Author Topic: Thank you and goodbye (Read 53298 times)

PartyIsOver221 · « **Reply #315 on:** October 15, 2012, 07:45:11 PM »

It is confirmed with me that you are a man, Sede Catholic.

God bless,

PIO221

Tiffany · « **Reply #316 on:** October 15, 2012, 08:23:20 PM »

Quote from: Sede Catholic

Matthew told Thorn off because of her sadistic conduct towards PW, and said that Thorn owed PW an apology.

Thorn has defied Matthew.

Matthew told Tiffany off because of her sadistic conduct towards PW.

Tiffany has also defied Matthew.

Thorn and Tiffany even defy Matthew, who is the Forum owner.

Sede,
Matthew did not write to me, on this forum or in pm. I believe I wrote to him twice, once to share that my comment was not baseless (he wrote in his post to PW) and another time when Thorn was being criticized. It is not to defy a moderator to disagree with them. He did not put on his "moderator hat" and tell me not to post on the subject.

Cheryl · « **Reply #317 on:** October 15, 2012, 08:51:34 PM »

Quote from: Nadir

Quote from: Cheryl
Excuse me if I misread, but did you not suggest they stay home? If they're truly Catholic why would they stay home even if the service the attend is questionable?

Cheryl, I was going to ask if you are new to tradition and to this forrum, but I see you have been with us over 2 years. I am just wondering why you refer to Mass as "the service". This is protestant terminology. Just wondering out loud.

I thought that the word service was more polite then mess. Those who attend SSPX chapels or "Sede churches attend Mass. And since the whatever you choose to call it they have at NO churches was written by mostly Protestants, service seems to me at least, the correct terminology. As far as protestant terminology goes, I don't know much about it, I'm a cradle Catholic. Hope I was able to help you to better understand your wonderingl :wink:

Cheryl · « **Reply #318 on:** October 15, 2012, 09:12:57 PM »

Quote from: Iuvenalis

Quote from: Cheryl

Good Grief! A thumb down for agreeing with someone. Give me another for saying that this was a rather immature gesture.

Oh, you just can't win with the thumbs system. You just have to ignore it, it makes no sense why people thumb things down sometimes. Often it is just spite/a grudge.

I got thumbed down in the Bishop Williamson expulsion thread for pointing out the *contents* of his expulsion letter, not advocating anything, just for pointing out that the letter was clear on terms and thus, he is certainly 'out' of the Society. For that, thumbs down, like I'm Fellay or something.

Thanks Iuvenalis! I don't care about up or down thumbs, that's why I made the joke about Sigismund. The poor man could mention it is Tuesday on a Tuesday and still get a thumb down. Right silly if you ask me. But since no one asked I'll probably get a thumb down.

Nadir · « **Reply #319 on:** October 15, 2012, 09:21:34 PM »

Quote from: Cheryl

I thought that the word service was more polite then mess. Those who attend SSPX chapels or "Sede churches attend Mass. And since the whatever you choose to call it they have at NO churches was written by mostly Protestants, service seems to me at least, the correct terminology. As far as protestant terminology goes, I don't know much about it, I'm a cradle Catholic. Hope I was able to help you to better understand your wonderingl :wink:

That makes sense, thank you Cheryl.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #320 on:** October 16, 2012, 01:35:23 AM »

Quote from: Nadir

Quote from: Cheryl
Excuse me if I misread, but did you not suggest they stay home? If they're truly Catholic why would they stay home even if the service the[y] attend is questionable?

Cheryl, I was going to ask if you are new to tradition and to this forum, but I see you have been with us over 2 years. I am just wondering why you refer to Mass as "the service". This is protestant terminology. Just wondering out loud.

I've known Catholics who use that term, "service" or "the services" when talking
about Mass, and it really gets to me. I have to be careful when I tell them, because
it's too easy to let my zeal take over and shock them.

It happens a lot in reference to funerals, but we ought to say "Requiem Mass" not
"funeral." It's not a "burial service" but a Requiem Mass, or just Requiem. The
word is taken from the first word or two or three of the Introit (Requiem aeternam
dona eis Domine: et lux perpetua luceat eis.), which is typical with all Latin Rite
Masses, like Os justi, or Loquebar, or Salve sancta parens.

