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The Borgias on Showtime TV
« on: April 02, 2011, 10:43:52 AM »
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  • A new series on Showtime TV starring Jeremy Irons as Rodrigo Borgia or Pope Alexander VI begins on April 3rd.

    Titled "The Original Crime Family"

    I am curious. I am very tempted to watch. My confession is that I did not know about the Borgia family until I started reading on this forum.

    Is it Hollywood trying to disparage the Catholic Church as usual or do you think it will worthwhile?

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    « Reply #1 on: April 02, 2011, 11:01:07 AM »
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  • Quote from: Darcy
    A new series on Showtime TV starring Jeremy Irons as Rodrigo Borgia or Pope Alexander VI begins on April 3rd.

    Titled "The Original Crime Family"

    I am curious. I am very tempted to watch. My confession is that I did not know about the Borgia family until I started reading on this forum.

    Is it Hollywood trying to disparage the Catholic Church as usual or do you think it will worthwhile?


    I doubt it would be something morally acceptable for Catholics to watch.



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    The Borgias on Showtime TV
    « Reply #2 on: April 02, 2011, 11:36:04 AM »
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  • Keywords : TV (go read the sticky in a forum here regarding television), Showtime premium channel, Catholic crime family theme show


    The answer is self-explanatory.

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    « Reply #3 on: April 02, 2011, 11:51:14 AM »
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  • That is what I thought. I usually like to watch historical movies but recently they are behavorially anachronistic in the sense that they depict the characters behaving in the way that people behave today.
    Back in the day I believe there was much more decorum and much was left unsaid. I don't believe people showed all their defects by acting so hysterically all the time as H'wood would like us to believe and 'let it all hang out'.

    It will blaspheme our Church and will only enrage me. And such a coincidence that it comes out at Easter.



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    « Reply #4 on: April 04, 2011, 05:20:04 PM »
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  • At least the clergy were attracted to women back then...
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    « Reply #5 on: April 04, 2011, 05:31:21 PM »
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    It will blaspheme our Church and will only enrage me. And such a coincidence that it comes out at Easter.


    How exactly does it blaspheme the Church?  Sure it takes artistic license but the general theme of Rodrigo and Cesare Borgia being murderous fornicators isn't that far from the truth.  Are you denying this fact?

    The series does feature some "good" characters.  Cardinal Giuliano della Rovere (Colm Feore's character) is portrayed as an ambitious but honest guy who won't sink to the level of the Borgias in order to defeat them.  

    Sure, there's probably some sexual content that we would find morally offensive, but sadly I don't think it's much worse in that sense than the average trash that Hollywood produces.  I DVR'ed the show (I had to go to bed early last night) and just fast forwarded through the few brief sex scenes.

    Overall, it's an interesting show.  I know it's easy to think, "oh, the media's out to get us because we're Catholic," (and that is true in many cases) but besides an occasional sex scene I don't understand what you find morally offensive about The Borgias.

    This reminds me of when I was on CAF and a couple of posters there went nuts about The Departed being "anti-Catholic," when all they were referring to was the obvious villain in the film making a snide remark about fag priests.
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    « Reply #6 on: April 09, 2011, 10:12:19 AM »
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  • I meant that because it was about the Catholic Church that hollywood might use its "artistic license" to portray the Church in a bad light, even worse that the Borgias cast upon it by their bad example.
    That hollywood might focus more on the sins of mere mortals and not the Church itself and thus give the audience the impression that the Church is full of hypocrites and not to be taken seriously.

    I didn't see it so I don't know if or how they did this.

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    « Reply #7 on: April 09, 2011, 10:46:14 AM »
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    and thus give the audience the impression that the Church is full of hypocrites and not to be taken seriously.



    Well if were talking about the Conciliar Church...


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    « Reply #8 on: April 09, 2011, 10:49:00 AM »
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  • I dont know the show looks good to me. I'll watch it when it comes out on DVD as I dont have showtime. It would be very difficult to present the Hierachy of the Church at that time in a positive light (kinda like now) at least then the Church had the faith. Alexander VI may have done some bad stuff but I cant see him convening an Assisi I II or III.

    I would say if it worries you Darcy just rent a good old 50's biblical film like The Ten Commandments or King of Kings Or The Greatest Story Ever Told. Cant go wrong with those.

     

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