Author Topic: Thank you and goodbye (Read 53258 times)

Sede Catholic · « **Reply #375 on:** October 18, 2012, 08:28:56 PM »

Quote from: FaithByProxy

Quote from: PenitentWoman
Nice...PM me one more time and then block me. You are 6 years old, aren't you?

Hon, I wouldn't waste your breath. He isn't worth the aggravation and the silly public argument.

For the record, I feel that you have been unjustly accused by the folks in this forum gossiping about their wild and unfounded theories as to what goes on in your private life. I lurk the forum quite a bit, and have read a lot of the train wreck threads on the topic.

Yes that is very true.

You are obviously a kind person, FaithByProxy.

God Bless you.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #376 on:** October 18, 2012, 09:03:04 PM »

Quote from: Marcelino

Oh please, you don't know what you're even talking about. We had a conversation and she didn't happen to like my opinion, you over grown baby! Gee whiz; don't you know anything about women? Sometimes when they get upset, they go "ape" and start one of these silly brawls, to get attention and use lonely hearts like you, to help them get their revenge.

No, you don't know what you're talking about. And who are you calling an "overgrown baby" and "kiddo"?

Like I said, you need to grow up, Marcelino.

Matthew · « **Reply #377 on:** October 18, 2012, 11:13:12 PM »

Marcelino,

Abusing the quote feature to misquote people is not adult behavior, and allowing it would cause great confusion on a message board.

Therefore I can't allow it. I really don't have a choice here.

Stop, or you're gone.

Devonshire · « **Reply #378 on:** October 19, 2012, 01:14:06 AM »

I've been lurking here for quite some time as well. This whole debacle seems to have entered into the realm of the ridiculous. I really can't fathom why all this controversy has stirred up. I know we're all subject to fallen human nature and whatnot, but shouldn't Traditional Catholics know better?

It's all so..strange.

I'm sorry that you've been subjected to this, PenitentWoman.

Clelia · « **Reply #379 on:** October 23, 2012, 08:02:28 AM »

Quote from: Matthew

Lots and lots of experience, SS.

Melancholics incline toward perfectionism and OCD (obsessive-compulsive disorder).

They are the pretty much the only ones to have to endure "scruples".

Excuse me, but pigeon-holing anyone into a single category of any kind is uneducated and narrow-minded thinking. No one fits neatly into one little box: crossover as well as unpredictable behaviors occur even we we least expect them.

That is not fair. People vacillate among several temperaments, too. If not, we'd all be just like little green aliens.

I didn't mean to derail the thread; I merely wanted to point this out.

Clelia · « **Reply #380 on:** October 23, 2012, 08:11:56 AM »

I cannot know for certain about Penitent Woman, or anyone else's agenda (if any applies) here; yet, a lack of charity and rash judgments run rampant here, as in most forums I've been on, hurting people instead of striving to be truly helpful to fellow members.

We all need to step back and examine ourselves on this one. All of us.

Penitent Woman, do what is best for you: stay or leave, but because it is best for you and not because someone is uncharitable. You can always hit the hide button, or ignore them without it. (I love that!).

However, I hope you will stay. Converse with those who sincerely try to be charitable (and they are seemingly the minority on all forums) and ignore the rest. No one can hurt you if you do not let them.

Many Blessings!

Capt McQuigg · « **Reply #381 on:** October 23, 2012, 10:09:12 AM »

I myself am a little baffled by the dislike of Penitent Woman. Some may see her as a "fake persona" but even if she was, why the strong dislike?

Rash judgement is something we all struggle with. Being aware of it is the first step in overcoming it.

wallflower · « **Reply #382 on:** October 23, 2012, 11:36:24 AM »

PW you don't have to come back to respond to this, it's just something to think about.

You have mentioned several times being very troubled. In the first "altercation" thread, C of S had picked up on that and advised you seek out a spiritual director rather than air it here, putting yourself at the mercy of strangers. This set you off yet here you are essentially admitting the same thing. I also said I didn't know whether you were either troubled or malicious. Enough time and posts and contradictions had gone by that we had a pretty clear image that something was off. You proceeded to insinuate we were just jealous of you, but perhaps you can now admit your judgment of our perceptions were unjust?

