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Offline John Grace

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« on: January 15, 2011, 04:25:20 PM »
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  • Your readers might be interested in this blog as you covered the story of Maximilian Krah and Menzingen. I found this blog and bookmarked it.

    The Krahgate File
    http://krahgatefile.blogspot.com/


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    « Reply #1 on: April 28, 2011, 05:57:33 PM »
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  • A useful reference blog with the file in various languages.


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    « Reply #2 on: August 03, 2011, 03:18:35 AM »
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  • Just for the record.

    Professional German translation of the complete Krahgate files :
    http://krahgate.blogspot.com


    P.S. You better save the files locally before they're taken down by the Jєωs' agent Krah.

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    « Reply #3 on: August 03, 2011, 03:25:56 AM »
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  • Posted by „Dumb Ox“ in another place:


    The following text is a professional translation of a short article written just a few days ago by the universally respected Italian priest of Catholic Tradition, Don Curzio Nitoglia. It is published on his own website and by the online Italian journal Effedieffe.com, which commands a paid-subscription readership of some 200,000 souls.

    Don Curzio Nitoglia
    www.doncurzionitoglia.com

    Effedieffe.com
    www.effedieffe.com


    Spanish Translation

    Santa Iglesia Militante
    santaiglesiamilitante.blogspot.com

    Radio Cristiandad
    radiocristiandad.wordpress.com


    It is particularly apposite to post this important observation from Don Curzio Nitoglia today; a day in which we have been shocked to witness the vicious hounding, bullying and vile intimidation, by Maximilian Krah, of the former moderator of this forum; a courageous young wife and mother of small children, disabled and afflicted with Multiple Sclerosis, constantly suffering and struggling to fulfill her spiritual and family duties and obligations to the best of her ability while helping to maintain this forum as a voice and meeting point for Catholic laity attached to Tradition.

    May God have mercy on you and those who you serve, Mr. Crow.

    ----------------


    The Krah Case:
    Docuмented Facts
    or Lies and Slander?


    The Williamson-Nahrath Case 2010

    1) In mid-November 2010 Bishop Richard Williamson decides to defend himself from the accusation of ‘revisionism’ by employing the lawyer Wolfram Nahrath. So he asks his first defender, lawyer Matthias Lossmann, if he wants to defend him together with Nahrath. Lossman refuses and so Bishop Williamson dismisses him.

    2) On November 18th, the lawyer, Nahrath, faxed the judge, Eisvogel, to inform him that Lossmann has resigned and that he, Nahrath, would defend Bishop Williamson.

    3) Just 32 minutes after the fax message from Nahrath to Dr Eisvogel, the editorial staff of the weekly Der Spiegel phoned Nahrath and requested information on the future legal defence of Bishop Williamson.

    4) On November 19th, Der Spiegel published the news that the lawyer, Nahrath, is a political representative of a German neo-nαzι Party so that by association Bishop Williamson would be regarded as nαzι sympathiser. In fact, the German nαzι party has been outlawed since 1945, and Nahrath is part of the National Democratic Party (NPD), a far right party, but not nαzι.


    Krah and Zionism

    1) The lawyer, Lossmann, had been chosen in 2009 by Krah to defend Bishop Williamson. However, Krah – his true intentions only God knows (!) - had participated in the press campaign against Bishop Williamson, which broke out on January 20th, 2009, through interviews with the magazine Der Spiegel, which has a radical Socialist political orientation very similar to the Italian weekly L'Espresso owned by Carlo De Benedetti - an industrialist and engineer.

    2) In addition Krah is an active member of the Christian Democratic Party (CDU) of the German Chancellor, Angela Merkel. The CDU is a Liberal party, libertarian, pro-abortion, divorce, co-habitation and pro-ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity, and therefore certainly not better, regarding Faith and Morals than the NPD, to which Nahrath belongs. See Dresdner Union mit neuem Kreisvorstand.

    3) Lossmann, the lawyer chosen by Krah to defend Bishop Williamson in 2009, is part of the Green Party (Die Grünen), which is, as in Italy, a party of the extreme left: radical sixties, pro-abortion, divorce, ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity, paedophilia, euthanasia, and far worse, and more anti-Christian than the National Democratic Party (NPD), the party to which the lawyer Nahrath belongs.

    4) Finally, and this is, in fact, the most interesting point (I do not wish to mention all other matters related to this case). In September 2010 in New York, Krah, together with former students of The University of Tel Aviv, took part in a collection to help Jєωιѕн students from the diaspora to reach the Jєωιѕн State of Israel to be trained at the Zionist University of Tel Aviv, (contra factum non valet argumenum). You can see photos of Krah and his companions, who are described as Jєωιѕн. View the Chelsea Gallery Party and Auction For Alumni and Friends of Tel Aviv University.

