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The Defection of the Vatican
« on: December 11, 2006, 09:20:43 AM »
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  • To what force or forces do you attribute it? Do you think it was brought about on purpose, or did it just evolve? If on purpose, who was behind it?
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    « Reply #1 on: December 11, 2006, 02:11:07 PM »
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  • Wow, of course ultimately Satan. But, human wise, have you ever read the Alta Vendetta, Masonry's plan to take over the Vatican. Also, Bella Dodd, former communist herself, received into the Church by none other than then Monsignor Fulton J. Sheen, told of the comunists plan to infiltrate the Church with pretend priests. Now someone can probably explain better than I the link that homosexual behaviour is used by communists to break down the moral fiber of any culture, that and porn and that comes courtesy of our friendly neighborhood zionist.


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    « Reply #2 on: December 11, 2006, 09:01:31 PM »
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    Thanks, Dawn. I had in mind the work of Maurice Pinay which was handed out to all the bishops at VII. But I know it has to go before that (VII) because John XXIII and Paul VI were already "turned". I was hoping we could piece this together and go back until we can say, "Ah, ha! This is it!" or "them".

    Since we are busy tracing the genocides and other atrocities of a physical nature, it is also the right time to trace this genocide of souls, which is far worse. And I know I can't do it alone.

    I don't think I've read the Alta Vendetta, but I've read of Bella Dodd. Can you give us a summary of each. I kind of have an idea of making a map, like a geneological table, tracing each thing back to its root. I say "root" because I think we are talking about one group which is at the bottom of all of this.


    My dear girl, you give my old menopausal brain too much credit. I think some of my hot flashes have cooked it!!

    Well now, I do hope one of the ones who studies this chimes in, but, I think that the Rennaissance is actually where all of the trouble really got brewing. That would be the period where everyone started to become "enlightened" Gallileo contradicted the Bible and stated the earth revolves around the sun, not that the sun revolves around the earth which is the center of the universe for the specific reason that on one most Holy Spot, Jesus Christ, Second person of the Blessed Trinity was born there, walked, lived and died and resurrected there.
    Newton's theories others in the "scientific" world helped. Pretty soon we had a logical explanation for everything, and those that still held to the teachings of the Church were staying in the "dark ages."
    I think next came all of the leaders of the Protestant revolt (no reformation). It is all a form of the original "I will not serve." All has this in common that they can become as God. Sound familiar. Naturally somewhere in here our good friends the Masons formed with the sole purpose of undermining the True Church and forming this goofy brotherhood of man.
    Next, the revolutions, America which was alot of hooey about toleration for the religions, and especially Catholics who were under similar laws as those in Ireland and England at the time.
    France which was surely a jewel in the Mason's crown. Destroying the Church, eliminating the Monarchy. Did you know that they would read the Creed and if the condemed said they believed, boom enemy of the government and off to the guillotine. Another sign to seal their death was if the were caught wearing the Sacred Heart Badge.
    Also, they stole some of the Catholic King Louis XVI's blood to use in their black mass services.
    More revolutions, no more monarchies except of course the English Masonic one. Jokes on them, with all of their evil plannings they are falling in their own hole they dug because the Muslims are taking over.
    Now then, the popes Pius IX, (learned the hard way to give up liberal ideas and became a blessed Pope and teacher), Pius X, Pius XI, Pius XII and Leo XIII all knew the evil of modernism was leaking in the Church. They wrote endless encyclicals against these evil ideas. Remember, that Benedict XVI is on record as making a counter Syllabus. He openly stated that he does not believe in or support the teachings of a former pope and will counter them.
    I read once that Pius X died of a broken heart because he could not do enough to stop these relentless demons. Look at a picture of him, what a kind face that exudes a Holy, Fatherly love for us all.
    Now, then don't forget that Our Lady was right there during all of these times, Guadalupe, LaSallette, Fatima, Lourdes. Warning us, protecting us. Then came the World Wars, that is a whole other story of how those monsters used WWI to restructure Europe, taking out the Austrian Monarchy, the last Catholic one, driving Blessed Emperor Charles off the throne and into exile. Setting the stage for someone to fill the bill for starting the next phase of there plans, up steps Hitler.
    WWII saw the beginning of the destruction of the American home life, all planned of course. The men went to war, the women stayed home and became quasi-men. Rosie the Rivitor, who eventually became Rosie O'Donnell!!!
    Hollywood works alongside these people, or should I say is these people. Making moves that further these ideas. Independent men-women like Kate, the adultress, Hepburn.
    Then comes the televised assasination of the only "Catholic" president of this country. I know he stated that his faith would not enter into his running this country. That stole our innnocence and set the stage for Viet Nam (where Kennedy helped unseat and assasinate the Catholic leader of the country who was trying to keep out commies, and by the way was a relative of Bishop Thuc)
    Women's lib, burning draft cards, Peyton Place and Vatican II.
    I recently read where though American Bishops did not lead VII they did play there role as they have since the first Bishop in America, recommended highly by Ben Franklin (there is a CLUE), John Carrol of the Carrol Family, Charles signed the Declaration of Independence, Daniel was a Mason.
    Then do not forget Bishop Ireland and the rest who drowned out the forerunners to us the Traditionalists.
    Ireland was instrumental in helping wipe out Catholic schools in American and wanted them completely gone as a matter of fact supported public schools very openly.
    Still, the old guard in Europe was what let VII happen. There were not enough and not strong enough. Too many of those bishops and cardinals had sold out.

