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  • Islamic Refugee Crisis: Good Samaritan or Maccabean Response? Or both
    By Dr. Taylor Marshall

    What would Thomas Aquinas Say?

    What would Saint Thomas Aquinas say about the Refugee Crisis?

    We as Christians are debating among ourselves about whether or not we have a moral duty to receive refugees fleeing Muslim nations.



    This article is politically incorrect and says things that might shock you. Please read the entire article until the very last two paragraphs before making a judgment or writing incendiary comments. This might be one of the clearest things you’ve read on the topic, because it draws on virtue ethics of Thomas Aquinas – something generally ignored in our day and age. – Godspeed, Taylor Marshall


    Are We Good Samaritans?

    As Christians we remember Our Lord’s parable about the Good Samaritan recounting how the outwardly religious clerics (the priest and the levite) passed the injured man in the road, but how the Samaritan proved to “be his neighbor” and care for him. Christ rebukes the outwardly religious hypocrites and commends the good Samaritan.

    When it comes to the refugee crises, none of us wants to be the hypocrite who turns his steps to the opposite side of road to avoid caring for an injured victim.

    Or Are We Good Maccabeans?

    Meanwhile, if you are Catholic, you’ve been listening to the book of Maccabees this week in the daily Mass readings. These biblical lessons approvingly recount how Mattathias along with his Maccabean sons and companions rightfully used physical violence against their political oppressors the Seleucid Greeks who were actively using force to undermine the conscience and convictions of the People of God.

    So which are we?

    Are we the caring Samaritans or the crusading Maccabeans?

    The Catholic political theology of Saint Thomas Aquinas can help us with this question:

    Thomas Aquinas Black largeLet’s first suspend all emotional appeals, and set down a few logical and calm points of agreement to get us all on the same page:
    •In the Summa theologiae, Thomas Aquinas places politics under the civic virtue of patriotism which is itself a sub-virtue of justice. Our discussion is ultimately not about “politics” but the virtuous duties of justice toward God, our families, our nations, and all of humanity (in that order).
    •For Thomas Aquinas, all political human laws must be: 1) in accord with reason; 2) published or promulgated; 3) by rightful political authority; and for the common good (See STh q. 90, aa. 1-4). If a political law is lacking in any of these four attributes, it is for Thomas, not a law at all.
    •The duty of the political magistrates (the Republic or Kingdom) are by the virtue of justice different than the duty of the civilian person. Citizens are not de facto judges, soldiers, police officers, or legislators (STh q. 90, a. 3).
    •Muslims explicitly affirm that Muhammad is the Last Prophet of God.
    •Muslims explicitly affirm that Our Lord Jesus Christ is certainly not the Son of God.
    •These two Muslim affirmations place all Muslims in implicit or explicit theological contradiction with Christians who profess Jesus Christ as the Son of God and consequently conclude that Muhammad was a false prophet.
    •For Sunni Muslims (the majority of global Muslims), the mandate to erect Sharia law in every human government is a doctrine of faith. Muslims must in accord with their conscience pursue this theological belief that Sharia law must be promulgated in every human society (England, France, Poland, USA, Mexico, etc.)

    So how does this apply to Refugees from Islamic nations?

    When we move through the logical points above, we begin to discover a few logical conclusions:
    1.Muslims are bound by conscience to erect Sharia law in your nation. This is a bad thing for baptized Christians. At best it means being taxed at a higher rate (the Muslim jizya tax for Christians). At worse it means death.
    2.If you live in a democracy, a 51% political Islamic majority will allow “we the people” to promulgate Sharia law. They are following their conscience and religious beliefs in this matter. They will do this just as they have done in any other community where they captured the majority (Mecca, Palestine, Egypt, Syria, etc.)
    3.It is a duty of of justice for Christian people to strive to prevent the promulgation of false laws (i.e. those contrary to reason or the common good). Christians are called to be politically active and advocates for the common good and natural law.
    4.While we have the Christian duty to care for the refugee, the sick, the victim, and the injured, we have a greater common duty by justice to preserve the state of law and our religious liberty first and foremost.

    We see this principle in our Scriptural readings. When it comes to the Samaritan, he rightfully cares for the victim. However, when it comes to the nation and the threat of terrorism (Seleucid Greeks), false laws, and the danger of our children, military, and civic peace, we (like the Maccabees) are politically obliged to resist, protect, and expel…for the common good.