    The facts mentioned above are described in a commentary published in December 2010 (EXCLUSIF: les dessous de l'affaire Williamson).

    5) Krah’s reply to the comments in the passage came at the end of December 2010, published on the Ignis Ardens website. It is quite illuminating and disconcerting, and clearly threatening: "Now I know the people who have slandered me and they will [hear from me] ...."

    a) Enlightening, in as much as, if he had really been slandered, Krah could have responded to clarify matters, or could have appealed to the courts to seek justice, as was his right, rather than make threats to intimidate people ("I know who you are, you'll see");

    b) because Krah admits: "In September I received a free invitation from a lawyer friend for a very enjoyable evening at the Witzenhausen Gallery, where I met fantastic people from Israel, United States (both Jєωιѕн and non Jєωιѕн), and some Europeans who happened to be in New York. It was a regular annual meeting. And, of course, there was a charity gala. This is what happened";

    c) Finally, Krah does not deny fundraising for the University of Tel Aviv, which is not just a simple chat with Jєωιѕн people, which is perfectly lawful. It is not important if Krah is of Jєωιѕн origin, what counts is his faith, not his ethnicity. If Krah is a Catholic traditionalist, this is enough. But the pro-Zionist activities, carried out by Krah, although, in themselves lawful and legal, are hard to reconcile, morally and dogmatically, with the profession of the traditional and pre-Vatican II Catholic Faith. This is the major issue arising from this matter.

    St. Pius X (the patron saint of the traditionalists) in 1904 responded to Theodor Herzl (the founder of Zionism, 1896), who had asked him to recognize the Zionist movement and the possible future state of Israel: "As long as Israel does not recognize Christ as the Messiah and God, the Church will not recognize Israel and Zionism."So clearly Catholicism and Zionism are incompatible and dual membership is not lawful.


    Current Situation

    1) We have heard and read that you want to complain to the magistrates about those who dealt with the Krah Case.

    2) After Bishop Williamson's trial on July 4th, 2011, in Germany, Maximilian Krah gave an interview in which he launched into an outrageous and slanderous attack against the British bishop. "Bishop Richard Williamson has a serious problem of disconnection from reality, every few years, with a beautiful regularity, he believes the end of the world is coming(...). I think he could be called a wildly eccentric person". (I)

    Unfortunately, no one intervened to defend Bishop Williamson, or even to calm the situation down and advise a greater respect in the language directed against him. No one has distanced himself and objected to the personal and public insults from a traditional lay Catholic, which Krah made against a [traditional] Catholic bishop. This is not acceptable.

    3) Therefore I feel morally obliged to take a public position in this case, not to gossip, or cause trouble, but to try to establish the real truth of the facts. I hope that this is still legally permissible; morally it is beyond question. I hope to succeed in my purpose. If I am wrong, please correct me. Therefore I am writing publicly. If the threatened complaint is made to ascertain the truth of what I am writing about Krah, that would be lawful. If he has been insulted he will be compensated, otherwise the truth of the facts will be recognised. Also, if anyone slanders a complainant, recourse to justice is a duty and is necessary to defend his own good name. However, it is grossly unfair to keep on about anti-Zionism and denounce as anti-Semitic and an incitement to racial hatred, anyone who has raised the question of whether support for both Zionism and traditional Catholicism (II) is lawful. Now we can only wait and hope, without making any unnecessary speculation - only that there will be some explanation regarding this business which is disturbing and needs to be resolved.

    4) So far I have not wanted to deal with the matter, which is part financial, part ethnic and part 'conspiracy' – some of this I do not think is relevant. I have been waiting for convincing answers, which remove any doubt about the compatibility between the Catholic Faith and Zionist ideology. An answer came from Krah, but it is made as an intimidation rather than as a response, or a clarification. Now it is time to reply. Let us hope and wish that this is done correctly and not as a form of persecution, and that truth will triumph over doubt, which has done and is doing so much harm to the Catholics faithful to the Apostolic Tradition and to the enduring and constant Magisterium of the Church, which starting from the time of Nostra Aetate (1965) has undergone a growing left-wing tendency and yielded to post-biblical Judaism. If you want to denounce me for expressing these concerns on the consistency and accuracy of this way of thinking and acting, go ahead. "It is better to obey God rather than men" (Acts of the Apostles), - if you do this you are turning away from God.


    Sancte Pie X, ora pro nobis!

    PS: Many of the sites mentioned in this article have been closed, but the news reported by them has been thoroughly examined and found to conform to the truth. If anyone finds some inaccuracy I will be the first to take note and correct it.

    Don Curzio Nitoglia



    I) Extract from: (Plaudern über Gaskammern.)

