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Offline s2srea

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These moles are getting annoying
« on: October 29, 2011, 12:15:26 PM »
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  • I don't think its only I who sees the recent increase of moles to this site. We've usually had one come on, get kicked off, and that was it for a while. It seems as if this time, there's a total influx since Capistrano showed his face the first time. Among others, romantheology,  aquinasg, PetrusPrimus, and others, stand out since they're all members who have "Joined" dates from at least a year ago, yet have never posted and who now all post at the same time.

    Buuuut... whatchagonnado? :idea:

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    These moles are getting annoying
    « Reply #1 on: October 29, 2011, 12:22:58 PM »
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  • Correction, romantheology is a newer member. But his activity does seem suspicious, as the others. There's a definite agenda going on. When a member joins a forum, and immediately begins posting propaganda, its not normal.

    Capistrano, tradition1987, romantheology, and others all joined within a few days of each other.


    Offline Diego

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    These moles are getting annoying
    « Reply #2 on: October 29, 2011, 12:47:42 PM »
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  • The level of suspicion here is unhealthy.

    Offline ServusSpiritusSancti

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    These moles are getting annoying
    « Reply #3 on: October 29, 2011, 01:26:40 PM »
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  • tradition1987 is tomas on another account. He should be banned for signing up on multiple accounts and for posting disturbing pictures. I don't know who romantheology is but he's an odd character. He says he likes the SSPX but turns around and praises JPII and tries to make it look like Archbishop LeFebvre denied Church doctrine. He also seems obsessed with cutting down sedevacantism, the CMRI in particular.

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    « Reply #4 on: October 29, 2011, 01:55:44 PM »
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  • These moles have no apparent interest in fostering faith or piety; it seems all they are here to do is start fights. I suggest not only a ban on those who are violating the rule about multiple accounts, but an examination by the forum owner into what actual, useful and reverent purpose these people's posts actually serve.

    See, it's times like these, when there are seemingly countless 'armchair prelates' around, when we who are faithful to the Church need to 'circle the wagons', so to speak, and concentrate on encouraging one another in the Faith.

    I want to see more of those wonderful scans in the Library section like Hobbledehoy was contributing. I want to see more pictures of beautiful altars and shrines. I want to hear about people's devotions, maybe a thread about vintage sacramentals... come on! You know, the things that make us not only spiritually and formally Catholic, but also the things that are the lovely, pious and praiseworthy fruits of Catholic culture.

    Let's have some stories of wonderful books you've read about the saints (I am into one right now about Mother Cabrini). Let's have some more UPLIFTING discussions about the sublime truths that Holy Church teaches.

    Enough of the scandal-mongering and mud-slinging and name-calling. Let's leave the conspirators who want to besmirch Tradition to themselves. Let them start their OWN forum where they can slander our holy Bishops and faithful priests on their OWN bandwidth.

    This is supposed to be a forum where we discuss matters pertinent to the Catholic FAITH, not just news pertinent to any- and everything remotely called 'Catholic'.

    Can we please get INTO the Faith instead of lowering ourselves to the gutter of sensationalism and animosity with these trolls?

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    Offline Raoul76

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    « Reply #5 on: October 29, 2011, 02:21:49 PM »
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  • Actually, S2srea, this site has always had the trolls.

    I think Matthew leaves them on up to a certain point because they stimulate discussion.  The most infamous example is roscoe, a troll with diplomatic immunity, the James Bond of CathInfo with a license to troll.

    Then there is the guy who calls himself Pope Augustine or the Great Monarch.  Believe it or not, he plays a game with me in particular.  I believe he wants me to come off as paranoid.  So he takes on various characters and blends in.  I am 99.9% sure that Matto, who was here a while ago, was Augustine, and I'm about 85% sure with curiouscatholic.  

    I have decided that unless he says something against the faith, I'll just leave it alone, since it's not harming anyone until the mockery is overt.  Of course this defeats the whole purpose, because mockery is what he's here for.  Feed a cold, starve a fever.  He can't win; if he descends into open mockery, he'll be discovered; if he just blends in, there's no point.  

    But as Matthew knows, this guy is not just playing a harmless joke, he once posted an explicit drawing of a naked woman.  That's the sort of thing that could get someone to commit a mortal sin. Then, if I'm not mistaken, he tried to erase it, after I had said something, so that I'd look like a lunatic who was seeing explicit pictures of naked women when there were none.  I don't remember precisely if he did that but I have a vague memory of it; Matthew might remember better.

    This kind of hounding that I've always dealt with on this forum led me to get so paranoid that, if you remember Ladislaus, I began to believe him that Matthew and Caminus were the same person and that Matthew had a split personality.  There is an object lesson in what paranoia can do.

    Yes, I think Matthew could and should be more anti-troll.  But the site has a tendency to slow down without them, that is the problem.  If there were more solid members I'm pretty sure he'd crack down harder on trolls.



