11, 1:57am

    • falsely naming an "editor" and "main sponsor"
    “Oh ! I forgot the most important person on the alternative scene, the EDITOR of the website and contributor of Activistpost, anti-media.com etc  Person #6 Carey Elizabeth Wedler “ p.12, 3:29am (Activist Post lists no editors)
    “Remember the boyfriend of the jewish girl(the guy is also jew) who owns two alternative websites, promotes all liberal causes (specially abortion) and is the main sponsor of the website ActivistPost.com?” p.12, 4:02am (Activist Post lists no sponsors)

    • pretending you were offended by ads that were so offensive you re-posted them here
    page 8 11:56pm
    page 10 1:15am
    page 15, 5:57pm “…BUT I WILL POST NOW TO SHOW THE DISHONESTY AND SICK MIND OF THIS LIBERAL
    Image 1 - http://s3.postimg.org/t7ede95vn/image.png
    Image 2 - http://s3.postimg.org/fp7h1ytqb/image.jpg


    • pretending that a link to one article is a blanket endorsement of everything on the site
    “The liberal pro abortion, pro drugs Activistpost.com is trustworthy” p.19, 11:29pm (I never made any general statement about the trustworthiness of Activist Post. I praised a single worthy article.)

    • straw man claims about what I "believe" when I said and believe nothing even remotely as you claim
    “You are a pathological muslim lover, a devil worship and a anti-Catholic person who brags about "brawling" with liberals. As long as I live I will expose you and your liberal, satanic and anti-Catholic agenda. Your liberal, Delvish and anti-Catholic agenda  very clear to me:  to covert muslim terror attacks by blaming the "West bankers" while hiding the fact that Muslims are devil worshipers just like Jews.” p. 20, 12:24pm
    “This post is to Mark 79, the Muslim lover who is the most wicked person on this forum  He will do whatever he can to kiss the muslims in the ass, he will go as far as to say that Muslims are only "prone to violence" but not violent in nature” p.21, 12:37am
    “You are no Catholic at all, you are only here to spread Anarchist websites such as ActivistPost.com and Anti-media.com which is run by a liberal jew.” p.18, 9:31pm



    • denying you posted any images of objectionable ads
    images posted: p.12, 4:22am and page 15, 5:57pm
    denials posted: “I NEVER POSTED IMAGES OF ADS HERE BEFORE, I SAID ‘I WILL NOT POST SCREEN SHOTS BECAUSE THE IMAGES ARE GRAPHIC’” p.15, 5:57pm
    and “….posted the QUOTES of the ads, not the images.” p.16, 6:38pm