    St. Thomas Aquinas in Summa Theologica (II-II, qq. 72-75) deals with "injustices resulting from words." In question 72, Aquinas speaks of "insults" or rather '"verbal insults" which are not hidden, but are "openly" made. Now, because words mean something, they can cause much damage. With regard to verbal insult or injury affecting "honour"; in Article 2, St. Thomas explains that the insult is a mortal sin. Indeed (in corpore articulo) sins of speech should especially be judged by the intention with which we express ourselves, i.e. the purpose intended by the insult. But the insult in itself implies an impairment of honour, or morality, in others. Therefore it is "a mortal sin" - theft takes away material wealth, whereas verbal injury dishonours the soul. Father Tito Centi said: "the severity of the insult, or abuse, which is meant to destroy moral integrity demands redress, that is restitution of good character in respect to the “insult”, or return of the goods stolen in the case of theft, or otherwise “damnation!" In Article 3 St Thomas, explains that in some cases it is necessary to refute the insults - especially for two reasons: firstly, for the good of the person responsible in order to restrain his arrogance and presumption so that such crimes will not be repeated; secondly "for the good of another person, if that person holds public office and is offended" (as is the case of His Excellency Bishop Williamson), so the offence would effect his episcopal office and dishonour it. Therefore whoever holds high office must "defend the office" and not his person, or someone must do it for him. Anyone who listens to the slander and tolerates it without reaction, by not defending the person vilified, sins gravely. When he does not react, even when given the chance, not because they like the sin but out of respect for the person making the accusation, or out of negligence - this is only a venial sin. (S. Th., II-II, q. 73, a. 4, in corpore). Even If you can tolerate denigration towards oneself, the denigration of the good name of another is not tolerable (ivi., ad 1um). Mocking others is a mortal sin, all the more serious when respect is owed to the person being laughed at (q. 75, a. 2, in corpore).Mocking a bishop is, clearly, very serious.

    II) Note that even Paul VI did not wish to openly recognize the State of Israel, and hence, implicitly, the compatibility of Zionism with Christianity. John Paul II did that in 1993.

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    « Reply #4 on: August 04, 2011, 05:09:39 AM »
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  • Because the whole Krah-Case thread got removed "archived" on IA :

    Quote from: Nemmersdorf on IA
    With reference to the short article from Don Nitoglia posted 3 August 12:03 AM, the following correction has to be made:

    Don Nitoglia is mistaken when he states that “After Bishop Williamson's trial on July 4th, 2011, in Germany, Maximilian Krah gave an interview in which he launched into an outrageous and slanderous attack against the British bishop. …”

    There was no interview (at least there is no trace of it anywhere). Mr. Krah made those statements in front of the court, where he was appearing as a witness for the Defence on the 4 July 2011 (as he did on 16 April 2010). THIS is stated by Max Krah himself in the communication addressed to Clare, NOT in an “interview” as said by Don Nitoglia (point 2 Current Situation). The SOURCE (I) given by Don Nitoglia (I) is from the same German Newspaper as given in my post dated Aug 1 2011, 07:20 PM:

    (I) Plaudern über Gaskammern:
    www.sueddeutsche.de
    "It is hardly possible to distance themselves much further from one of their members than is being done by a Catholic community of priests. Bishop Richard Williamson is an eccentric, one who has a “persistent problem with recognizing reality” and who with “monotonous regularity assumes the end of the world every two years”.
    This is what was said on Monday in Regensburg by Maximilian Krah, the legal representative of the German section of St. Pius X, about Williamson, one of their own community."



    The confusion has come about from the fact that Mr. Krah had stated the same about Bishop Williamson on two occasions: the first on the 16 April 2010 (see Angelqueen: www.angelqueen.org) and the second time on the 4 of July 2011. On both occasions he made these statements in front of the Regensburg court when he was called as a witness.


    In addition, Lady Renouf wrote to me last night:

    “I can confirm as an eyewitness at both court hearings in Regensburg that Max Krah attended and gave his testimony verbally to the judge in Regensburg Courtroom on both occasions (16 April 2010 and 4 July 2011).”


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    « Reply #5 on: August 04, 2011, 06:11:03 AM »
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  • I have to comment on the sheer unprofessionalism of lawyers extending their work and engaging in intimidation on discussion fora. One would have thought such activity would compromise the impartiality of court processes but it seems the German legal system is so politically charged and it seems careerist lawyers bring their networks of associations and influence to bear on the administration of justice.  

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    « Reply #6 on: August 04, 2011, 08:09:40 AM »
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  • Quote from: Wessex
    I have to comment on the sheer unprofessionalism of lawyers extending their work and engaging in intimidation on discussion fora. One would have thought such activity would compromise the impartiality of court processes but it seems the German legal system is so politically charged and it seems careerist lawyers bring their networks of associations and influence to bear on the administration of justice.  