Catholics who watch a lot of TV or listen to radio a lot pick up the secular media's
vocabulary so then they'll say so-and-so's "funeral," even when it was a prominent
Catholic, or a pope or a bishop for whom the Requiem was offered.

It has become a lot more confusing now that the term "Requiem" applies specifically
to the Canonized Traditional Latin Mass, and what you're going to be talking about
in the "news" is a bishop's Novus Ordo "burial service," which is not a CTLM.

It's been a long time since a prominent, traditional bishop died. So the rareness of
the news is another thing to contend with. I think the last time was Archbishop
Marcel Lefebvre, and that was 1991! People now 21 years old were only ONE year
old at that time!!

Okay, I checked. The last one was Bishop Antonio de Castro Mayer, who died one
month to the DAY after +ABL. I never noticed that. April 25th after March 25th.
Those are, the Feast Day of St. Mark, Evangelist, and the Feast of the
Annunciation. They were both about the same age, too, +de Castro Mayer was
one year older.

................ speaking of people "departing" ................ :read-paper:

Marcelino · « **Reply #321 on:** October 16, 2012, 02:24:03 AM »

Quote from: Sede Catholic

Marcelino,
That is a very unjust accusation that you have made against PW.

PW has forgiven those who have harmed her.

It is the bullies who drove her off of CathInfo who keep gloating over this.

Tiffany has made more untrue accustations aginst PW on this thread just a few hours ago.

That is what I was responding to.

These sadistic women will not even let that poor girl leave, without bullying her on her own leaving thread.

To insult and lie about someone after they have left, on their own leaving thread, is dishonourable behaviour.

What has happened to PW between July and last week is a real injustice.

It is a stain on the honour of CathInfo.

Those who have done this owe that girl an apology.

So do you, Marcelino.

Act like a man, and withdraw that untrue accusation that you made.

I'M SICK OF HEARING ABOUT IT! ALL I SEE IS YOU WHINING ABOUT THIS IN THREAD AFTER THREAD, LONG AFTER IT'S OVER AND DONE WITH. WHEN WILL YOU STOP HARRASSING THESE GIRLS.

DON'T PREACH TO ME ABOUT CHIVARLY, I WAS ONE OF THE FIRST TO DEFEND P.W. AND SHE ISN'T THE FIRST PERSON HERE I'VE DEFENDED FROM BULLIES, BUT YOU'VE TURNED THIS INTO BULLYING YOURSELF! SO NOW I'M DEFENDING THE GIRLS YOU ARE BULLYING!

speck vs. log

Sede Catholic · « **Reply #322 on:** October 16, 2012, 09:55:35 AM »

Marcelino should get control of himself.
Hysteria is unbecoming in a man.
So is posting endless juvenile pictures of witches, cats, films, etc.

Marcelino has 5 ignores.
That is understandable.

I have only mentioned the bullying of PW on two threads.
And this is PW leaving thread, so what does he expect me to talk about – the weather?

I have bullied no one here.
The people who have bullied PW have chosen to torment her.
All I have done is criticize their cruel non-Catholic behaviour.

Marcelino has made an accusation against PW which is obviously untrue:
Marcelino has accused PW of not forgiving those who have harmed her.
PW has forgiven those who have harmed her.

Marcelino has made an obviously untrue and ridiculous accusation against PW.
PW has forgiven those who have harmed her.
And CathInfo members know that.

So Marcelino should act like a man and apologize to her.

That would be better than posting juvenile pictures of witches and films, and ranting in capital letters.

Sede Catholic · « **Reply #323 on:** October 16, 2012, 09:58:21 AM »

It is very wrong that Hospices are being promoted on this thread.
Hastening death against the wishes of the patient is very common in Hospices.
This is condemned by the Catholic Church.

Here are excerpts from an article:
"Catholic nurse recounts hospice horror, says doctor euthanized priest"
By Matt C. Abbott.