If some of the things said were untrue, everyone has had people say awful things about them up here. Everyone. If you can't handle it, I don't blame you, neither can I. But why blame Tiffany for distrusting you? You started out your relationships here with dishonesty, whole threads of it, completely unwarranted, people were being nice and encouraging to you, where did you expect it to go from there?

Several women had doubts about your story but let it slide in the interest of charity -- until you started throwing underhanded insults that those who knew you were stretching the limits of time, space and reality in the image you were triyng to project were simply lesser women. Then, of course your intentions will be questioned. Are you truly just troubled and in need of patience and friendship or are you malicious and quietly, cunningly stirring the pot? Only you know the answer to that.

Either way, take some personal responsibility here. No ifs ands or buts, no feeling sorry for yourself; just straight up, yes, I did it, I'm sorry, I've learned a tough lesson. Mix in a resolution not to do it again and you will find a weight lifted from your shoulders. Taking personal responsibility in all the areas of your life, not just in this one thing, is your best takeaway from this experience. Learn to tell the story of your past and even your present to yourself with direct statements of accountability, rather than a collection of this, that and the other thing made me do it. It puts your life back into your own control and puts your intellect and will back on top. It's truly the best therapy.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #383 on:** October 23, 2012, 11:52:54 AM »

Quote from: wallflower

PW you don't have to come back to respond to this, it's just something to think about.

You have mentioned several times being very troubled. In the first "altercation" thread, C of S had picked up on that and advised you seek out a spiritual director rather than air it here, putting yourself at the mercy of strangers. This set you off yet here you are essentially admitting the same thing. I also said I didn't know whether you were either troubled or malicious. Enough time and posts and contradictions had gone by that we had a pretty clear image that something was off. You proceeded to insinuate we were just jealous of you, but perhaps you can now admit your judgment of our perceptions were unjust?

If some of the things said were untrue, everyone has had people say awful things about them up here. Everyone. If you can't handle it, I don't blame you, neither can I. But why blame Tiffany for distrusting you? You started out your relationships here with dishonesty, whole threads of it, completely unwarranted, people were being nice and encouraging to you, where did you expect it to go from there?

Several women had doubts about your story but let it slide in the interest of charity -- until you started throwing underhanded insults that those who knew you were stretching the limits of time, space and reality in the image you were triyng to project were simply lesser women. Then, of course your intentions will be questioned. Are you truly just troubled and in need of patience and friendship or are you malicious and quietly, cunningly stirring the pot? Only you know the answer to that.

Either way, take some personal responsibility here. No ifs ands or buts, no feeling sorry for yourself; just straight up, yes, I did it, I'm sorry, I've learned a tough lesson. Mix in a resolution not to do it again and you will find a weight lifted from your shoulders. Taking personal responsibility in all the areas of your life, not just in this one thing, is your best takeaway from this experience. Learn to tell the story of your past and even your present to yourself with direct statements of accountability, rather than a collection of this, that and the other thing made me do it. It puts your life back into your own control and puts your intellect and will back on top. It's truly the best therapy.

You are definitely angling for a response. I wonder what you will tell her in PM?

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #384 on:** October 23, 2012, 11:56:05 AM »

Quote from: wallflower

PW you don't have to come back to respond to this, it's just something to think about.

You have mentioned several times being very troubled. In the first "altercation" thread, C of S had picked up on that and advised you seek out a spiritual director rather than air it here, putting yourself at the mercy of strangers. This set you off yet here you are essentially admitting the same thing. I also said I didn't know whether you were either troubled or malicious. Enough time and posts and contradictions had gone by that we had a pretty clear image that something was off. You proceeded to insinuate we were just jealous of you, but perhaps you can now admit your judgment of our perceptions were unjust?