    The Analogy of the Familial Home

    I am the head of a household. I earn an income to feed my wife and my children. With my surplus, I care for orphans, widows, the church, pro-life causes, single-mothers, and other apostolates that I feel God has called me to support.

    Justice and charity demand that I care for the less fortunate and it is a Catholic belief that our salvation depends on how we treat the hungry, the naked, the homeless, and the sick.

    MOREOVER….

    I am not obliged to take the homeless into my house and have them sleep in my daughter’s bedroom at night. I am not obliged by justice or charity to give the homeless a vote over my financial decisions. He does not have the right to choose what’s for dinner. The homeless man does not (by my charity) receive a right to my continued support. The homeless man cannot share a bed with my wife when I am traveling. Nor may he presume a right over my children’s belongings.

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    Since we live in a democracy (“we the people”), political refugees de facto gain a measure of political authority over our laws, taxes, finances, military, religious holidays, and legislative bodies.

    This principle applies to refugees universally. It applies even more so when the refugee in his conscience believes that he is morally obligated to introduce and vote for the enshrinement of Sharia law.

    There is also the further problem that 5%-20% of global Muslims are considered to be “radicalized,” which means that they are consciously willing to use terrorist tactics to advance their Muslim worldview against the West. If you knew that 10% of your child’s Halloween candy was poisoned, would you allow your child to consume any of it?

    So what would Thomas Aquinas say?

    I’m afraid that Thomas would be much harsher than most of us would feel comfortable with.

    Thomas prizes the “common good” so highly under the virtue of political justice that he openly promotes arms and capital punishment against those who are publicly “dangerous and infectious.”

    The common good is the peace of society so that life and faith can thrive. Babies can be born and have a happy life. Grandparents can grow old together. Anyone who seeks to destroy the common good should be, according to Thomas, destroyed.

    Thomas Aquinas also taught that anyone that fomented “danger to the community” or heretical movements is worthy of the death penalty:


    “Therefore if a man be dangerous and infectious to the community, on account of some sin, it is praiseworthy and advantageous that he be killed in order to safeguard the common good.” STh II-II q. 64, a. 2.

    It is permissible to kill a criminal if this is necessary for the welfare of the whole community. However, this right belongs only to the one entrusted with the care of the whole community — just as a doctor may cut off an infected limb, since he has been entrusted with the care of the health of the whole body. STh II-II q. 64, a. 3.

    Have no doubt that Thomas Aquinas would have stated that Christian nations should receive Christian refugees but refuse Muslim refugees for the sake of national justice and the common good. The Muslim’s official declaration of faith denies natural law (eg, polygamy), religious liberty (eg, Sharia), and the implicitly Muhammad’s teach and example of political violence.

    What’s our Catholic Response? The Samaritan Uses the Hotel

    We Christians should be generous with humanitarian aid toward Muslims and all people. We should send money and resources to those who have been dispossessed. We should be loving and generous with Muslims. Kindness brings about conversion and understanding. We should also try to topple the Islamic State and eradicate terrorism in our lands and in the Islamic lands.

    Remember the Good Samaritan! He did not take the roadside victim home with him. Rather, the Good Samaritan put the victim up in a hotel and paid for him to get better. The Good Samaritan was good and commended by Christ. The Good Samaritan did the right thing: humanitarian aid.

    We are not required by Christ to take victims that oppose our faith and our way of life and make them into our political heirs. We are not required to take them into our homes.

    But we are obliged to help them. And if terrorists use our charity as a pretense to hurt us, then, as Thomas Aquinas says, they should be swiftly destroyed.

    Saint Thomas Aquinas, pray for us.

    Godspeed,
     Taylor Marshall

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    « Reply #1 on: November 20, 2015, 05:16:46 AM »
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  • It is a red herring to talk about refugees - great many of these people are not refugees but economic migrants from Northern Africa, Afghanistan and Pakistan who come to Europe hoping for benefits, free housing etc. They do not integrate with the Western society, form their ghettos in European cities and are easily radicalized. The problem is not only terrorism (it is already docuмented that there are ISIS fighters disguised among the immigrants), but also their support for Sharia Law with all its atrocities, degradation of women and their contempt for democratic institutions and freedom of speech (I am not a fan of democracy, bringing back the Catholic monarchies in Europe would be much better, but of course I prefer democracy over what Muslims want to impose on us). The criminal activity among the immigrants is also very high (70% of criminals in French prisons are Muslims, 77% of rapes in Sweden are commited by Muslim immigrants, many other examples could be put forward). What we see is a conquest of Europe.