    • numerous outright lies
    “They believe Islam is a religion of peace…” page 8 11:56pm
    “I said this but you ignored…” p.11, 1:45am (Not ignored, I specifically addressed how the Muslims have been manipulated into violence.)
    “The article says that ISIS and goes as far to say Islamics would never gather in a terrorist organization such ISIS.” p.11, 2:10am (The article does not mention Islam, Muslim, or make any such claim.)
    “Let's meet the team behind the anarchist website and another major "alternative" (Leftists pro-abortion ) website such as progressive-gazzette.com which our fellow here cites as ‘good information’.” p.12, 3:08am (I never visted, linked, or cited progressive-gazzette.com.)
    “Instead of saying that you believe in the team that I posted, you try to change the subject by saying my attempt to show the people behind the ActivistPost and DIRECTLY related anarchist websites is wrong” p.14, 5:19pm (Articles may be cross-posted, but there is no evidence that Activist Post is “directly”—same ownership or editorial board— related to any other site.)
    “And the fact that the website, just like yourself, blames everyone but muslims for the attack and they will never name the Muslims, just like yourself, and will never also name the Jews.” p.14, 5:19pm (I blamed Muslims and Jews.)
    “Madrid bomb attack? Globalist plan” p.14, 5:19pm (Madrid was not mentioned by me or in the linked article.)
    “Who are globalists? the jews? muslims? the two combined? NO, says ActivistPost.” P.14, 5:19pm (Activist Post did not name the NWO—a weakness I have mentioned—but neither has Activist Post in any article I have ever read denied that Jews and/or Muslims are among the globalists.)
    “When I said "Islam is a religion of peace", I had to use " " because " " shows IRONY BUT THE ARTICLE SAYS INDIRECTLY THAT ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF PEACE” p.15, 5:57pm (The article says nothing, directly or indirectly, about Islam being a religion of peace. The words Islam, Muslim, and peace do not appear in the article and there is nothing in the article that would cause a rational person to make the inference.)
    “The liberal posts an anarchist article” p.16, 6:21pm (Nothing in the linked Suarez article promoted anarchism. The word does not appear. Synonyms do not appear.)
    “The liberal blames Globalists but never names the jew and the muslims” p.16, 6:21pm (I repeatedly named both Jews and Muslims. I even posted the URL to my Judaism 101 website.)
    “When the liberal team behind the "alternative" anarchist media (a bunch of "spiritual leaders", pro-abortion and pro-drug people which I exposed on pictures and quotes from them) is exposed, the liberal says that is wrong to expose them.” p.16, 6:21pm (I never stated it was “wrong to expose” the people to whom he objects, only that he misrepresented them as ‘main sponsors’ and/or ‘editors’ at the website.)
    “I NEVER POSTED THE IMAGES UP UNTIL you stated that I was lying FAKING ads and quotes.” p.16, 6:38pm (I never said he faked the ads. I block them so I wouldn't know. Interestingly however PG went to the site and found no such ads. See PG’s post on p.9, 1:04am.  I did rightfully accuse him of faking quotes. See his faked quotes documented above.)
    “...PLUS two people from the team behind Anti-media.com (Which you said I was wrong exposing them)” p.16, 6:38pm (I never stated it was “wrong to expose” the people to whom he objects, only that he misrepresented them as ‘main sponsors’ and/or ‘editors’ at the website.)
    “…writes on Activistpost.com on a regular basis, including the editor, Carey Wedler,…” p.16, 6:38pm (Any reader here can go to Activist Post and see for themselves that Activist Post lists no editors.)
    “…including the editor, Carey Wedler, a jewish liberal(Pro-drugs, pro abortion) which posts more than three times a week.” p. 16, 6:38pm (Since I did not recognize her name or byline, I went to Activist Post and note that Wedler posted 6 articles in September, 4 articles in October, and 4 so far in November, not “more than three times a week.” Evidently I have not even read her posts, much less in a position to endorse or damn her.)
    “…but since I don't agree with his anarchist friends,…” p.18, 9:59pm (I have no anarchist friends and I never said I have anarchist friends.)
    “Jews only gave money to ISIS…” p.19, 11:29pm (I carefully stated that BOTH Israel AND the Occupied US government created and funded ISIS. I never said it was “Jews only.)

    For the record, my clear references to Islamic violence (and the frequent instigators of that violence:
    “However, from the outset  the rabbis nurtured Islam to be a monster to use against Christianity. Of course, just as Satan loves to trick his own, the golem often turns on the rabbis. That has;t stopped Israel from trying to pit Islamic sect against Islamic sect, as in this case of ISIL/ISIS/IS. “ p.9, 12:52am

    “During Spain's Reconquista the "Jews" collaborated with their Islamic golem (opening city gates at night so Christians could be murdered in their sleep)…” p.10, 1:28am

    “Indeed, the ISIS bogeyman kills people—that is what Israel and the US government do.” p.14, 4:49pm

