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Offline donkath

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The impossible reconciliation
« on: June 25, 2013, 02:59:58 AM »
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  • I came across this site when searching for a book by Father Pivert that was highly recommended by one of our valiant resister/priests. The 'Woodpecker' mentioned may be the priest whose book I seek. I don't know. TheGoogle translation from French is not the best. The Link is at the end.

    Dear faithful,
    Here are two books that displease Big Brother. For my safety I am reduced to present you with this mask. The Politburo is in full swing. The Political Commissar Thovonof search day and night the enemies of the party. He shrinks from no repression. You know that above are under enormous pressure to the Commissioner that they approve of texts written by him. Menzingen bad government but defended well!

    In one year: a bishop expelled several priests hunted (Pfeiffer, Chazal, Hewko, Voigt, Trincado, ...) and more than a dozen shelved without ministry (abbots Buffet, Doran, Entsfellner, Faure, Isaguirre, Ortiz Pinaud, Salenave, Vargas, Zaby. And yours truly)

    What to do? Should we hide and keep quiet? But what should we be ashamed? Nothing! So do not have more fear of the truth shout from the rooftops. This is the truth that makes us free. Do as the Father Woodpecker. Take off our masks and act in broad daylight as children of light.

    Thanks to the book of the Abbe Woodpecker, was rediscovered through a thousand known and unknown quotes Lefebvre our religion it is essential: God is our Lord and King. We can better understand the harmfulness of liberal Catholics who betray the reign of Our Lord Jesus Christ and their objective complicity with the enemies of Christ's divinity.

    But strangely the author, instead of receiving praise from the General House, received reprimands. Amazing! Judgments Lefebvre they interfere at this point Menzingen? The Politburo would he censor certain words of Archbishop Lefebvre? These for example:
    (1975) "What is left intact the pre-conciliar Church? [...] This is the greatest service we can render to the Catholic Church to reject the Reformed Church and liberal ... "(1976)" I tell you, my dear brethren, what is the Revolution is nothing compared to what was done by the Second Vatican Council, nothing! "
    (1978) "We are not afraid to say that this ecuмenism comes straight secret pharmacies of Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ"
    (1988) "It is an absolute necessity to study liberalism and understand it and I think many of those who have left us to join Rome, supposedly, did not understand what liberalism and how the Roman authorities since the Council are infested with these errors. "
    (1991) "The introduction of this" "conciliar Church imbued with the principles of 89 Masonic principles vis-à-vis religion and religions, vis-à-vis civil society, is a sham inspired by Hell for the destruction of religion "
    Thanks to the work of Father Woodpecker, we understand that it is the faith of Archbishop Lefebvre in Christ the King and his heroic love of the transcendent truth that protected Tradition traps modernist Rome.
    In fact from 1971 to 1988 Archbishop Lefebvre had hoped to reconcile the proclamation and defense of the faith with a practical agreement in the official and liberal Rome. But in 1988 he realized that it was illusory He admitted himself that the judgment of some faithful had just been warned: their dealings with Rome were dangerous and a waste of time: he said: "I think I can say that I went even farther than I have not had to go. "
    From 1988 to 1991, he draws lessons from the past and takes stock for the future:
    1) I will put conditions on the doctrinal level with retractions liberal errors: if no argument (it does not even talk of agreement but discussion)!
    2) we are faced with another religion now, they have more faith in the supernatural, the official Church is governed by principles that are not Catholic: we replace religion with another religion, it is what we are witnessing say Lefebvre seminarians Ecône on 11 February 1991.
    Unfortunately after the death of Archbishop Lefebvre, colleagues, major superiors did not want or did not have the heroic courage of our founder to continue his line. And little by little, they wanted result Tradition in a practical agreement putting the liberal doctrine and errors in parentheses to borrow a phrase of Father Lorans at a conference in Saint-Malo in 2011. In 2006, the healthy part of the Brotherhood had stopped this infidel policy: we carved in stone judgment of Archbishop Lefebvre against the apocalyptic apostasy impractical agreement without doctrinal agreement or otherwise not concurred practice before conversion Rome conversion will be public and obvious and not materialize condemnation of liberal errors as did all the popes before Vatican II.

    Unfortunately in 2012, Bishop Fellay, motu proprio, has trashed this principle. He attempted a reconciliation impossible, hence the title of our book. Reconciliation of irreconcilable is impossible; there will be a conversion of Rome is a betrayal of the Brotherhood.
    Since that time the Society has lost its unity, and that nothing will. Bishop Fellay has abused his authority by trying to put us under the power of the official Church while all signs showed that she was not converted to Christ the King, but opposed to his rule.
    These problems if they burst in public recently, were not born one day in June 2012. This crazy ѕυιcιdє operation was the result of a long preparation and an intense desire of some members of the Brotherhood.

    This book will show you how it all began with the Pilgrimage of the SSPX for the Jubilee Year 2000. This year, Bishop Fellay gave an interview to 30 Days in which he said that "if the Pope called me, I run. This is certain. In filial obedience towards the head of the Church. "In this response are contained the seeds of all the events that will occur over the next ten years.
    In this interview, Bishop Fellay also admitted that one must be "realistic", that "Rome" will never "say we were wrong with Vatican II" but that the "Vatican" will "be able to find the formula appropriate "to arrange, he" will not be necessary to say what the errors of the New Mass: it will be sufficient to grant the priests who want the opportunity to celebrate Mass with the ritual they prefer. "Etc..

    This book has three parts.
    A very short first part: the 10 words of our founder to remember regarding our topic.
    The second part is a chronological and synthetic materials memento years 2000-2012 taking all their lighting thanks to recent events.
    The third part concerns the historical texts of the period 2012-2013: some are new, others have been put on the Internet, but we had to put them back before their eyes because they were either very important or too unknown. The movement on the net is too fast for intelligence. These quality docuмents are timeless, yet they must feed our minds and help us with a contemplative life and love of truth to a greater union with God.

    This book will remind us, because who remembers? How 2000 Cardinal Hoyos already spoke of "the Brotherhood" as a "Society of Apostolic Life with special rite of the protocol signed by Ratzinger and Archbishop Lefebvre" and "lifting of the excommunication."
    In 2001, the General Council gave its approval to the negotiations, asking only two "preconditions" but shortly after, Bishop Fellay clarified: "It was not, strictly speaking, as we wrote here are pre-conditions: a Catholic can not submit to Rome conditions! "
    This book will remind you of how the priests of Campos, the official contact was the beginning of the end ... to reach agreement in 2002.
    How to end an interview, Benedict XVI and Bishop Fellay in 2005, are "reached a consensus to proceed in stages in solving problems. "
    How, in 2007, Bishop Fellay watered, speaking of "subtle and awkward distinction", the blasphemous and demonic ambiguity of the Motu proprio of Benedict XVI speaks of ordinary and extraordinary forms of the same rite to talk about mass bastard and the Tridentine Mass (Lab, No. 71, November 1)
    In fact, in 2002, at a conference in Kansas City, Bishop Fellay believed that "the general law of the Church" is the "New Mass" and asked only that "the old Mass is also the general law. "
    Who also remembers the speech of Cardinal Castrillón Bishop Fellay, explaining that "subjectively believe you have acted rightly and therefore no fault, no penalty, no excommunication. But outside, it is an objective fact, there was this act that gave the appearance of a 'rebellion' against Rome, and that title there was censorship. So you should remove it as well. "
    This book will remind you that in January 2009, Cardinal Hoyos entrusted to the Italian press: "One thing is certain: The full communion happen in our conversations, Bishop Fellay recognized the Second Vatican Council, he acknowledged theologically.. only a few difficulties. "
    This explains the manipulation of news made by the General House in 2009 about the lifting of the excommunication of Bishop Fellay wrote: "we accept and make our own all the councils up to Vatican II ..." And they made us believe in reality he wrote: "we accept and make our own all the councils up to Vatican I. "" The first is true, the second version is a translation for the use of public opinion of the SSPX "confessed a modern well informed. Etc.. Etc.. Etc..
    To get to 13 June 2012. Bishop Fellay was ready to sign an agreement with Rome on the basis of his letter that "he had to say at the same time we agreed and we did not agree" What is called denying the principle of non-contradiction! But this letter is now known: we know Bishop Fellay thought the unthinkable. No one could imagine that a priest formed Écône and sacred by Archbishop Lefebvre could happen to think he wrote Bishop. Bishop Fellay and regret nothing except the "current context of the Brotherhood" which prevented him to sign!

    Finally, do not forget that the last official docuмent on the relationship between Rome and the Society is the declaration of the Ecclesia Dei Commission of 27 October 2012:
    Vatican City, October 27, 2012 (VIS). The Pontifical Commission announced that, "in his last match (6 September 2012), the Priestly Fraternity St.Pie X stated that it needed additional time for reflection and study to prepare its response to the latest proposals the Holy See. [...] Today, the Holy See expects the senior official response of the Brotherhood two docuмents. After thirty years of separation, it is understandable that it takes time to assimilate the substance of recent developments. "

    Some will say: A] Bishop Fellay is not signed so there is no longer a problem.
    Answer: When Berliners have heard of a project to build a wall in Berlin was physically lock them in a perverse system, the most lucid did not say when I see the finished wall and the closed doors protected by machine guns then I will go to Berlin and only then I will refuse to be trapped. No! Instead, they tried everything to escape the trap while there was still time. We have enough private and public statements about the project and conciliatory thought Menzingen and thus to act without waiting to be locked in the conciliar Church.