If some of the things said were untrue, everyone has had people say awful things about them up here. Everyone. If you can't handle it, I don't blame you, neither can I. But why blame Tiffany for distrusting you? You started out your relationships here with dishonesty, whole threads of it, completely unwarranted, people were being nice and encouraging to you, where did you expect it to go from there?

Several women had doubts about your story but let it slide in the interest of charity -- until you started throwing underhanded insults that those who knew you were stretching the limits of time, space and reality in the image you were triyng to project were simply lesser women. Then, of course your intentions will be questioned. Are you truly just troubled and in need of patience and friendship or are you malicious and quietly, cunningly stirring the pot? Only you know the answer to that.

Either way, take some personal responsibility here. No ifs ands or buts, no feeling sorry for yourself; just straight up, yes, I did it, I'm sorry, I've learned a tough lesson. Mix in a resolution not to do it again and you will find a weight lifted from your shoulders. Taking personal responsibility in all the areas of your life, not just in this one thing, is your best takeaway from this experience. Learn to tell the story of your past and even your present to yourself with direct statements of accountability, rather than a collection of this, that and the other thing made me do it. It puts your life back into your own control and puts your intellect and will back on top. It's truly the best therapy.

*yawn*

Telesphorus · « **Reply #385 on:** October 23, 2012, 12:01:34 PM »

Quote from: SpiritusSanctus

*yawn*

Certain people seem to have an exceptional level of interest, don't they?

Capt McQuigg · « **Reply #386 on:** October 23, 2012, 12:06:32 PM »

It is time for this thread to end...

:smile:

Marcelino · « **Reply #387 on:** October 23, 2012, 12:28:53 PM »

Quote from: Capt McQuigg

I myself am a little baffled by the dislike of Penitent Woman. Some may see her as a "fake persona" but even if she was, why the strong dislike?

Rash judgement is something we all struggle with. Being aware of it is the first step in overcoming it.

There's two sides to every fight. We shouldn't be so quick to demonize one side. We should try to see it from the other person's perspective and not be so judgmental. Everyone wants to talk about that, but nobody seems to want to do it!

Geez, even when i defended Telesphosphorous from being ganged up on, it was obvious that S2rea and Wallflower were right about him! They just were too harsh/judgmental/uncharitable/whatever. But they weren't angry at the guy for nothing! He wasn't some poor little innocent victim boy, who'd never done anything wrong in his life. Why should they have to be so perfect, while he gets a pass? That doesn't seem fair. People should be more even handed, than they have been.

Besides, look at how much more experience S2rea and Wallflower have in big areas, like being married, parents and active members of local chapels, while Telesphosphorous has lots of experience on web forums and reading. Fine, he's smart, but he doesn't have the life experience they have. If anything, his experiences incline him towards bitterness, which I think is a lot of what they were picking up on. Not to mention, poor judgment. S2rea's a father. So, I'm not surprised he was angry at that guy! I know it's technically "legal," but so are lots of other things, that catholics turn their noses up at and it wasn't like he was sorry about it! On the other hand, they didn't need to launch jihad, after jihad against him!

Nowadays, everybody's got some kind of goofy idea rolling around in that squirrel cage, they call a brain. That should be humbling, but, it seems to me, ever since "everybody" decided they weren't subject to the authority of The Pope and/or The Society anymore, humility went out the window. Oh, but they aren't turning into protestants (no, no, no lmao!)

Everybody wants to take the word of a presumably, young, attractive and dying to get married girl, over the word of lots of older, married and not so charming anymore mature women, who are a little on the cranky side.

They say, revolutions are always "brewed," by our elites, among the: young, alientated, bitter, ostracized and disadvantaged. That seems to be correct.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #388 on:** October 23, 2012, 12:45:46 PM »

Marcelino, Matthew has asked the members of this forum to drop the "Tele issue". So let's not go into that discussion again.

And by the way, only one person could have thumbed down Matthew's warning to Marcelino, I would think...

Clelia · « **Reply #389 on:** October 23, 2012, 01:11:07 PM »

:dwarf:

AAAARRRGHHH!!!!

ENOUGH!!! BE CHARITABLE!!!!!