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Offline Nadir

Re: The REAL reason TFP/TIA hates SSPX
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2019, 05:36:41 AM »
Quote from: JezusDeKoning on June 01, 2019, 09:26:03 PM
Please forgive my ignorance, as I know nothing about the situation, but why have there been endless threads on TFP, TIA and Plinio de Oliveira? I'm very confused.
Good question. Cera has just yesterday started two threads within three minutes of each other. 
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Offline Meg

Re: The REAL reason TFP/TIA hates SSPX
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2019, 10:00:02 AM »
Quote from: Cera on June 01, 2019, 06:10:54 PM
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The religious overtones were very heavy. We were encouraged to receive Holy Communion daily in the TFP Chapel. That it was distributed to us by a layman who was one of our own was done only out of supposed need. That need, of course, served to provide more evidence of the spread of the revolution. (A large number of hosts were consecrated three or four times a year by a visiting priest from Canada. He left them in our Chapel tabernacle.)

I have to wonder if the hosts that were distributed by the laity (as it is done in the conciliar church) in the TFP chapel were consecrated by a priest in a TLM or a Novus Ordo Mass, since the TFP don't seem to prefer the TLM. In fact, Holy Mass doesn't seem important at all to them. What seems important is fighting the revolution. Everything else seems secondary.
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Offline Maria Regina

Re: The REAL reason TFP/TIA hates SSPX
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2019, 11:35:06 AM »
Quote from: Meg on June 02, 2019, 10:00:02 AM
I have to wonder if the hosts that were distributed by the laity (as it is done in the conciliar church) in the TFP chapel were consecrated by a priest in a TLM or a Novus Ordo Mass, since the TFP don't seem to prefer the TLM. In fact, Holy Mass doesn't seem important at all to them. What seems important is fighting the revolution. Everything else seems secondary.
Those are serious warning signs: hosts distributed by laity and not caring about the TLM.
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Offline Cera

Re: The REAL reason TFP/TIA hates SSPX
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2019, 05:53:28 PM »
Quote from: JezusDeKoning on June 01, 2019, 09:26:03 PM
Please forgive my ignorance, as I know nothing about the situation, but why have there been endless threads on TFP, TIA and Plinio de Oliveira? I'm very confused.
Plinio was the cult-leader of Tradition, Family Property. The local Bishop, Bishop Mayer, was at first taken in by the seemingly Catholic group.
After 30 years and numerous reports of children being turned against their parents (a tactic typical of cults) the Bishop looked into the group more closely and learned that they were trafficking children (not sex trafficking; they were removing minor children from the area where their families lived and removing them to far-away areas or different countries). Civil authorities in two nations condemned TFP for cнιℓd тrαffιcking.
Just search Bishop Mayer and you will find that he renounced Plinio and his group as an "anti-Catholic, anti-clerical heretical sect" to which no Catholic should belong.
Sadly several members of TFP and one of their many other Plinio-worshipping  groups are here on Cath Info to:
1.  defend their cult leader
2.  trash anyone who exposes the truth
3.  recruit new cult members
Please join me in praying for them to return to the Catholic Faith.
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Offline Quo vadis Domine

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Re: The REAL reason TFP/TIA hates SSPX
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2019, 07:16:22 PM »
Quote from: Cera on June 02, 2019, 05:53:28 PM
Plinio was the cult-leader of Tradition, Family Property. The local Bishop, Bishop Mayer, was at first taken in by the seemingly Catholic group.
After 30 years and numerous reports of children being turned against their parents (a tactic typical of cults) the Bishop looked into the group more closely and learned that they were trafficking children (not sex trafficking; they were removing minor children from the area where their families lived and removing them to far-away areas or different countries). Civil authorities in two nations condemned TFP for cнιℓd тrαffιcking.
Just search Bishop Mayer and you will find that he renounced Plinio and his group as an "anti-Catholic, anti-clerical heretical sect" to which no Catholic should belong.
Sadly several members of TFP and one of their many other Plinio-worshipping  groups are here on Cath Info to:
1.  defend their cult leader
2.  trash anyone who exposes the truth
3.  recruit new cult members
Please join me in praying for them to return to the Catholic Faith.
Cera, were you a member of this organization at one time?
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