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Offline Neil Obstat

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This topic came up on another thread.

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I asked about it once, and I was told that the flag in the sanctuary is an explicit "statement" that Church and State should be united, not separated...
 


I am sure that many of the sspx faithful have asked a similar question over the years.  If the flag is an "explicit statement,"  then one would think that at least one sermon, or a portion of one, in the 50 year history of the SSPX might have been dedicated to such an explanation.  I have never heard one.  Have any of you ever heard a sermon which develops this theme?  


It would seem my priest had read your post, hollingsworth, before
he gave his sermon today, but that couldn't be since he gave it 6
hours before you posted this.  See below.

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My feeling has always been that the Americanist-oriented Church, including the sspx, has [always] wanted to assure the public at large that American Catholics are [patriotic], law abiding citizens, who basically, in every instance, support the domestic and foreign agenda of the U.S.     If the latent meaning of the flag in the Sanctuary is as Matthew understands it,  then there are probably many of us who don't know that, and would never even have imagined it without some kind of a clear explanation.  It doesn't necessarily jump out at one.



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...I couldn't argue with that.

Before I looked into it, I assumed the same thing (Americanism).


It might be helpful if Matthew could remember who it was that
provided that answer to him.

[My comments in brackets...]

My priest today explained that the Kingship of Our Lord Jesus Christ
as explained in Quas Primas of Pope Pius XI [and as expounded in the
writings of Fr. Denis Fahey BTW -- the Social Kingship of Our Lord
Jesus Christ], was the idea behind the establishment of the Feast of
Christ the King on the LAST SUNDAY OF OCTOBER, which we maintain
in our traditional calendar.  

He said that Paul VI (whose name is not mentioned in polite company)
had a meeting with protestant ministers, which is a docuмented fact
because there was exactly such a group who drew up the NovusOrdo
Newmass, and he asked them about this idea of the Kingship of Our
Lord.  

The answer they came up with is yes, they acknowledge the Kingship
of Jesus too, however, there was a problem with protestants co-
celebrating such a "Feast Day" together with Catholics when it's on
the last Sunday of October, because then there is a time, about 4 or
5 weeks before the end of the liturgical year (which Advent makes
somewhat unmovable) due to the reality that this period of time would
mean that this agreed-upon Kingship is something that applies to
this world before the END OF THE WORLD, and as such, it would be
the Catholic Church whose AUTHORITY is implied or even necessary
by such an acknowledgement.  The protestants could not abide by
recognizing the authority of the Catholic Church.  

Therefore, they proposed a COMPROMISE, by which the Pope would
MOVE this feast day to the last Sunday in NOVEMBER, and then the
protestants would be happy with that, as it would extinguish the
temporal aspect (Read: the SOCIAL Kingship of Our Lord), and
then, [as Rodney King said, "Can't we all just get along?"] this new
place would allow for a 'concelebration' of this feast [even though
most protestants abhor the notion of any "feast day" whatsoever].

[One is left wondering if the principle of concelebration per se may
well be traceable to this 'deal' between Modernist Rome and the
Modernist Protestants.]

[Perhaps someone else can research the time when the move was made
of October to November.]

He said that when Pius XI issued Quas Primas, "it was the biggest non-
event in the history of the Church," because worldwide, bishops, and
almost conspicuously American Bishops, turned a DEAF EAR to this
and did NOTHING to carry it out, beyond having Christ the King on the
appointed Sunday -- but that didn't last for long!!!!!

He said that this doctrine of Holy Mother Church is not reformable.  The
RIGHT OF GOD is to have the Catholic Church as the One, True Church
outside of which there is no salvation [a dogma of the Faith defined no
less that 3 times, and pronounced numerous other times ever since
the Apostles] as the acknowledged authority for ALL NATIONS in the
world [actually, in the universe].

Our Lord Jesus Christ has the INALIENABLE RIGHT to be King of every
nation, every state, every county, every principality, every city, every
group of men and EVERY HUMAN CREATURE in the world [universe].

"It is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human
creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff"
- ex cathedra,
Pope Innocent III, Fourth Lateran Council, A.D. 1215, Denz. 802.

There is absolutely no reason that any false religion (such as
protestantism, Islam (Mohammedanism), Judaism, Buddhism, etc.)
should be allowed to practice their false creed in public anywhere on
planet Earth [or in the universe].

As such, the Catholic Faith should be the acknowledged religion of
state everywhere without exception.  It is the right of God for this to
be, and we have no right to upstage the rights of God.

He did not mention the flag in the sanctuary, however, nor did we have
one while he was giving this sermon.


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« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2013, 08:15:21 PM »
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    This was an excellent sermon.

    I don't think there was any recording, unfortunately.  

