It's no big deal, I just want to say that +Lefebvre was never a cardinal, he was an Archbishop.

Uhps, apologies for my mistake. Anyway, cardinal or bishop, one day he will be a Saint.

The ICK Mass is related to the SSPX Mass in that there would be no ICK Mass if it weren't for the SSPX Mass. This is because the ICK Mass exists only to draw the people into the control of the conciliar church. The main reason for it's existence is to draw the people away from all things anti-conciliar, which at present, describes the SSPX. 

:o I Had never thought of it this way but it makes absolute sense. Of course! People like me are drawn away from anticonciliar thoughts. This would also explain why they are so wealthy and have the most beautiful church in Naples after the Cathedral.

That is the only purpose of the ICK. It is not a question of "if", but rather "when" the ICK will be dissolved. The crooks in Rome want to control the Mass so they can get rid of it - that is their only purpose in allowing it. If you can accept that they want to destroy the Church, then you should understand they can only tolerate the TLM for so long. 

Pretend you are one of the conciliar crooks, you are offering the people the TLM with all the bells and whistles for one reason, to draw them out of the SSPX and *all* the other trad groups so that there are no more trad groups - because you want them to all come over to the ICK or FSSP. Once that happens, you will get rid of the TLM altogether. It may take a few more generations, but the goal remains the same - eradicate the true Mass and faith.

The above is a very short and crude - but accurate description, but only if you can get yourself to think like a conciliar crook.

I can see your perspective and I can appreciate that it makes perfect sense. Hence the name of this community, "The Resistence"?

The more I study, the worse it gets...

How have you guys resisted for so long... ?

It's not so much a matter of resisting as it is a matter of just always doing what's right. Toward that end, the #1 rule is to *always* avoid all things Novus Ordo because of what it is - what it is, is ultimately against us doing what is right.  

I was recommended a video catechism series by the Society of St Pius V. Do you consider these to be part of "*all* the other trad groups" too?

Yes, although I personally would never attend an SSPV Mass, the SSPV certainly represent that which the crooks are hell bent on destroying -  the traditional Catholic faith, which faith the crooks want to completely eradicate from the face of the earth as if it never even existed.

"...Just because they wear sacerdotal vestments and they wear pectoral crosses and because they seem to be Catholic, is no indication whatsoever of what they are. When you see them before the television cameras and you hear them making their pontifical statements, think of ravening wolves, think of men with forked tongues, think of men who are trained to deceive, who have cultivated the talent..." - Fr. Wathen from  This sermon you should listen to

Yes, vigorous language.
1. Does this society recognize the Pope?
2. Are their video catechism and book catechism correct (https://wcbohio.com/videos/catechism)?

The SSPV, far as I know, still do not recognize the pope. 

Their catechism is fine, but you're likely to still find things in need of correction. You're better off to use The Catechism of the Council of Trent, sometimes called "The Roman Catechism", which is actually meant for priests, but we can, and these days should, use it. It is the best catechism out there today in my opinion. 



 

Yes, I was so told. I spend many hours in the car, every day, and I wanted to take advantage of it and reading will cause seasickness. I am looking for a podcast or video. You have no idea how much literature I have been recommended and I have bought ... I must prioritize and use the available time. I think that catechism is paramount and, hence, I want to invest there the time that I sit in a car every day.

Again, thank you.

You will do well by listening to these - you can download them all very easily to your computer or phone and listen on the road, just click the download button at the bottom. Fr. Hesse is a very good speaker and is very orthodox. He was ordained in the NO but he came to the truth and since then, the true faith is all he speaks.

I imagine I don't have to fear a modernist slant. What kind of errors should I look out for?

Just go with Trent's catechism and you won't have to look out for anything. Otherwise, there are at least two things, one is the three things necessary to make a sin mortal, and the other is the teaching that there are three kinds baptism. Both need to be corrected to conform to dogma, scripture and tradition - although most will disagree that any correction is needed.

(*) here, in good faith I determine that the Church is not legitimately or correctly governed and, therefore, the decision to withhold jurisdiction from the SSPX is not licit. But this generates another doubt... can a faithful usurp the decision/ruling that should rest ptoper only with an Ecclesiastical court? Is it not pride to substitute oneself because one's opinions contradict that of the church? Sorry for this never ending chain of questoins...

Lay people have a duty to make practical judgments on those matters which affect our daily lives.  As parents, we are obliged to pass on the Faith to our children.  As Catholics, we have an obligation to attend Mass.  We must judge how to best do these things in our personal circuмstances.  The Church has authority to make general rulings, but we have the authority to apply them to our own lives.  

We are in a time of confusion and chaos.  Many people faces situations in which following official rulings seems wrong for various good reasons.  For example, a person might need to choose between attending a Mass that endangers his faith or one that lacks "official" approval.  Such a person is not usurping authority or acting from pride. He is forced by circuмstances to make the decision.

How long did you wait and what did you do inbetween? No Eucharist? No Confession? Only Mass?

During the years before I concluded that I could rightly participate in Sacraments offered by the SSPX, I went through a slow process.  First I went to both Novus Ordo and "Indult" Masses.  Then I reached a point where my husband basically forbade me to attend Novus Ordo Masses because I would become so upset by them.  I attended both SSPX and "indult" Masses but only received Sacraments from "indult".  Eventually I decided that it would be right to receive Sacraments from the SSPX.  (Technicially, after Summorum Pontificuм in 2007 these were not indult Masses, but they were similar enough that this is a reasonable way to refer to them.)

Sorry it took so long to get back to you.  I was babysitting grandchildren this week and it took up the time and energy that I might otherwise have spend on forums.