    • illogical [insane?] inferences of ill will
    “Everything is "a globalist" plan.” p.14, 5:19pm (hysterical and a straw man)
    “So there's only one way to solve this issue:  you lied and you pretended that you didn't see the ads or I am a liar.” p.15, 5:57pm
    “…but your main goal was to discredit my expose of the #6 people who are behind the websites which promotes the ideas of ActivistPost” p.16, 6:38pm
    (My main goal in this thread is an honest discussion.)
    “SO Anti-media.com never mention the Muslims…” p.16, 6:38pm (Since I have never visited anti-media.com, no honest person, no person of good will, can make any inference about me based on what appears on a site I neither visit nor endorse.)
    “Two people of Anti-media.com team , which  I exposed with photos (one of the writers have satanic tattoos in her hand and the other calls himself "Spiritual leader) writes on ActivistPost.com on a regular basis” p.16, 6:38pm (The only name I recognize is Claire Benish whose work I have seen and regularly criticize. A minority of my criticisms pass moderation, but some have been published. No honest person, no person of good will, can make any negative inference about me based on my criticism of someone who deserves criticism.)
    “You are no Catholic at all, you are only here to spread Anarchist websites such as ActivistPost.com and Anti-media.com which is run by a liberal jew.” p.18, 9:31pm
    “….he is upset and angry.” p.18, 9:59pm (Actually I am not at all emotionally invested in this exchange. I am invested in the truth.)
    “’Islamophobes’ are the beneficiares (sic) of the attacks… Interesting… so the author seems to agree that ‘Islam is not a religion of violence’” p.18, 10:24pm (The referenced article by Makita Freeman does not mention peace, religion of peace, or any similar verbiage. “Peace and abundance” are mentioned in Freeman’s bio, but no connection is made to Islam or Islamophobia)
    “So Islam is not satanic? Are you trying to say Islam is a religion just like Catholicism?” p.19, 11:16pm (No sane and honest person could make such an inference from anything I have ever said anywhere.)
    “Repeating I'm a liar because I exposed: porn-related ads on the activistpost, the liberal and "spiritual leaders" behind activist post AND anti-media.com (people who who writes at anti-media.com writes on activispost.com at least 3 times a week)” p.19, 11:29pm (I identified him as a liar, because… he lied… repeatedly.)
    “you are  anti-Catholic.” p.19, 11:29pm (I am a serious, practicing, traditional Catholic—imperfect, but practicing.)

    • numerous dishonest straw man accusations
    “It was explosions set up by jews? So then the Muslims are innocent.. they never intend to kill Christians.” page 8 12:44am
    “Because then you will have to admit that you believe in one that claims to be "Spiritual leader", other who has tattoos of the Church of Satan in her hand and other who is a Jewish liberal.” p.14, 5:19pm
    “Everything is "a globalist" plan.” p.14, 5:19pm
    (hysterical and a straw man)
    “The globalist is anyone else but jews and muslims.” p.14, 5:19pm
    “….because islamics are not violent by nature” p.19, 11:29pm
    (Quite the contrary, I repeatedly noted Islamic violence… and the instigators.)

    • Incomprehensible verbiage
    “The situation in europe is so bad that you a group of 15 liberals do more harm than George Soros.” p.10,1:39am
    “But if ads above which I won't post a screen shot in public are not bad for your it is for me” p.10, 1:15am


    • Gratuitous claims, completely unreferenced
    “These anarchist websites are funded or supported by bankers themselves, sometimes even their sons owns pro-democracy antifascists organizations.” p.10, 1:39am

    • Astounding non-sequiturs
    “Of course it's a Globalist attack! Muslims would never do that! Their religion does not preach violence...” p.11, 2:10am (No such absolution of Islam in the article.)

    • Conflating Activist Post and Press TV as “the anarchist site”
    p.12, 2:29am

    As I said, "catholicunity," you are dishonest, a calculating deceiver, a compulsive liar.

    Q.E.D.

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    « Reply #3 on: November 18, 2015, 02:01:03 PM »
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  • I write as one whose allotment of down thumbs for catholicunity's comments and thread openers was exhausted two days ago. Even if he were right in his claim that Mark 79 is the spawn of Satan [FACETIOUS PARAPHRASE ALERT!!],* catholicunity may justly be described as having tried most members' patience with his 30-comment-a-day onslaught, not to mention their tolerance for images whose grossness and obscenity cannot help disgusting and offending men and women possessed of even a modicum of Catholic decorum.

    Matthew, come to our rescue. Help us in our hour of need. Please pack the robocommenting clown off to Gates of Vienna or WorldNetDaily, where he'd be among more kindred spirits.

    Addendum to Mark 79: If I were you, I'd consider making a quiet but swift exit from this shooting match. Your self-defense has been sufficiently lengthy and thorough to satisfy all reasonable observers, and your attacker has already emptied several magazines into his foot. As it won't be long before he succeeds in blowing his own head off, you'd do well to be out of splatter range.
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    *For the benefit of those unfamiliar with the use of the subjunctive mood in a contrary-to-fact construction, he isn't. One needn't agree with everything Mark 79 writes or thinks to see that much.

