Author Topic: The New English Liturgy- A Cleaner Translation of a Protestantized Rite (Read 4081 times)

pax · « **Reply #35 on:** December 06, 2011, 09:43:02 PM »

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Hey Pax you wrote:

If the Mass of Pope Paul VI is invalid then please state the reasons why.

Did you miss the following, or is it too long for your attention span?...

Yes. It is too long for my attention span.

Perhaps you could explain it to me in simpler language.

Thanks.

No language would be simple enough for you. You have rejected it already.

True. I reject it for the same reasons I reject dissertations from Protestants. I do, however, accept the critique from Cardinal Ottaviani.

Why do waste time and attempt to get others to waste their time by requesting they post things that you know you won't read?

I never requested that post.

I have asked for the official teaching from the Magisterium.

By the way, do you have the official teaching from the Magisterium on what to do if a Pope teaches heresy?

And when I say "official teaching of the Magisterium" I mean a docuмent ordered promulgated by a reigning Pontiff, not the musing of some theologian, even one so great as Saint Robert Bellarmine.

Roman Catholic · « **Reply #36 on:** December 06, 2011, 09:48:51 PM »

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Hey Pax you wrote:

If the Mass of Pope Paul VI is invalid then please state the reasons why.

Did you miss the following, or is it too long for your attention span?...

Yes. It is too long for my attention span.

Perhaps you could explain it to me in simpler language.

Thanks.

No language would be simple enough for you. You have rejected it already.

True. I reject it for the same reasons I reject dissertations from Protestants. I do, however, accept the critique from Cardinal Ottaviani.

Why do waste time and attempt to get others to waste their time by requesting they post things that you know you won't read?

I never requested that post.

I have asked for the official teaching from the Magisterium.

By the way, do you have the official teaching from the Magisterium on what to do if a Pope teaches heresy?

And when I say "official teaching of the Magisterium" I mean a docuмent ordered promulgated by a reigning Pontiff, not the musing of some theologian, even one so great as Saint Robert Bellarmine.

You wrote:
If the Mass of Pope Paul VI is invalid then please state the reasons why.

And then after I posted an article you replied to me:
Perhaps you could explain it to me in simpler language.

You know that you are not open to it, no matter how simply put, as you have already admitted.

pax · « **Reply #37 on:** December 07, 2011, 08:00:58 AM »

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You wrote:
If the Mass of Pope Paul VI is invalid then please state the reasons why.

And then after I posted an article you replied to me:
Perhaps you could explain it to me in simpler language.

You know that you are not open to it, no matter how simply put, as you have already admitted.

Forgive me. I took it as a given that in order to invalidate an official Mass some sort of official docuмent would be necessary, and not just the musings of a theologian.

Roman Catholic · « **Reply #38 on:** December 07, 2011, 08:06:06 AM »

The crteria for validity and invalidity has been laid down by the Church.

pax · « **Reply #39 on:** December 07, 2011, 08:07:38 AM »

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The crteria for validity and invalidity has been laid down by the Church.

Ok. So cite the docuмent for invalidity and then demonstrate how the Mass of Pope Paul VI is invalid.