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They have lost all sense of shame!
« on: December 11, 2007, 09:06:33 AM »
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  • Worse -- they have twisted something shameful into a badge of pride!  I think we have the devil at work here...

     ATLANTA, Georgia (CNN) -- On a Facebook group that celebrates young women getting drunk, there's no such thing as going too far.

    A Facebook page where young women post drunken images of themselves has nearly 5,000 photos.

    One young woman dances on top of a bar. Another sits on the toilet drinking a beer. Several vomit. One appears with a bruised and bandaged face ("I just got drunk and fell out of a car," she writes.). In another photo, two women urinate into a waterfall.

    What you won't find on this page -- called "Thirty Reasons Girls Should Call it a Night" -- is humiliation and embarrassment. For the most part, the women post the photos themselves, seemingly with pride. This makes many adults -- teachers, counselors, parents -- worry that students aren't thinking through the consequences of showing themselves drunk to the world.

    Many photos on the site are accompanied by full names and the colleges the women attend, apparently without much concern that parents, or potential employers, will take a look.

    "You can't overstate how unthinking these kids are at 18, 19, 20 years old," said Robert L. Carothers, president of the University of Rhode Island, and a former member of the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism's Committee on Campus Drinking. "They're not a thoughtful bunch, by and large."

    But a moderator of the group, who asked that her name not be used, said not to take it too seriously. "It's just something fun to do," she said. "You need to be able to laugh at yourself sometimes."

    Carothers said that at URI, advisers tell students not to post photos of themselves drunk, reminding them these pictures can be accessed for years to come.

    Often, he says, students don't listen. "I've told them, 'Look, these pictures are evidence you're doing something illegal,' and mainly they say 'Oh, I never thought about that.' Sometimes they say, 'That's who I am,' " Carothers said.

    Forty percent of college students binge drink, according to a report this year by the Center on Alcohol and Substance Abuse. The report lists many ramifications of college binge drinking, including injuries, sɛҳuąƖ violence and vandalism. In addition, college students who reported having considered ѕυιcιdє were more likely to be active binge drinkers.

    The Facebook group doesn't talk much about these problems. It has more than 172,000 members, and nearly 5,000 photos.

    The group's moderator said she knows some people look down on her and other women in the group, but it doesn't bother her.

    "[They think we're] sloppy, unladylike, low class,'" she wrote in a recent instant message conversation. "[But] I've noticed when college boys do stupid things when they're drunk, they're just being boys."

    The moderator has posted two photos of herself on the site: one with two beer bottles in her mouth, and another of her lying in the fetal position next to a toilet.

    She said it does worry her that future employers could see these photos when she applies for a job. "I know an employer won't [realize] I know how to separate work and personal time, and I have no intentions of being wrapped around a toilet at a job."

    Another member of the Facebook group is more cautious. Laura, a 22-year-old business major, took down a drunken video of herself after being contacted by CNN for an interview, saying the request made her realize anyone could see her video.

    She'd already made changes on her MySpace page after her parents saw a video there of her drinking. She made her MySpace page private, so only invited friends could look.

    "It's good [my parents] saw it," said Laura, who asked that her last name not be used. "It's better they saw it than a potential employer."
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    They have lost all sense of shame!
    « Reply #1 on: December 11, 2007, 09:08:31 AM »
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  • I should also point out that Facebook is not just your average teenager's website.

    If you look at how the site was funded -- there are US intelligence agency connections. When you observe how EVERY CHANGE TO YOUR PROFILE IS LOGGED, including all your connections to other people -- it's way too much of a privacy breech for me.

    And I have my complete physical address on the Internet (I'm not exactly careful about privacy.) But I'm not going to go THAT far!

    It's interesting how only the young people are getting used to having NO privacy. They have cell phones (so they're never alone -- they could easily be tracked using GPS), tell everything to the world via MySpace and Facebook, etc.

    At school they're used to being scanned, chipped, tracked. Does this make you worried about the future?

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    They have lost all sense of shame!
    « Reply #2 on: December 11, 2007, 09:41:02 AM »
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  • Matthew,

    Do you still have the link to that flash video that tells about the intelligence connections to facebook?  I think there was a link somewhere around here for it, but I can't remember where it is now.

    Thanks,

    Pinoy Monk
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    They have lost all sense of shame!
    « Reply #3 on: December 11, 2007, 10:07:52 AM »
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  • Nevermind.  I found it:

    http://albumoftheday.com/facebook/
    "In this difficult time, to be victorious, we must be steadfast using all of our strength and capabilities like brave soldiers fully armed in the battlefield ... Whatever happens, behave in such a way that God will be glorified."

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