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Offline Diego

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« Reply #60 on: June 14, 2012, 09:05:58 AM »
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    Quote from: Sede Catholic
    It does not require an infallible act.


    If it is not infallible and not de fide. No Catholic is bound to it.

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    The Divine Mercy was given many Imprimaturs by the Catholic Church in the Pontificate of Pope Pius XI and in the Pontificate of Pope Pius XII. When the Imprimatur has been given, the Church has spoken. The matter is closed. We are not protestants.  


    An Imprimatur is simply a permission to publish.  An imprimatur is not infallible, not de fide, and no Catholic is bound to it.  Don't believe me? Look at the mountains of Novus Ordo horse droppings published under imprimaturs.

    I am not a Protestant. Since you brought up the subject, I don't know about you.

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    This is from “The Casuist” (A.D. 1906)


    [yawn] Not Magisterium.

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    ...Pope Benedict XIV said: When the Church has examined and approved these visions, no one may any longer doubt their supernatural and divine origin.


    He says, "these visions." What visions? What is the antecedent of "these"?

    Does this "saying" have ex cathedra character?

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    You are not meant to try and find fault with the decisions of the Church.

    You are supposed to accept the decisions of the Church.

    You are meant to be obedient to the Church.

    That is how the Saints behaved.

    They aspired to perfect obedience to the Church.

    So should we.


    Coming from a sede vacantist pushing a Bogus Ordo fraud, this may be one of the most hypocritical (or schizophrenic) exhortations I have ever heard.

    Where is your side-by-side evidence that the Diary of Many Handwriting Styles has been misquoted? Certainly it is a fraud in itself, but where is your evidence that the fraud has been misquoted?

    Offline Ethelred

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    « Reply #61 on: June 14, 2012, 09:12:11 AM »
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  • If we all could please use larger fonts, my neighbour could read Cathinfo thread's from his house through my glass door to save electricity. Thank you.


    Same text for those few people sitting directly in front of their computers:

    If we all could please use larger fonts, my neighbour could read Cathinfo thread's from his house through my glass door to save electricity. Thank you.

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    Offline SJB

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    « Reply #62 on: June 14, 2012, 09:15:00 AM »
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  • Quote from: Sede Mel Fan
    Why do you ignore the Imprimaturs of the Catholic Church of Pope Pius XI and of Pope Pius XII?


    Can you concisely list these "imprimaturs?" Just list the references as to what was approved and by whom. Please respond with something short and concise.

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    THE NIHIL OBSTATS AND IMPRIMATURS GIVEN TO THE DIVINE MERCY BY THE CATHOLIC CHURCH OF POPE PIUS XI AND POPE PIUS XII GUARANTEE THAT THE DIVINE MERCY IS ENTIRELY FREE FROM ANY THEOLOGICAL ERRORS WHATSOEVER
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    The "nihil obstat" is provided by a censor who reviews the written material. The "imprimatur" is a permission granted for printing by an ordinary.

    Divine Mercy contains theological errors, that is a fact. This is why the Holy Office under Cardinal Ottiavani put the diary on the index and suppressed any local devotions, but I believe it was left to the ordinary to determine the exact timing and method of supression.
    It would be comparatively easy for us to be holy if only we could always see the character of our neighbours either in soft shade or with the kindly deceits of moonlight upon them. Of course, we are not to grow blind to evil

    Offline Diego

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    « Reply #63 on: June 14, 2012, 09:49:26 AM »
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    If we all could please use larger fonts, my neighbour could read Cathinfo thread's from his house through my glass door to save electricity. Thank you.


    Same text for those few people sitting directly in front of their computers:

    If we all could please use larger fonts, my neighbour could read Cathinfo thread's from his house through my glass door to save electricity. Thank you.

    :scratchchin:


    [size=9]Even adults can play.[/size]

    See 3:38 pm here: http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=19145&min=10&num=10

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    « Reply #64 on: June 14, 2012, 10:06:21 AM »
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    Even adults can play.

    See 3:38 pm here: http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=19145&min=10&num=10

    I saw it and got the giggles.
    Diego, you are priceless. :-)




    P.S. Those people having difficulties with the font size on the screen : please install the Firefox browser and use its menu "View" and then sub-menu "Zoom" to increase or decrease all the fonts on screen (ctrl and "+" or "-" key does the same).


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    « Reply #65 on: June 14, 2012, 10:54:42 AM »
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  • Sede Catholic, while I stand corrected on canonizations & read your information on Divine Mercy, I still do not like or believe in the Divine Mercy picture or devotions & have a take it or leave it attitude toward it.  Therefore I don't intend to get in an argument over it.
    I do believe in divine mercy.  That's enough for me.   I don't need signs & wonders.
    "I will lead her into solitude and there I will speak to her heart.  Osee 2:14

    Offline Malleus 01

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    « Reply #66 on: June 14, 2012, 11:45:21 AM »
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    Yes, I was also taught that Canonizations ARE infallible, however, I have also heard that canonizations that were done by the faithful and not the pope are not infallible.  Some saints in the early church were declared Saints from other Christians.   As I said, I am confused about that because it is something that I read on the Internet.  

    If a true pope canonized a saint to Saint, that was infallible.  


    To add to what you have written - Only GOD can elevate a Saint.

    The canonization process is an instrument whereby the Church identifies that this

    has occured.  

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    « Reply #67 on: June 14, 2012, 01:09:55 PM »
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    Even adults can play.

    See 3:38 pm here: http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=19145&min=10&num=10

    I saw it and got the giggles.
    Diego, you are priceless. :-)




    P.S. Those people having difficulties with the font size on the screen : please install the Firefox browser and use its menu "View" and then sub-menu "Zoom" to increase or decrease all the fonts on screen (ctrl and "+" or "-" key does the same).


    Thank you.