    Let me know if this helps make things clear as mud. It is the most sickening twisted tale.

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    « Reply #3 on: December 12, 2006, 10:28:00 AM »
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    « Reply #4 on: December 12, 2006, 10:30:53 AM »
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  • I recommend that you scout around on Tradition in Action and Daily Catholic, and Traditio. Get books from Solange Hertz from the Remnant. Angelus Press has real history books as well. Solange from Remnant because on Amazon I saw the same books the Remnant sells for about $15.00 going for almost $200.00


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    « Reply #5 on: December 13, 2006, 09:18:21 AM »
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  • Way to go. I will finish reading later. Can't forget that poor Queen of Spain Isabella, if we had not lost our way she would be a saint. The biggest fault newchurch has? Bettchya can't guess!!!! :rahrah: The Jews. She tried to protect them but gave them strict orders stay in this part of my country and behave. RRIIGGHHTT. The did not she had to expel them and she is blamed for picking on them when she was trying to protect her people.

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    « Reply #6 on: December 13, 2006, 12:08:01 PM »
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  • No kidding! Where are the others? :confused1: I was counting on luki, campy, anty they know quite a bit. Sorry if I forgot anyone

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    « Reply #7 on: December 13, 2006, 02:12:48 PM »
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    No kidding! Where are the others? :confused1: I was counting on luki, campy, anty they know quite a bit. Sorry if I forgot anyone


    Hi Dawn,

    Sorry did not mean to ignore,I was working on 'concentration camps' & then started to look into the 'protocols'.
    I just thought you & Trinity were doing a great job here. :smile:


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    « Reply #8 on: December 13, 2006, 02:58:49 PM »
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    But now we're in your field and not even in your ballpark.


    I'm about like Dawn on this, I put it to satan & his purpose to become god. Also I think Maurice Pinay is a very good source of info too,every Christian should have that book.  :pray:

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    « Reply #9 on: December 13, 2006, 04:18:36 PM »
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  • Howdy Anty. I am just alway  impressed with your imput. Let's be real here. We get into some pretty deep stuff on this board and have lots of reading and research to do. We really have never gone off on goofy tangents like they do on FE. We be intellygunt!!!!

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    « Reply #10 on: December 13, 2006, 06:14:16 PM »
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    « Reply #11 on: December 13, 2006, 06:24:43 PM »
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  • The above book I 'do not' agree with all that the author has written which is very seldom that I read anything I totally agree with. But he has some historical info as to the secret societies & freemsonry that you may be able to put in context to what you already know.

    He seems to dismiss the involvement of jews in the secret societies as being very small, which I found to be otherwise.
     

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    « Reply #12 on: December 13, 2006, 07:38:22 PM »
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    Scottish Rite is not controlled by Jews, but by Gentiles who claim to be Jews, but are not.

    If he doesn't mean Khazars by this, then the man has slipped a cog.

    This is some tough chewing.


    You know its a little scary that you & I think alike too much.
    I thought the same thing. But you have to admit alot of people do not know about the 'khazars'.

    That is what I mean't by putting what you read into context of what you know!!! :pop:

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    « Reply #13 on: December 13, 2006, 09:08:54 PM »
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    Howdy Anty. I am just alway  impressed with your imput. Let's be real here. We get into some pretty deep stuff on this board and have lots of reading and research to do. We really have never gone off on goofy tangents like they do on FE. We be intellygunt!!!!



    Hi Dawn,
    Thanks but I know a little bit about everything & a whole lotta
    about nothing,so does that make me intellygunt? :scratchchin:

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    « Reply #14 on: December 14, 2006, 10:17:28 AM »
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  • I've been trying to find Voltaire's ten steps to destroy Christianity, and I can't find it.  This is the only article which even mentions it.
    +RIP
    Please pray for the repose of her soul.

     

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