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    « Reply #2 on: November 20, 2015, 06:35:03 AM »
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  • I have just one question.  If these people are truly refugees, how is it I see so many of them on tv using cell phones?  And related:  Who's paying the bills?

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  • Immigration is a modern problem and so some might think that the medieval Saint Thomas would have no opinion about the problem. And yet, he does. One has only to look in his masterpiece, the Summa Theologica, in the second part of the first part, question 105, article 3 (I-II, Q. 105, Art. 3). There one finds his analysis based on biblical insights that can add to the national debate. They are entirely applicable to the present.

    Saint Thomas: “Man’s relations with foreigners are twofold: peaceful, and hostile: and in directing both kinds of relation the Law contained suitable precepts.”

    Commentary: In making this affirmation, Saint Thomas affirms that not all immigrants are equal. Every nation has the right to decide which immigrants are beneficial, that is, “peaceful,” to the common good. As a matter of self-defense, the State can reject those criminal elements, traitors, enemies and others who it deems harmful or “hostile” to its citizens.

    The second thing he affirms is that the manner of dealing with immigration is determined by law in the cases of both beneficial and “hostile” immigration. The State has the right and duty to apply its law.

    Saint Thomas: “For the Jєωs were offered three opportunities of peaceful relations with foreigners. First, when foreigners passed through their land as travelers. Secondly, when they came to dwell in their land as newcomers. And in both these respects the Law made kind provision in its precepts: for it is written (Exodus 22:21): ’Thou shalt not molest a stranger [advenam]’; and again (Exodus 22:9): ’Thou shalt not molest a stranger [peregrino].’”

    Commentary: Here Saint Thomas acknowledges the fact that others will want to come to visit or even stay in the land for some time. Such foreigners deserved to be treated with charity, respect and courtesy, which is due to any human of good will. In these cases, the law can and should protect foreigners from being badly treated or molested.

    Saint Thomas: “Thirdly, when any foreigners wished to be admitted entirely to their fellowship and mode of worship. With regard to these a certain order was observed. For they were not at once admitted to citizenship: just as it was law with some nations that no one was deemed a citizen except after two or three generations, as the Philosopher says (Polit. iii, 1).”

    Commentary: Saint Thomas recognizes that there will be those who will want to stay and become citizens of the lands they visit. However, he sets as the first condition for acceptance a desire to integrate fully into what would today be considered the culture and life of the nation.

    A second condition is that the granting of citizenship would not be immediate. The integration process takes time. People need to adapt themselves to the nation. He quotes the philosopher Aristotle as saying this process was once deemed to take two or three generations. Saint Thomas himself does not give a timeframe for this integration, but he does admit that it can take a long time.

    Saint Thomas: “The reason for this was that if foreigners were allowed to meddle with the affairs of a nation as soon as they settled down in its midst, many dangers might occur, since the foreigners not yet having the common good firmly at heart might attempt something hurtful to the people.”

    Commentary: The common sense of Saint Thomas is certainly not politically correct but it is logical. The theologian notes that living in a nation is a complex thing. It takes time to know the issues affecting the nation. Those familiar with the long history of their nation are in the best position to make the long-term decisions about its future. It is harmful and unjust to put the future of a place in the hands of those recently arrived, who, although through no fault of their own, have little idea of what is happening or has happened in the nation. Such a policy could lead to the destruction of the nation.

    As an illustration of this point, Saint Thomas later notes that the Jєωιѕн people did not treat all nations equally since those nations closer to them were more quickly integrated into the population than those who were not as close. Some hostile peoples were not to be admitted at all into full fellowship due to their enmity toward the Jєωιѕн people.

    Saint Thomas: “Nevertheless it was possible by dispensation for a man to be admitted to citizenship on account of some act of virtue: thus it is related (Judith 14:6) that Achior, the captain of the children of Ammon, ‘was joined to the people of Israel, with all the succession of his kindred.’”