    Of what I can remember, Fr. said that "We are the salt of the earth."  And
    lest we be cast out and trodden underfoot by the Freemasons, we ought
    to be promoting the reign of Christ the King in our world.

    This time of year, between October and the beginning of Advent, is the
    time when it should be foremost in our minds.  

    The Social Kingship of Our Lord Jesus Christ is our responsibility.  And
    any Catholic who does not live in such a way so as to promote it is
    failing in his daily duty as a Catholic.

    People think all too often, and especially Traditional Catholics, that we
    can 'get along' with error and heresy, and we can tolerate social evils
    because, after all, the world has too many problems.  We can't solve
    them all.  Well, true, we can't, but with God's help we can do anything.

    The Roman Empire lasted for many centuries, and the thing that it had
    going for it was the rise of the Church, as the Holy Roman Empire.  But
    the United States of America falls way short of that ideal, since from
    its inception it did not acknowledge the rights of God.  They are nowhere
    in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights, but rather only the 'rights of man'
    are to be found there.  As such, this country is facing a fate that may  
    render its duration something like one-tenth that of the Roman Empire.

    I was rather pleased to see how closely this sermon squares with the
    lecture given by the great Fr. Francois Chazal in Boston KY this past
    week, video linked here, even though when I mentioned it to my priest
    after Mass, he had not heard of it.

    I only had a moment to speak with him, as he was in a hurry to leave
    to another appointment, but I was actually surprised to find that he
    was not aware of Fr. Chazal's lecture, or of the fact that the new
    seminary at Our Lady of Mount Carmel chapel in KY is now operational.  

    When I tried to be brief by saying that the great Fr. Chazal said that
    in his work in the Philippines and in India, the entire governmental
    edifice is entirely infested with Freemasons, but they are not all that
    hostile to his work as a Catholic Priest there, he retorted against this,
    saying that Freemasons among the Bishops of the Church and in the
    Vatican are absolutely devil worshipers and do not brook any restraint
    in their nefarious activities to destroy God's Church.  I knew I had to
    get to the point, so I did.  I said that Freemasons offered Fr. Chazal
    money to help him with his missions, but he could not accept it, for
    then he would be held to be appreciative of this and would have to
    reciprocate with their requests for his help in the future.  The great
    Fr. Chazal is not about to be owned by Freemasons.

    We are very fortunate to have such priests in the Resistance, those who
    not only can see that the work of the Masons is subtle, and is not
    always openly hateful of the Church, but desires to give a deceptive
    appearance, one of 'humanitarian' and 'freedom-loving', in imitation of
    the CHARITY of God's Church, but without any RELIGIOUS DOCTRINE.

    I would like to develop this principle in light of the writings of the
    great Fr. Denis Fahey, C.S.Sp.


    Maybe John Grace or soulguard or stgobnait are familiar with their
    countryman's work, since he is IRISH.  


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    « Reply #2 on: November 10, 2013, 09:00:35 PM »
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    The sermon today to which I refer lasted about 25 minutes, and
    all I can do is recall portions of it from memory.  

    Fr. said that it has always been the work of Freemasons to destroy
    the Church.  He said that Quas Primas came to us by a good pope
    in the wake of the devastating World War I.  At the time, they only
    called it "THE GREAT WAR" because there had never been anything
    like it in history.  All of Europe was torn asunder.  For miles and for
    hundreds of miles in all directions, France, Spain, Germany were
    pitted with enormous holes of poison and death.  These "toxic
    cesspools"
    were everywhere.

    From out of this open wound on the land, the doctrine of the Kingship
    of Our Lord Jesus Christ was meant to be a healing balm, but the
    Catholic bishops missed their cue -- and why would they have done
    so?  The answer is in their corruption by Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ.  There were
    many bishops who were perhaps Masons, but there were many more
    whose literal membership was a moot point, in fact, their non-
    membership was used by the Masons to their advantage.  The
    abiding principle in this is that you don't have to be a Mason to be
    one who promotes the Masonic agenda.

    As with Communism, which is closely related to Masonry, there are
    many "USEFUL IDIOTS" who help them in their work.

    You may have heard the Communist leader who said that American
    businessmen would happily market the rope that Communism would
    use to make a NOOSE to hang America by the throat until dead, if
    only these useful idiots could make a profit on the rope.

    It is their agenda to destroy the Church.  But the power and influence
    of Holy Mother Church on the societies of the world was too great
    in the 16th, 17th, 18th and 19th centuries, for them to do so, and
    the "Great War" was ENGINEERED by these agents of Antichrist.  It
    was not started by any assassination of Archduke Ferdinand, but
    rather it was set up in advance by "the powers that be" in order to
    disrupt the Kingdom of God as founded by the Church.  Only AFTER
    this disruption, a.k.a. WWI, was the need obvious for the Pope to
    provide the world with the teaching found in Quas Primas, not
    that it couldn't have come prior to that, but the need wasn't somehow
    obvious.  

