Author Topic: The RemnantJudaizing again! (Read 1302 times)

Diego · « **on:** December 19, 2012, 01:02:07 PM »

As if the Remnant's support for Judaizing the Good Friday liturgy wasn't far enough over the top—a "Papal Masterstroke" they called it—now they market 'Jєωιѕн fables' (Titus 1:14):

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For Advent, The Remnant Offers 'Hope' in Rabbinic Fables
http://mauricepinay.blogspot.com/2012/12/for-advent-remnant-offers-hope-in.html

In keeping with the traditional Catholic kosher imperative, 'The Remnant' has published an article titled, "Lessons of Hanukkah for 2012" which offers the тαℓмυdic fable of the miracle of the oil which lasts 8 days' as hope to neotraditionalists despairing the litany of issues approved for them to despair.

The Chanukah 'miracle of the oil' has its origin in тαℓмυd tractate Shabat 21b and is generally accepted as originating 600 years after the events recorded in Book of Maccabees. Numerous rabbinic scholars have determined that the fable was invented at a time when militant Judaism would be a liability (c.f. the Bar Kochba rebellion), and so the 'miracle of the oil' was contrived and emphasized over the militant theme in the Book of Maccabees to mollify fanatics and thereby avoid backlash. This is an example of Judaic dispensationalism at work. For our time, when fear of backlash is less, we can see that the militant theme of Chanukah is more heavily emphasized (c.f. George W. Bush's White House Chanukah party speeches).

During the Advent season of 2012 we should find hope in anticipation of the commemoration of the Incarnation of the Lord Jesus Christ who drove the moneychangers from the Temple, chastened the rabbis' pharisaic forefathers and conquered sin, not a silly rabbi-contrived "miracle" that even Judaic people are wont to poke fun at and liken to arriving at a gas station when the fuel gauge is near empty. This kind of regressive bait-and-switch itself should would cause despair to any thinking Christian.

Let us find hope in the countless Christians; St. Stephen, St. Peter, St. Paul, St. John Chrysostom, St. Vincent Ferrer, et al, who putting aside "fear of 'the Jєωs," preached the unvarnished Gospel and converted 'Jєωs' rather than converting the message to one Judaic sensibilities could tolerate. This is true cooperation of man with the will of God that the true Church was built upon and it's the only way a true restoration of the same can take place.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #1 on:** December 19, 2012, 02:42:37 PM »

What neo-Traditional junk! They dare to call themselves Traditional Catholics?

Telesphorus · « **Reply #2 on:** December 19, 2012, 02:52:35 PM »

When a Catholic newspaper tells Catholics pay attention to Jєωιѕн feasts then they are judaizers. Our worship has nothing to do with тαℓмυdic feasts.

Devonshire · « **Reply #3 on:** December 19, 2012, 03:22:16 PM »

It's a bit surreal, in my opinion, just how similar the tone and viewpoint of the Remnant is becoming to the Novus Ordo establishment. Indeed, Catholic worship has nothing to do with тαℓмυdic feasts. Why would they even mention the тαℓмυd in any other context but to condemn it? Don't they know about the blasphemies against Our Lord and Our Lady contained within?

Judaizers indeed...

Telesphorus · « **Reply #4 on:** December 19, 2012, 03:25:04 PM »

The pro-Fellay contingent on IA are mostly Judaizers who deny that the old covenant is revoked, that Nostra Aetate directly contradicts past Magisterium, etc. One of them says he's an "old newspaper man."

That is to say, liberals who do not hold to the Catholic Faith are now trying to take over Catholic Tradition.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #5 on:** December 19, 2012, 03:35:37 PM »

Happy Hanukkah from THE REMNANT to all those trads out there - especially those trads for whom support of Israel, wine and miniskirts are to essential to the preservation of our Jєωιѕн-Christian heritage, and to all those wily "elder brothers" who share the Old Covenant with us!

michaela benedicta · « **Reply #6 on:** December 19, 2012, 05:20:24 PM »

:roll-laugh1:

Incredulous · « **Reply #7 on:** December 19, 2012, 07:21:25 PM »

You say want me to do what...?

Cancel our subscription to the Remnant ?

You refuse to renew our daughter and son in-law's subscriptions too ?

Michael Matt is a what... ?

Catechist99 · « **Reply #8 on:** December 20, 2012, 12:07:11 AM »

Quote from: Telesphorus

When a Catholic newspaper tells Catholics pay attention to Jєωιѕн feasts then they are judaizers. Our worship has nothing to do with тαℓмυdic feasts.

Some Hebraic festivals are commanded by God in Holy Scripture but Hannukah is NOT one of them. There are SOME similarities between Catholic holy days and some Israelite festivals.

But it's a "limited" similarity......... :roll-laugh2:

Diego · « **Reply #9 on:** December 20, 2012, 12:44:07 AM »

Quote from: Catechist99

Quote from: Telesphorus
When a Catholic newspaper tells Catholics pay attention to Jєωιѕн feasts then they are judaizers. Our worship has nothing to do with тαℓмυdic feasts.

Some Hebraic festivals are commanded by God in Holy Scripture but Hannukah is NOT one of them. There are SOME similarities between Catholic holy days and some Israelite festivals.

But it's a "limited" similarity......... :roll-laugh2:

Correction: Some were commanded (past tense).

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Council of Florence: “§ 712 It [the Holy Catholic Church] firmly believes, professes, and teaches that the matter pertaining to the law of the Old Testament, of the Mosaic law, which are divided into ceremonies, sacred rites, sacrifices, and sacraments, because they were established to signify something in the future, although they were suited to Divine worship at that time, after our Lord's coming had been signified by them, ceased, and the Sacraments of the New Testament began; and that whoever, even after the passion, placed hope in these matters of law and submitted himself to them as necessary for salvation, as if faith in Christ could not save without them, sinned mortally. Yet it does not deny that after the passion of Christ up to the promulgation of the Gospel they could have been observed until they were believed to be in no way necessary for salvation; but after the promulgation of the Gospel it asserts they cannot be observed without the loss of eternal salvation. All, therefore, who after that time observe circuмcision and the Sabbath and the other requirements of the law, it declares alien to the Christian faith and not in the least fit to participate in eternal salvation, unless someday they recover from these errors....

“§714 The Most Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that none of those existing outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jєωs, and heretics, and schismatics, can ever be partakers of eternal life, but that they are to go into the eternal fire 'which was prepared for the devil, and his angels,' (Matthew 25:41) unless before death they are joined with Her; and that so important is the unity of this Ecclesiastical Body, that only those remaining within this unity can profit from the sacraments of the Church unto salvation, and that they alone can receive an eternal recompense for their fasts, alms deeds, and other works of Christian piety and duties of a Christian soldier. No one, let his almsgiving be as great as it may, no one, even if he pour out his blood for the Name of Christ, can be saved unless they abide within the bosom and unity of the Catholic Church.” ---Cantate Domino, from the infallible ecuмenical Council of Florence under His Holiness Pope Eugene IV defining the Solemn Doctrine: Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus, promulgated by papal bull, February 4, 1444 [Florentine calendar] in Denzinger Enchiridion Symbolorum, The Sources of Catholic Dogma, § 712-714