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The Republic of Texas still exists
« on: July 22, 2015, 07:37:48 PM »
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  • I found this 26 minute video to be VERY interesting. It also made me glad to be here in Texas!

    *Texas doesn't keep its land records in Virginia, at the Bureau of Land Management, like the other 49 states

    *Texas has its own power grid

    *Texas is a net exporter of energy. It has oil, natural gas, coal, plus lots of wind and solar.

    *Only one state is allowed to fly its flag at the same height next to the US flag: Texas.

    *Texas could be completely independent if it wanted to be

    *Texas would be *better off* financially if it broke off with the Federal Government. For every $1 of taxes it sends to Washington, it gets back less than a dollar. Other states, Missouri for example, get $2 for every $1 they send. So states like Missouri would go bankrupt if they seceded. Texas would actually be better off.

    What I didn't know was that there is an actual functioning "Republic of Texas" government, printing copper and silver coins, with an all-volunteer legislature, etc. I like how these employees all pack heat, and sometimes quite serious heat! There's a lot of love for the 2nd Amendment in Texas. In fact, one of their silver ounces they mint features the 2nd Amendment. They said it's one of their more popular ones -- go figure.

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    The Republic of Texas still exists
    « Reply #1 on: July 22, 2015, 07:44:10 PM »
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  • There is an article circulating stating that Texas is the only state that has its own gold and that Texas has recently passed legislation that all of Texas's gold must be stored in Texas and will be shipped back from Virginia, a move that would cost a lot.
    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...


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    The Republic of Texas still exists
    « Reply #2 on: July 22, 2015, 10:01:36 PM »
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  • Technically, I am still a Texas resident even though my passport says Tennessee on it.  My Brazilian docuмent was issued from the Houston embassy and I hold a valid Texas state ID.

    If y'all secede I might have to come back.
    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...

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    The Republic of Texas still exists
    « Reply #3 on: July 22, 2015, 10:30:53 PM »
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  • You mean tha your legislators work without pay?

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    « Reply #4 on: July 22, 2015, 10:32:44 PM »
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  • *Texas could be completely independent if it wanted to be

    Not really. Remember teh cινιℓ ωαr? (that is the War of Northern aggression?)


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    The Republic of Texas still exists
    « Reply #5 on: July 22, 2015, 11:07:17 PM »
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    You mean tha your legislators work without pay?


    No, it's not the "regular" State of Texas government structure.

    Arizona also has a "Republic of ____", as do other states.  As I understand it, it is a parallel "government" ready to step into the gap should the regular government fail.  But of course I'm willing to be corrected.

    I think the "sovereign citizen movement" is somewhere in the mix also.
     

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    The Republic of Texas still exists
    « Reply #6 on: July 22, 2015, 11:38:22 PM »
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  • I would hate it if Texas seceded because houses are insanely cheap there. I want my 5 bedrooms and an acre of land for like, nothing and still be in the United States  :laugh1:
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    « Reply #7 on: July 23, 2015, 12:35:49 AM »
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    You mean tha your legislators work without pay?


    No, it's not the "regular" State of Texas government structure.

    Arizona also has a "Republic of ____", as do other states.  As I understand it, it is a parallel "government" ready to step into the gap should the regular government fail.  But of course I'm willing to be corrected.

    I think the "sovereign citizen movement" is somewhere in the mix also.
     

    So which government nominates the ambassadors for the embassy?


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    The Republic of Texas still exists
    « Reply #8 on: July 23, 2015, 07:39:27 AM »
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    *Texas could be completely independent if it wanted to be

    Not really. Remember teh cινιℓ ωαr? (that is the War of Northern aggression?)



    Texas could competently defend itself. There is a lot of military hardware in the Southern states now, and a great deal of it in Texas, as well as the industrial base to make more. Things are not as they were.

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    « Reply #9 on: July 23, 2015, 07:54:34 AM »
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    *Texas could be completely independent if it wanted to be

    Not really. Remember teh cινιℓ ωαr? (that is the War of Northern aggression?)



    About the cινιℓ ωαr, Jefferson Davis was exhonerated.  The South lost on the battle field, but won in court.  It was upheld that the individual states willingly joined the Union and do indeed have the right to secede.  So, in other words, Lincoln started an unconstitutional war against the Southern States.

    And Texas could secede if it wanted to.  They might be embargoed and be denied US airspace and a bunch of other difficulties.  But the courts have ruled that the States have the right to secede.
    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...

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    « Reply #10 on: July 23, 2015, 09:29:27 AM »
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    *Texas could be completely independent if it wanted to be

    Not really. Remember teh cινιℓ ωαr? (that is the War of Northern aggression?)



    Texas could competently defend itself. There is a lot of military hardware in the Southern states now, and a great deal of it in Texas, as well as the industrial base to make more. Things are not as they were.


    In that video, it mentions that Texas has America's only nuclear weapon production plant, or something along those lines.
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    The Republic of Texas still exists
    « Reply #11 on: July 23, 2015, 12:54:39 PM »
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    *Texas doesn't keep its land records in Virginia, at the Bureau of Land Management, like the other 49 states


    I'm not exactly sure what is meant by this.  Each state keeps their own land records.  The federal Bureau of Land Management deals with federally-owned land, not keeping track of land records.

    However, one thing that is true is that when Texas became a state, one thing it demanded was to retain ownership of its public land.  Most other states west of the Mississippi had to give public land to the feds.  What that means today is that the federal government owns very little land in Texas (and what it does own, it had to buy); compare that to Nevada where the feds own 83% of all the land in the state.

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    *Texas has its own power grid

    *Texas is a net exporter of energy. It has oil, natural gas, coal, plus lots of wind and solar.


    These are both true.

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    *Only one state is allowed to fly its flag at the same height next to the US flag: Texas.


    This is an urban legend, and is false.  Flag etiquette--and it is only that, etiquette; it has no force of law--says that all state flags (or any flag, for that matter) can be flown at the same height as the US flag, so long as the US flag is given the place of honor, which is all the way to its own right, or the observer's left.

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    *Texas could be completely independent if it wanted to be


    Kind of a broad statement.  Do you mean it would be economically feasible?  Probably so.  Do you mean legally speaking?  Probably not, at least not without a war.

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    *Texas would be *better off* financially if it broke off with the Federal Government. For every $1 of taxes it sends to Washington, it gets back less than a dollar. Other states, Missouri for example, get $2 for every $1 they send. So states like Missouri would go bankrupt if they seceded. Texas would actually be better off.


    This is true, but only to an extent.  In 2014, for every $1.00 Texas paid in federal taxes, it received $0.94 in federal spending.  So it would be better off, but not by much.

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    « Reply #12 on: July 23, 2015, 12:59:59 PM »
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    In that video, it mentions that Texas has America's only nuclear weapon production plant, or something along those lines.


    This is true, the Pantex Plant, although it is owned by the feds.  However, I can't imagine anyone in their right mind threatening nuclear war so that Texas could secede.  Even if they did, Texas may have the plant, but the feds have thousands of other nukes spread through the country and submarines.  If things went nuclear, there wouldn't be much of Texas left.

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    « Reply #13 on: July 23, 2015, 01:11:58 PM »
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  • Dolores:

    So are you saying that it is illegal to secede, or just that the U.S. would ignore the states' rights to secede?
    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...

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    « Reply #14 on: July 23, 2015, 01:16:30 PM »
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    Dolores:

    So are you saying that it is illegal to secede, or just that the U.S. would ignore the states' rights to secede?


    I really don't know one way or the other whether it is legal for states to secede.  I think it is pretty certain, however, that the feds would take the position that it is illegal.