    Commentary: That is to say, the rules were not rigid. There were exceptions that were granted based on the circuмstances. However, such exceptions were not arbitrary but always had in mind the common good. The example of Achior describes the citizenship bestowed upon the captain and his children for the good services rendered to the nation.

    * * *

    These are some of the thoughts of Saint Thomas Aquinas on the matter of immigration based on biblical principles. It is clear that immigration must have two things in mind: the first is the nation’s unity; and the second is the common good.

    Immigration should have as its goal integration, not disintegration or segregation. The immigrant should not only desire to assume the benefits but the responsibilities of joining into the full fellowship of the nation. By becoming a citizen, a person becomes part of a broad family over the long term and not a shareholder in a joint stock company seeking only short-term self-interest.

    Secondly, Saint Thomas teaches that immigration must have in mind the common good; it cannot destroy or overwhelm a nation.

    This explains why so many Americans experience uneasiness caused by massive and disproportional immigration. Such policy artificially introduces a situation that destroys common points of unity and overwhelms the ability of a society to absorb new elements organically into a unified culture. The common good is no longer considered.

    A proportional immigration has always been a healthy development in a society since itSubscription11 injects new life and qualities into a social body. But when it loses that proportion and undermines the purpose of the State, it threatens the well-being of the nation.

    When this happens, the nation would do well to follow the advice of Saint Thomas Aquinas and biblical principles. The nation must practice justice and charity towards all, including foreigners, but it must above all safeguard the common good and its unity, without which no country can long endure.

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  • Thanks - that's so helpful. Here's a better link to that article:

    http://taylormarshall.com/
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  • The Hungarian bishop said that these people are invaders; not refugees.  

    They have cell phones and yet no one has id, visas, passports, drivers license, baptism or marriage certificates.  
    May God bless you and keep you

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  • Get ready the war is starting to arrive.
    We must be prepared and be together
    or divided we will be weaker than our
    enemies that afflict us now.

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    « Reply #7 on: November 20, 2015, 01:38:14 PM »
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  • Below is a map of the U.S. showing the current locations of the Islamic
    Terrorist Camps networks in America.

    Many of the so called refugees are not Syrian. Many have come from
    Libya, Iraq, and other middle eastern countries that are victims of
    U.S. and other coalition countries bombings.

    I heard that none of the refugees that are Christians are not allowed
    into the U.S. per orders by Obama. This is covered up by the mass
    media that are controlled by Jєωs.

    The purpose of this refugee crisis is to make the first world countries
    poor and multicultural.  And servants of Israel.

    Our politicians are bought off by Jєωιѕн money and will do what the
    Jєωs tell them or they will lose their elections.
    Also thank George Soros, a Jєω who betrayed his own people during
    WW2.

    The U.S. Map.

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    « Reply #8 on: November 20, 2015, 04:00:31 PM »
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  • Kind of ironic  that a statue the French gave to the  U.S. is being used to promote Syrian refugees into the country.    

    http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2015/11/20/cuomo-statue-of-liberty-refugees/

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  • The Thomistic analysis is solid, but why stop with Muslims? The ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan seeks to press their anti-Christ halakhic and Noahide law upon us (beheading for Catholics who worship Jesus as True God and True Man). It is not merely a matter of theoretical concern, since the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan is disproportionately responsible for unjust wars, genocide, usury and other economic crimes against humanity, pornography, abortion, sex slavery, tax farming, and the de-Christianization of our nations. Expel them too!

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  • Archbishop Lefebvre, Islam and the Media



    Archbishop Lefebvre, Islam and the Media

     


    During a gathering of the press in France on November 14, 1989, Archbishop Lefebvre was accused of affirming that “the best  [thing] for the Moslems [to do] would be to go back home.” (see video below) He added that, in France, the Moslems are going “to impose their laws little by little. Christian law cannot be in accord with Islamic law... Moslems cannot be Catholic, they cannot be truly French. We must not allow them to organize themselves politically or religiously. The construction of mosques is a catastrophe!” Turning towards the journalists, His Grace added: “It will be your wives, your daughters, your children, who will be kidnapped and taken away to hidden living quarters in Casablanca.”