    We are prone to make do with the here and now until necessity
    demands that we do more.  WWI was the necessity.  

    Add to that the fact that in the middle of WWI, Our Lady came at
    Fatima to tell us that this war would end, but another EVEN WORSE
    one would erupt if Her Message was not heeded.  Later She came
    to Sister Lucia to explain the details of that, but in 1917, She said
    that She requests of the Pope the Consecration of Russia.  Only
    years later would it become clear that it is specifically the Collegial
    Consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary together
    with the bishops of the world that would be necessary.  She said
    that "The Pope will do it but it will be late."  What an understatement!

    It has been "late" for well nigh 80 years already.

    Just as Quas Primas did not come out until push came to shove, so
    too the Consecration isn't going to happen, apparently (we can pray
    that it will, though!) until some major catastrophe pushes and shoves
    the Pope and Bishops into the realization that it is the only hope that
    mankind has to avoid total destruction.  There are many remnants of
    WWII even today, in remote places where German and American tanks
    are found abandoned, and many parts are removed by salvage seekers.

    If we think WWI and WWII were bad, we have no idea what WWIII will
    be like.  

    WWI and WWII were engineered to destroy the Reign of Christ the
    King, and then Paul VI (whose name isn't mentioned in polite company)
    spat in the face of God, like the Jєωs who crucified Him, with his
    abominable policies of Vat.II and the Newmass and moving the Feast
    of Christ the King to displace the 24th and Last Sunday after Pentecost.  

    That's the day we hear St. Matthew's Chapter 24 in the Gospel.

    That is, we SHOULD hear it.  But the NovusOrdo parishes all over the
    world will not, because it has been EXPUNGED from their liturgy.  

    What this means to us is, we might do well to be reading Mt. xxiv on
    a regular basis, so as to see what it is the Freemasons are so afraid of.
    And while we're at it, we should take a quick peek at Mt. xxiii, too.

    Just as WWI and WWII were engineered, so too WWIII is engineered.
    As Bishop Williamson says, it seems to have already been set up and
    awaits a flash point that could come at any time now.  We have a
    situation in the Holy Land, where SQUATTERS who have no right to
    be there (because they rejected Christ, and they "did not recognize
    the time of their visitation"), and as such do not belong there.  The
    Holy Land belongs to the rightful heirs of God's kingdom, and we are
    called to recognize this fact.  The injustices of man do not
    overshadow and replace the justice of God.


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    « Reply #3 on: November 11, 2013, 01:14:56 PM »
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    I just read a quote from Washington somewhere where he challenges the idea that he didn't support and contribute to the Illuminati plan for America...he said something along the lines of, "I most certainly did.." a close approximation.....Yes, the SSPX has always been a little soft on Americanism....when good priests do challenge it the works/pamphlets are eventually suppressed.


    That would be because Menzingen is owned by Freemasons,
    whether they know it or not.  If they don't know it, then they
    are simply useful idiots, like Uncle Joe used to say.


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    So many of the people who come to us..people "on the right"..have no clue about the necessity of the Social Reign of our Lord through the teaching authority of His Church...they pretty much know just one thing: they hate the Left...that's it...which leads them to wrongly assume that everyone on the so-called "Right" is their friend when nothing could be further from the truth..If their NO parish priest had sounded a little more like Hannity, Rush or O'Reilly they wouldn't have made their way over in the first place..




    I told a friend today about our priest's sermon yesterday.  This friend is
    wont to mention 'the separation of church and state' in small talk, and
    he is quite superficial in many ways.  He leaps from one topic to another
    and can't get into any depth at all without instinctively leaping to some
    other thing.  I have my theory as to why this is, but that's another
    thread, really.

    His reply to me was, "But how did he say we should apply this in our
    lives?  How is it important to us?"  

    He was worried that saying that the "SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND
    STATE IS AN INSULT TO GOD"
    is not something he can mention in
    polite company.  

    I told him that we, as Catholics are THE SALT OF THE EARTH, and that
    we are duty bound to explain these truths to people.  

    He retorted,

    "You mean we should try to say that in everyday conversation?!"


    Yes, that's wheat he meant.  I said, "When those people in the
    congregation walked out the door and returned to their daily lives, I'm
    sure not a few of them forgot all about what Fr. said in his sermon."
    Every time we go to Mass, after it's over, we say our thanksgiving
    and we leave the church and go back home and live our lives.  


    He replied, "You mean there were people who walked out on him during
    his sermon?!"  

    Like I said, he's superficial.  He can't imagine saying these things in
    everyday conversation.  What he hears at Mass and what he lives by
    day to day are two different worlds.  

    This is the problem of Modernism in action.  


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