"The public still does not realize that Terri was taken from us to fulfill a hospice-euthanasia partnership, fulfilling their agenda in an 'in your face' demonstration of what they can do, are doing, and will do to others," asserts Panzer.

In recent days, Panzer received the following (edited) e-mail from registered nurse and Illinoisan Wendy Ludwig, who recounts the horror of witnessing the euthanizing of an elderly Catholic priest:
…
I'm so upset, horrified and angry about this. In my area, the hospice went on an 'advertising campaign,' writing articles in the local newspaper, handing out flyers to doctors' offices and trying to drum up support from local clergy by going around to each church asking to set up a meeting with them so they can 'explain the benefits of hospice.'

'It's truly terrible where I live. It's not uncommon to see a patient eating in a restaurant with his or her family one week and the following week be dead after hospice has come in. When my mother was ill, she made absolutely clear that she did not want hospice anywhere near her, yet the hospital …did many tactics to hasten her death and ended up doing as they pleased, coming up with some strange medical power-of-attorney that no one had seen before. It was truly awful. For the rest of my life it will affect me, and there is never a day that I do not think about it. I did everything I possibly could, but they still found ways to not treat infections, to deny her enough fluid, to do so many things, and it did not matter what I said or did — or what she said, for that matter.

'I'm currently seeking a new career, because as a pro-life Catholic, I cannot in good conscience work in hospitals anymore. Even the Catholic hospitals support hospice in one way or another. I can tell you honestly that I'm not aware of any hospice that is good. Everyone I know who has gone to a hospice in any state that I know of has been …

'It's been so overwhelming to me. What's so unbelievable is the way that hospice can convince people they are doing 'good' and 'mercy' for their loved ones. It appears to me that they …take the family at their most vulnerable time, convince them the only way the patient won't suffer is by using hospice, and lie to them about what is actually happening. Even when people feel like something isn't right, they do nothing, somehow believing what hospice has told them. With such an 'ad campaign' in the newspapers and elsewhere, I don't know how to begin to make people understand what hospice is doing. It's notable also that once a family member dies in hospice care, people do not want to hear the truth; it seems they defend hospice profoundly, …

'I witnessed a doctor euthanizing a Catholic priest who stated in no uncertain terms that he did not want hospice. The priest did not have cancer or any other terminal illness. He was 94, still saying Mass and very active. When the priest needed knee surgery for an injury to his knee, the doctor decided it was time to call in hospice. The priest adamantly and angrily refused. So the doctor took his medicine away and started to give him 'pain pills' even though the priest said he was not in pain.

'The priest was in a nursing home following his knee injury and was getting physical therapy. …he needed to go to the hospital…
'While in the hospital, the doctor refused him food and fluids…
…
A short time later the nurse came and got the family but told me to stay in the waiting room. I had a terrible feeling; I went to the nurses' station and the curtain was pulled in Father's room. I heard a priest saying prayers over him, the family in the room as well. I was told I could not go in. …

'I stood outside and heard the nurse telling the family that they were giving him another dose of medicine and taking off his oxygen. I was told to go back to the waiting room. I knew what was happening: The doctor had viciously called me to sit in the waiting room while he euthanized the priest. I left the hospital, and before I got home, I received a call that the priest had passed away.

The doctor still practices at the hospital.

'I have many other horror stories.'

http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/abbott/110401

http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/abbott/100429

Sede Catholic · « **Reply #324 on:** October 16, 2012, 09:59:05 AM »

Everyone should be very careful to avoid Hospices.
Hospices are places where they deliberately hasten the death of the patient.
Hospices give medication which rapidly hastens death.
Hospices dehydrate patients, which rapidly hastens death.

Do not be deceived.
If you really love your loved ones, keep them away from these evil Hospices.
Hospices are evil.

Even the “Catholic” ones cannot be trusted.

