The SSPX Harvest is Large in Eastern Europe

While the neo-conservative Polish Bishops lead the country slowly into the abyss, the apostolate of the SSPX blooms in the land.



 (kreuz.net) The apostlate of the Society of St. Pius X is growing "surprisingly fast" even for the conditions of the Society.

This was written by the District Superior for East Europe, Fr. Karl Stehlin in his Christmas letter.

The Society can only devote twelve priests in eastern Europe.  Actually, the present pastoral work would require thirty priests -- so says Father Stehlin.

In Warsaw the Fathers will be shortly leading a third old Mass on Sunday.

Every week there are about four hundred Catholics who appear for Mass -- doubled the number as there were two years ago.

http://eponymousflower.blogspot.com/2012/01/sspx-harvest-is-large-in-eastern-europe.html

Quote from: Augstine Baker

The SSPX Harvest is Large in Eastern Europe

While the neo-conservative Polish Bishops lead the country slowly into the abyss, the apostolate of the SSPX blooms in the land.



 (kreuz.net) The apostlate of the Society of St. Pius X is growing "surprisingly fast" even for the conditions of the Society.

This was written by the District Superior for East Europe, Fr. Karl Stehlin in his Christmas letter.

The Society can only devote twelve priests in eastern Europe.  Actually, the present pastoral work would require thirty priests -- so says Father Stehlin.

In Warsaw the Fathers will be shortly leading a third old Mass on Sunday.

Every week there are about four hundred Catholics who appear for Mass -- doubled the number as there were two years ago.

http://eponymousflower.blogspot.com/2012/01/sspx-harvest-is-large-in-eastern-europe.html

The SSPX harvest, or the Catholic Church harvest of souls?   God did not die and leave the care of the Church to the SSPX.  All true traditional Catholic priests and bishops, and there are others besides those affiliated with the SSPX, constitute the remnant church.
This kind of thinking is what disgusts me about the SSPX.  They think they are the  "saviors "of the church.  They are now being tested and winnowed, and some will be found wanting in their faith.

Not so sure about that:

1) There are, by definition, none in the Novus Ordo/Conciliar Church who can be said to have retained the Faith, and teach/practice it publicly;

2) Schismatics also do not form part of the Catholic CHurch, so that rules out all sedevacantists;

3) None of the indult groups accept the full corpus of traditional Catholic doctrine.

So what is left?

The SSPX (and their affiliates), and a few non-schismatic independant priests.

Therefore, I do not think it much of an overstatement to assert that God's providence has indeed left the safeguarding of the Catholic Faith to the SSPX.

Feel free to flame away; I will not respond.

The SSPX harvest, or the Catholic Church harvest of souls?   God did not die and leave the care of the Church to the SSPX.  All true traditional Catholic priests and bishops, and there are others besides those affiliated with the SSPX, constitute the remnant church.
This kind of thinking is what disgusts me about the SSPX.  They think they are the  "saviors "of the church.  They are now being tested and winnowed, and some will be found wanting in their faith.

Well said Emerentiana!

Everyone, pease don't mind Seraphim's comments. I actually approve of the SSPX, and while his type of commentary isn't all that uncommon in their forums, its a totally absurd and ignorant one.

Read the recent Elesion Comments; +Williamson himself disagrees with this stance.

Truth over Society.

Only here could good news like this be turned a reason to attack the Society and promote subjective grievances and vicarious doubts.

While we are deploring things, you seem to have missed that in turn a sectarian found an opportunity to attack sedevacantists. Don't know how you could have missed that but have a look.

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Only here could good news like this be turned a reason to attack the Society and promote subjective grievances and vicarious doubts.

Im not attacking the Society.  I just dont like their "Savior" mentality.
There is a harvest of souls everywhere, even in this country.
Im objecting to your view that the SSPX is the only traditional group of importance.  BTW, they were  not the first group.
Perhaps you dont know that right after the canon of the mass changed in 1969, the faithful traditional Catholics who refused to go along with the invalid mass had few places to go for mass.
Mass was said by a few older independent priests.
The CMRI was formed in 1968, several years before the  formation of the SSPX
Please keep in mind that ALL traditional priests throughout the world work  in the harvest of souls.

If pointing out the obvious problems and some of the solutions is having a "savior mentality", we need more of that.

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Only here could good news like this be turned a reason to attack the Society and promote subjective grievances and vicarious doubts.

While we are deploring things, you seem to have missed that in turn a sectarian found an opportunity to attack sedevacantists. Don't know how you could have missed that but have a look.

Who cares about sedevantists?  

I don't.

God cares, their fellow Catholics care.

You don't care because you are a divisive sectarian.

There have been many times where schismatic and heretical sects have done quite well in the "harvest". So, this thread will certainly appeal to SSPXers.

However, it is a false principle to make people think that they have the true doctrinal position BECAUSE of their numbers. The Antichrist in the end is supposed to have the numbers too, and the Novus Ordo does, too.

What is the ultimate principle is WHAT ARE THE DOCTRINES and do they conform to tradition or not? The SSPX harvest is unfortunately sowing doctrinal error, making the harvest more sad precisely because of the numbers.

Huh?  SSPX sews error?  Like what, for example?

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Only here could good news like this be turned a reason to attack the Society and promote subjective grievances and vicarious doubts.

While we are deploring things, you seem to have missed that in turn a sectarian found an opportunity to attack sedevacantists. Don't know how you could have missed that but have a look.

Who cares about sedevantists?  

I don't.

God cares, their fellow Catholics care.

You don't care because you are a divisive sectarian.

You say God cares?  I doubt that He does.  You're just a guy on the internet, you have no authority to determine who's Catholic or not.

It does not require any authority to say God cares about his Catholics. It only requires some very basic knowledge.

I know that I can't declare with authority who's Catholic or not. But that is an irrelevant red herring, because I have not even claimed to have done that.

However I said what I did about you because you have shown us that you are divisive and that you have a sectarian mentality.

You just called me a sectarian, which assumes that I'm not Catholic.

It's not a red herring at all.  At the very least you're committing slander at the worst it's an uncharitable act.