    Well said, Wessex.

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    « Reply #7 on: August 04, 2011, 10:37:01 AM »
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  • An Open Letter:

    Patricius wrote an 'Open Letter to Maximilian Krah':

    Open Letter to Maximilian Krah.

    Max,

    I am aware of the contents of the PM you sent an Admin earlier today. That admin has now resigned.

    The PM is a thinly veiled threat towards this forum, and one too many. This is a Traditional Catholic discussion forum. People are free, and entitled to air their views and opinions on topics discussed.

    If you don't like what you read, then don't give people ammunition. If you wish to threaten us, that's fine, but don't think I will take such threats, veiled or otherwise, lying down. I don't respond well to bullying, and I won't be bullied by you.

    As I said, enough is enough!

    Patrick.


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    « Reply #8 on: August 04, 2011, 02:02:17 PM »
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  • Quote from: Augstine Baker
    An Open Letter:

    Patricius wrote an 'Open Letter to Maximilian Krah':

    Open Letter to Maximilian Krah.

    Max,

    I am aware of the contents of the PM you sent an Admin earlier today. That admin has now resigned.

    The PM is a thinly veiled threat towards this forum, and one too many. This is a Traditional Catholic discussion forum. People are free, and entitled to air their views and opinions on topics discussed.

    If you don't like what you read, then don't give people ammunition. If you wish to threaten us, that's fine, but don't think I will take such threats, veiled or otherwise, lying down. I don't respond well to bullying, and I won't be bullied by you.

    As I said, enough is enough!

    Patrick.




    Patricius is a fine example of Catholic who knows how to give manly response to this legalist terrorism.                                                                                                                    

     

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    « Reply #9 on: August 07, 2011, 01:10:45 PM »
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  •  :cheers:

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    « Reply #10 on: August 13, 2011, 08:31:55 AM »
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  • Now there's also a German translation of Don Curzio Nitoglia's text. See the German Krahgate file please:

    Die Krah-Affäre
    http://krahgate.blogspot.com/2011/08/die-krah-affaire.html

    Many thanks to the brave translator and the other people involved in making this available.


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    « Reply #11 on: December 05, 2011, 02:56:17 PM »
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  • It's over a year now since the initial post of 'William of Norwich' over on Ignis Ardens.

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    « Reply #12 on: December 06, 2011, 07:50:43 AM »
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  • Yes John, a year and no answers yet.

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    « Reply #13 on: December 06, 2011, 09:04:25 AM »
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  • Answer from which side on which question?
    Life is better without democracy!

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    « Reply #14 on: December 06, 2011, 09:48:24 AM »
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  • Quote from: Eppo
    Answer from which side on which question?


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    Your Excellency,

    1) Were you aware that Maximilian Krah, who currently has significant power and influence in important areas of the internal workings of the SSPX, was Jєωιѕн when he was taken into your confidence?

    2) Who introduced, or recommended, Maximilian Krah in his professional capacity to the Society of Saint Pius X?

    3) If you were not aware of Krah’s background and political connections, why was he not carefully investigated before being brought into the inner-circle and inner-workings of SSPX?

    4) Why does Krah, who is not a cleric of the SSPX or even a longtime supporter of the Society, have such singular power to handle SSPX funds?

    5) Who are the shareholders of Dello Sarto AG? Are they all clergy of the SSPX or related congregations? Are the shares transferable through purchase? In the event of the death, defection or resignation of a shareholder, how are the shares distributed? Who in any of these cases has the power to confer, designate, sell or otherwise dispose of these shares? You? The Bursar? The Manager? The Board Members? The General Council?

    6) Why is the Society of Saint Pius X engaged in financial activities which may be common in modern society, but which are hardly likely to be in conformity with Church teaching pertaining to money, its nature, its use and its ends?

    7) Why was Krah allowed to keep the pot boiling in the “Williamson Affair” by arranging interviews and providing stories for Der Spiegel magazine? How could an alleged Christian Democrat be the intermediary with a notorious communist journal?

     Why was Krah permitted to impose upon your brother bishop an attorney belonging to the extreme left-wing Die Grünen?

    9) Why was your brother bishop threatened with expulsion from SSPX for merely hiring an attorney who was actually interested in fighting the unjust and ridiculous charge of incitement? Is it not the case that those of the Household of the Faith must take precedence over those who are without?



    10) Can you explain why your public attitude to Williamson has changed, why you have continuously belittled him in public – while he has not responded in kind at any time?



    11) What do you intend to do about Mr. Krah given that his position within the Society is one of influence, but who cannot seriously be regarded as someone who has the best interests of Catholic Tradition at heart? Will you move as quickly to resolve this question as you have in respect of Williamson?