For help about euthanasia or hospices in the USA phone TOLL-FREE: 1.855.300.HOPE (4673)

Mailing Address:
Terri Schiavo Life & Hope Network
P.O. Box 521
Narberth, PA 19072
Phone: 1.855.300.HOPE (4673)
Email address: info@lifeandhope.com

http://www.terrisfight.org/need-help/

For help about euthanasia or hospices in the UK phone: 0800 1691719

The call is FREE.

http://www.spuc.org.uk/about/pfn/support

Here are some links explaining the truth:

http://rense.com/general63/euth.htm

http://www.spuc.org.uk/about/pfn/pfn

http://terrisfight.org/need-help/

National Right to Life Committee
512 10th St. NW
Washington, DC 20004

Robert Powell Center for Medical Ethics
phone. 202.626.8800 ext. 162
fax. 202.628.2784
email. medethics@nrlc.org

http://www.nrlc.org/MedEthics/Contact.html

Marcelino · « **Reply #325 on:** October 16, 2012, 06:43:46 PM »

Quote from: Sede Catholic

Marcelino should get control of himself.
Hysteria is unbecoming in a man.
So is posting endless juvenile pictures of witches, cats, films, etc.

Marcelino has 5 ignores.
That is understandable.

I have only mentioned the bullying of PW on two threads.
And this is PW leaving thread, so what does he expect me to talk about – the weather?

I have bullied no one here.
The people who have bullied PW have chosen to torment her.
All I have done is criticize their cruel non-Catholic behaviour.

Marcelino has made an accusation against PW which is obviously untrue:
Marcelino has accused PW of not forgiving those who have harmed her.
PW has forgiven those who have harmed her.

Marcelino has made an obviously untrue and ridiculous accusation against PW.
PW has forgiven those who have harmed her.
And CathInfo members know that.

So Marcelino should act like a man and apologize to her.

That would be better than posting juvenile pictures of witches and films, and ranting in capital letters.

Nobody was saying anything in that thread. It was you who had to come back after it had been dead and take a few more pot shots.

You never seem to let this stuff die.

PenitentWoman · « **Reply #326 on:** October 18, 2012, 04:19:36 PM »

Okay everyone! Marcelino (who I thought was my friend) has repeatedly informed me that I am morally obligated to come back and post (making a fool out of myself in the process!) to publicly admonish those who have stood up for me. Apparently their defense of me against those who say hurtful lies about my character, is "bullying" and I need to get off my "high horse" and offer public forgiveness.

So to my defenders: thanks, but no thanks (is that good enough Marc??). And to Tiffany and Thorn, even though you've never apologized, I forgive you for: a) accusing me of being a predator, and b) making bets with people about how long my employment will last.

I am a very troubled person Tiffany, but I am not a bad person. I am trying to heal myself and be a good Catholic mother. I would never try to hurt someone and I am not dangerous.

Oh and the reason I'm posting right now is because when Marcelino couldn't guilt trip me into posting in his defense, he decided to insinuate that I made a new screen name (though won't say what it is) and I'm now posting under it. This is false, and I want to make a record in defense against this implied accusation.

God Bless. Oh and I forgive you too Marcelino.

PenitentWoman · « **Reply #327 on:** October 18, 2012, 04:37:44 PM »

You know what. I'm am genuinely sorry for using your name Marc. I should have taken a breather and at least did this without mentioning your name. I just get so exhausted from trying to so hard to figure things out and having hurtful things said about me and to me. I am sorry though. I am terribly anxious.

Please pray for me. On Saturday my father is marrying his mistress. He is still married to my mother. It's horrible and I'm not coping well. I'm not looking to victimize myself or get attention. I just need prayers.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #328 on:** October 18, 2012, 05:08:09 PM »

Prayers for you, PW.

Don't let Marcelino or anyone else bully you into doing or saying something you don't want to. He's been PMing several people (myself included), refering to them as "sissies" and so forth. HE is the bully, not you or any of us.

Marcelino · « **Reply #329 on:** October 18, 2012, 06:56:35 PM »

Quote from: SpiritusSanctus

Prayers for you, Marcelino

Don't let Me or anyone else bully you into doing or saying something you don't want to. I've been PMing several people (you included), refering to them as "sissies" and so forth. I am the bully, not marcelino.

:applause: