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Offline ProtectorofOrder

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The Feudal System may have been right?
« on: July 12, 2014, 08:10:18 PM »
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    • Long ago in Christendom people said that Capitalism would not work and all it would do is eventually evolve into another Feudal System because the Feudal System is the natural order. They said that the feudal system is the best we could possibly have. In the Feudal system instead of the state being the one to do welfare the church does welfare as it should.

    What if they might be right? Because after all with Capitalism today it is turning into neo-feudalism. The corporation owners are becoming the new Lords. The only difference is that we don't have a King, it has some degree of meritocracy and that the church has been separated from the state. What the workers have to work for to earn in a month most of the time the CEOs or whatever you call them just end up earning in 1 hour.

    Do you think people could have been right? That the Feudal System could really be the natural order of things and no matter how hard people are trying to get away it will eventually revert back to it whether we like it or not? Could what is happening now already prove the feudal system is indeed the natural order? The Feudal System stayed stable and worked well for hundreds of years or over a thousand without becoming like another system while what we have now worked to some degree to maybe a few hundred years until it started to turn towards Feudalism once again.

    What do you think?
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    « Reply #1 on: July 12, 2014, 08:20:48 PM »
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    • Well that's one interesting question.

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    « Reply #2 on: July 12, 2014, 09:47:59 PM »
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    The Feudal System may have been right?
    « Reply #3 on: July 12, 2014, 10:37:58 PM »
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    • I don't see anything wrong with the feudal system as compared to capitalism.
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    « Reply #4 on: July 13, 2014, 12:49:33 AM »
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    Long ago in Christendom people said that Capitalism would not work and all it would do is eventually evolve into another Feudal System because the Feudal System is the natural order.


    Who be dem people?
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    « Reply #5 on: July 13, 2014, 07:08:28 AM »
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    « Reply #6 on: July 13, 2014, 07:36:20 AM »
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    • Due to our fallen nature, no economic or political system we devise to going to be perfect.  At least in today's world you have the option of owning your own land.  In the feudal system, unless you were born into the nobility, you were out of luck.
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    « Reply #7 on: July 13, 2014, 10:01:47 AM »
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    • Quote from: Dolores
    Due to our fallen nature, no economic or political system we devise to going to be perfect.

    That's true.

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    At least in today's world you have the option of owning your own land.  In the feudal system, unless you were born into the nobility, you were out of luck.

    That's what I also used to think until very recently. A great book called 'St. Francis of Assisi, Thirteenth Century' briefly explains (if I recall correctly) that enterprising peasants could and did buy land.  They weren't necessarily forbidden from having other sources of income or owning property.  (The author doesn't advocate a return to the feudal system, but she does argue that its horrors are somewhat blown out of proportion.)

    The thing that appeals to me about the feudal system is how it seems to foster greater accountability.  When the king or local lord failed in his duty it seems to me that it must have been more of a public failure and he could be admonished. What we have now is a government that's so bloated it's usually impossible to figure out exactly who's responsible when anything goes wrong.

    I think the feudal system could return but first there'd have to be a collapse of this one. I don't think anything else will make it attractive.
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    The Feudal System may have been right?
    « Reply #8 on: July 13, 2014, 10:17:27 PM »
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    • I heard it's already about to collapse, that it's failing. The 1% get 40% of the distribution of the wealth. With the dismantling of welfare in some countries hopefully if this system collapses people will look again to the church and the feudal system. The church will provide the welfare, education and assistance to us as it always has in the past.

    The church will make it less harsh when combined with the state and perhaps make anti-discrimination laws which ensure all people respect each other.
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    The Feudal System may have been right?
    « Reply #9 on: July 13, 2014, 10:19:32 PM »
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    Long ago in Christendom people said that Capitalism would not work and all it would do is eventually evolve into another Feudal System because the Feudal System is the natural order.


    Who be dem people?


    The people who were critics of capitalism in the past and defended feudalism in the debate between when it was an idea and when it just came out.
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