    Others say B] now Bishop Fellay said he did not want and did not want to sign before the conversion of Rome.
    Answer: How can we believe? How to give any confidence in his words seen his actions and past words? In six months intervals Bishop Fellay pass a speech in June 2012 which justifies a canonical solution before a doctrinal solution ... under the pretext that the attitude of the official Church has changed, and he must leave aside the problems secondary (errors of the Council) to deal with major problems in a speech in March 2013, where the situation of the Church remains unchanged and that the Council becomes the principal agent of the destruction of the Church. Two contradictory judgments! In six months! On such a éventement! Formed by a priest by Archbishop Lefebvre! They laugh at us! They laugh at you!

    Recently in May 2013, Bishop Fellay said in a community of sisters opposed to an agreement that there is more possibility of agreement with Rome, as a result of recent discussions is over, but the day to colleagues rather for Bishop Fellay said he expects that agreement François operates a cleaning Curie retry approach.
    It's over but it will retry! Still this double language and that legalistic desire to official Rome. It is still strange that Bishop Fellay does not see today that Monsignor Jouin already saw 100 years ago: the establishment Towards a universal religion, to which cooperates Benedict, Francis and their band.
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    : "We have already said, the most dangerous sects [Masonic] business is not the brutal destruction of the Christian religion, as we see continued by frenzied Godless bands [ Holland ...], but the disintegration of that religion by merely human interpretation of its dogmas and its commandments [Benedict and Francis ...]. It uses the same signs, but they are attached a different meaning. Therefore, it is no longer destroying the religions, but to confuse: the meeting on the same platform, priests of different faiths, the succession to the microphone of the priest and the rabbi, by the simultaneous celebration the church and the temple of the same event. (...) Until the establishment, gradually, a common religion for all men. "(Monsignor Jouin - Towards a universal religion, RISS, 1933 repr 2000, p 13.)
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    I let you discover the rest ...

    Conclude: Here are two must-read books during the holidays. And circulate around you to get out of this deadly torpor our small Catholic world. Priest and the faithful who are blind to stay quiet!
    1) Our relations with Rome in order to Moulin du Pin 53290 Beaumont Beef (22 euros, 360 pages)
    2) The reconciliation impossible to control in order to Edt Ste Jeanne D'arc 18260 Villegenon (16 euros, 176 pages) As a good Father said at the seminar: we are the Church Militant and not sleeping Church. Archbishop Lefebvre told us and told us yet:

    "You live in a time where you have to be heroes or anything. You have a choice: either give up the fight or fight a hero. "


    http://aveclimmaculee.blogspot.com.au/2013/06/limpossible-reconciliation-abbe-rioult.html


    "In His wisdom," says St. Gregory, "almighty God preferred rather to bring good out of evil than never allow evil to occur."


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    The impossible reconciliation
    « Reply #1 on: June 25, 2013, 10:23:22 AM »
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    This looks like the makings of something really great, donkath.

    But the translation -------- ouch!  

    I don't mind having to read between the lines now and then,
    but this is ridiculous!  


    "Recently in May 2013, Bishop Fellay said in a community of sisters opposed to an agreement that there is more possibility of agreement with Rome, as a result of recent discussions is over, but the day to colleagues rather for Bishop Fellay said he expects that agreement François operates a cleaning Curie retry approach.

    "It's over but it will retry! Still this double language and that legalistic desire to official Rome. It is still strange that Bishop Fellay does not see today that [which] Monsignor Jouin already saw 100 years ago: the establishment Towards a universal religion, to which cooperates Benedict, Francis and their band."


    Now, I highly suspect that Msgr. Jouin hardly warned about
    "Benedict, Francis and their band," but that goes along with
    the translation component.



    The point is, it is REALLY strange that Monsignor Jouin
    had clearer vision 100 years ago than His Eagerness
    B. Fellay has today, standing right in the middle of the
     problem!   That's something to think about, for sure!!





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    The impossible reconciliation
    « Reply #2 on: June 25, 2013, 09:30:16 PM »
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  • Yes, Neil Obstat, I wish I could speak French to translate it.
    "In His wisdom," says St. Gregory, "almighty God preferred rather to bring good out of evil than never allow evil to occur."