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    « Reply #4 on: November 18, 2015, 02:14:04 PM »
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  • Quote from: claudel
    I write as one whose allotment of down thumbs for catholicunity's comments and thread openers was exhausted two days ago. Even if he were right in his claim that Mark 79 is the spawn of Satan [FACETIOUS PARAPHRASE ALERT!!],* catholicunity may justly be described as having tried most members' patience with his 30-comment-a-day onslaught, not to mention their tolerance for images whose grossness and obscenity cannot help disgusting and offending men and women possessed of even a modicum of Catholic decorum.

    Matthew, come to our rescue. Help us in our hour of need. Please pack the robocommenting clown off to Gates of Vienna or WorldNetDaily, where he'd be among more kindred spirits.

    Addendum to Mark 79: If I were you, I'd consider making a quiet but swift exit from this shooting match. Your self-defense has been sufficiently lengthy and thorough to satisfy all reasonable observers, and your attacker has already emptied several magazines into his foot. As it won't be long before he succeeds in blowing his own head off, you'd do well to be out of splatter range.
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    *For the benefit of those unfamiliar with the use of the subjunctive mood in a contrary-to-fact construction, he isn't. One needn't agree with everything Mark 79 writes or thinks to see that much.


    Agreed!   ...and thank you!


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    « Reply #5 on: November 18, 2015, 02:25:47 PM »
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    Mark 79, I don't know what thread you're referring to in your post here.

    These page numbers and times (am and pm) are referring to what?

    page 8 11:56pm
    p.9, 1:04am
    p.11, 1:45am
    p.11, 1:45am (no such quote in the linked article)
    p.11, 1:45am (no such quote in the linked article)
    p.16, 6:21pm (Not a quote—a paraphrase should not use quotes)
    p.18, 9:31pm (I never said that.)
    p.18, 9:59pm
    (etc)...

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    « Reply #6 on: November 18, 2015, 03:00:42 PM »
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  • Quote from: Mark 79
    Quote from: claudel
    I write as one whose allotment of down thumbs for catholicunity's comments and thread openers was exhausted two days ago. Even if he were right in his claim that Mark 79 is the spawn of Satan [FACETIOUS PARAPHRASE ALERT!!],* catholicunity may justly be described as having tried most members' patience with his 30-comment-a-day onslaught, not to mention their tolerance for images whose grossness and obscenity cannot help disgusting and offending men and women possessed of even a modicum of Catholic decorum.

    Matthew, come to our rescue. Help us in our hour of need. Please pack the robocommenting clown off to Gates of Vienna or WorldNetDaily, where he'd be among more kindred spirits.

    Addendum to Mark 79: If I were you, I'd consider making a quiet but swift exit from this shooting match. Your self-defense has been sufficiently lengthy and thorough to satisfy all reasonable observers, and your attacker has already emptied several magazines into his foot. As it won't be long before he succeeds in blowing his own head off, you'd do well to be out of splatter range.
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    *For the benefit of those unfamiliar with the use of the subjunctive mood in a contrary-to-fact construction, he isn't. One needn't agree with everything Mark 79 writes or thinks to see that much.


    Agreed!   ...and thank you!

    You can both rest easy now -- catholicunity has been banned.

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    « Reply #7 on: November 18, 2015, 05:11:24 PM »
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  • Quote from: Neil Obstat
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    Mark 79, I don't know what thread you're referring to in your post here.

    These page numbers and times (am and pm) are referring to what?

    page 8 11:56pm
    p.9, 1:04am
    p.11, 1:45am
    p.11, 1:45am (no such quote in the linked article)
    p.11, 1:45am (no such quote in the linked article)
    p.16, 6:21pm (Not a quote—a paraphrase should not use quotes)
    p.18, 9:31pm (I never said that.)
    p.18, 9:59pm
    (etc)...



    They refer to the Paris Under Attack thread. It is not worth your time to wade through the bilge. Nothing salutary at all. I spent more time on it than it was worth simply to consolidate references to the outrages.


     

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