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    « Reply #6 on: October 29, 2011, 02:42:03 PM »
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  • To those who would like more peaceful discussions sharing info about devotions, etc. --

    I would just say, "This forum is whatever YOU make it." If even ONE person started posted what they wanted to see, the forum would move toward their "vision" by a pretty decent-sized step.

    I'm sure there are sayings out there that would be appropriate -- "BE the change you wish to see" or something to that effect -- even "Rather than curse the darkness, light a candle."



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    Offline Caminus

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    « Reply #7 on: October 29, 2011, 03:15:14 PM »
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  • I don't mind the pro-novus ordo poster, it gives one a chance to sharpen their sword.  At least Santo tries, but he doesn't follow through enough, the rest just seem like dingbats who aren't interested in discussion.  


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    « Reply #8 on: October 29, 2011, 03:55:09 PM »
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  • What are we supposed to do in the world? Be quietists? Or engage it? Some are called to the contemplative life; some are not.  That was true even in Cristendom when the synagogue, not the Church, was confined to the ghettos.

    Certainly I welcome discussion of spiritually uplifting books and images, but I also welcome the sometimes combative discussion of points of history and theology that help me understand the world my children and I live in and how we are to live in it.

    I am currently thoroughly enjoying a book authored by a gent with whom I have had fierce disagreements. If I had segregated myself from him simply because we had strongly contended, I would be the loser for not being edified by his excellent book:

    The Church and the Libertarian
    by Christopher Ferrara

    The book helps make my point.  We live in a world in which nominal Catholics are seducing Catholics with their "free market" apologia for usury. Is it not a Spiritual Work of Mercy to confront the errors? to help Catholics understand the errors of libertarianism? To find the world as it is and to make it more Catholic?

    One wonders how segregation is a reasonable solution.

    I see dozens upon dozens of posts. I frequent the ones that interest me and avoid the ones that don't.

    Frankly, I think the most spiritually destructive force here is a level of suspicion that, in my opinion, approaches clinical paranoia.

    I don't live in a Catholic ghetto, a trad ghetto, or a sede ghetto. Or the catacombs.

    Offline ServusSpiritusSancti

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    « Reply #9 on: October 29, 2011, 04:07:09 PM »
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  • Quote from: Matthew
    To those who would like more peaceful discussions sharing info about devotions, etc. --

    I would just say, "This forum is whatever YOU make it." If even ONE person started posted what they wanted to see, the forum would move toward their "vision" by a pretty decent-sized step.

    I'm sure there are sayings out there that would be appropriate -- "BE the change you wish to see" or something to that effect -- even "Rather than curse the darkness, light a candle."


    Matthew, could you atleast delete this disturbing picture that tradition1987 posted? I'll post the link to the thread for you to delete it, but be warned the picture he posted of lucifer is incredibly disturbing, that's why I suggest you delete it and the thread.

    http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/Vatican-names-its-new-telescope-LUCIFER

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    These moles are getting annoying
    « Reply #10 on: October 30, 2011, 01:11:48 AM »
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  • Quote from: SpiritusSanctus
    tradition1987 is tomas on another account. He should be banned for signing up on multiple accounts and for posting disturbing pictures. I don't know who romantheology is but he's an odd character. He says he likes the SSPX but turns around and praises JPII and tries to make it look like Archbishop LeFebvre denied Church doctrine. He also seems obsessed with cutting down sedevacantism, the CMRI in particular.


    Sounds like my kinda guy.


    Offline Iuvenalis

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    « Reply #11 on: October 30, 2011, 11:18:22 AM »
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  • "Moles" gives them too much credit (and power). It implies they are part of some larger, concerted effort that collaborates or is organized, taking orders from somewhere.

    These are good ol' freelancing trolls.

    Welcome to the Internet and forums generally.

    Same truths apply at CI as any Inet forum: "Don't feed the trolls"

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    « Reply #12 on: October 30, 2011, 12:58:38 PM »
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  • Quote from: Iuvenalis
    Same truths apply at CI as any Inet forum: "Don't feed the trolls"


    Yup. If they're just obnoxious, put them on ignore and if they're posting something entirely unacceptable, PM the moderator.

    You can't easily remove the troll element from a forum. And, I think s2s and Raoul demonstrate why in pointing to members whom I seriously doubt are trolls such as PetrusPrimus, Matto, Diego, & curiouscatholic.

    I'd rather have a mostly harmless troll or two get away with posting than to ban people who aren't trolls at all.
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    « Reply #13 on: October 30, 2011, 01:19:17 PM »
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  • Oh, I left off aquinasg. Half the guy's posts have been asking for prayers for his family and he signed his earlier ones with his full name. Why do you think he's a troll?
    "If I could only make the faithful sing the Kyrie, the Gloria, the Credo, the Sanctus and the Agnus Dei ... that would be to me the finest triumph sacred music could have, for it is in really taking part in the liturgy that the faithful will preserve their devotion. I would take the Tantum ...

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    « Reply #14 on: October 30, 2011, 01:49:04 PM »
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  • Until you've been attacked by the real thing (mole, not troll) in your front yard, you have no idea what annoying is!

     

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