    The International League Against Racism and Anti‑Semitism (the LICRA ‑ The French equivalent of the American Civil Liberties Union) brought a civil lawsuit against Archbishop Lefebvre, accusing him of racism and defamation with respect to the Moslem community. At the conclusion of the trial, His Grace was cleared of the charge of racism but, as if making a gesture of compromise, he was found guilty of defamation with respect to the Moslem community and fined 5,000 French francs($1,010.). Archbishop Lefebvre has, of course, appealed this iniquitous judgment! He has only to prove that what he said about the kidnapping of white girls for the harems of the Moslems is true. Since this is a public fact there is no defamation whatsoever with respect to the Moslems. On the contrary, it is an extraordinary scandal and a fact which must be published so that people will realize that we are in the midst of a giant struggle between the true religion and Mohammed’s substitute, Islam. It is in the midst of the threat of a Middle Eastern war that we realize who are the true enemies of the Catholic and European civilization, of which we are the heirs. (Archbishop Lefebvre's statement is below)
     

    Declaration Preliminary to the Court Case of June 21, 1990

    Sirs,

    Invoking the laws of July 29, 1981, and July 1, 1977, 1 am accused firstly of the crime of provocation to discrimination, to hatred or to racial violence with respect to a group of persons on account of their origin or their belonging to a particular ethnic group, nation, race or religion.

    Secondly, of the crime of public defamation with respect to this group... I am supposed to have pronounced these provocative and defamatory words when I held a press conference at the Crillon Hotel on November 14, 1989. I affirm firstly that I did not hold a press conference. I had nothing written and I made no declaration. I only wanted to reply to the journalists’ questions on the occasion of the ceremony for the 60th anniversary of my Priestly Ordination at the Bourget.

    You must admit that Moslem immigration had no special reason to be brought up on this occasion. The least one can say is that my reply was not pre‑meditated. I therefore replied very freely, giving my opinion of the danger of Islamic penetration into a country whose Catholic religion is violently rejected and despised by Islam. The Koran, which is the law of Islam, provokes to discrimination, to hatred and to violence. Do not attribute to me that which I denounce.

    The proofs of this hatred and of this violence are legion both in the past and in the present.

    For as long as Moslems are an insignificant minority in a Christian country they can live in a friendly way, because they follow the laws and customs of the country which accepts them. But as soon as they are numerous and organized they become aggressive and they seek to impose their laws, which are hostile to European civilization. Examples are abundant. Soon they will take charge of our city councils, and will transform our churches into mosques. We will either have to become Moslem, leave the country or become their captives. This is in the profound nature of Islam. It is not I who am racist in denouncing this very racism.

    The pretended defamation is only the statement of obvious facts. Kidnapping of white girls is well known to the police and it still exists today. It is not defamation to denounce the kidnappers of our compatriots. It is to call upon justice and demand the protection of our fellow citizens. If you prevent us from crying out against the nefarious consequences of Islam’s penetration of France and Europe, you render yourselves accomplices to the violence committed in the name of the Koran by Islam in our Christian countries. It is they who have undertaken this procedure against us, a procedure which truly shows the fundamental racism of Islam against the French, against the Jєωs and against every religion which is not Moslem.

    It is not I who am racist because I denounce racism. I lived all my life in the midst of other races ‑ thirty years in Africa, among animists and Moslems. There I strove to bring them both spiritual and material goods ‑ schools, hospitals, etc. They showed their gratitude in decorating me as Officer of the Equatorial Star of Gabon and Grand Officer of the National Order of Senegal, and the French government recognized my overseas services by making me Officer of the Legion of Honor.

    To condemn me as a racist because I seek to protect my country which is menaced in its very existence and Christian traditions... this would be to use justice for injustice. This would be the justice at the service of executioners whose victims have at most the right to keep quiet and to perish. This would be the summit of injustice.

    † Marcel Lefebvre Ecône

    May 12, 1990

    Oringally posted at http://www.sspxasia.com/Docuмents/Archbishop-Lefebvre/Truth_Justice_&_the_News_Media.htm


    Arcbbishop Lefebvre: Press conference, 1989


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    « Reply #11 on: November 21, 2015, 08:13:07 PM »
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  • This is how many Americans feel in a Poll in bringing refugees to America:

    Newsmax

    http://www.newsmax.com/Surveys/Results/id/289/