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Texas passes pro-life bill - puts restrictions on abortion centers
« Reply #30 on: July 13, 2013, 05:48:13 PM »
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    Since abortion is willful premeditated murder, the punishment should be death.

    I would support that. But I know there is no way this new law would punish those who break it with death.
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    Texas passes pro-life bill - puts restrictions on abortion centers
    « Reply #31 on: July 13, 2013, 06:14:51 PM »
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  • Quote from: Nadir
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    Race/Ethnicity

    Among the 29 areas that reported cross-classified race/ethnicity data for 2009 (Table 12), non-Hispanic white women and non-Hispanic black women accounted for the largest percentages of abortions (37.7% and 35.4%, respectively), whereas Hispanic women and non-Hispanic women in the other races category accounted for smaller percentages (20.6% and 6.3%, respectively). Non-Hispanic white women had the lowest abortion rates (8.5 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15–44 years) and ratios (140 abortions per 1,000 live births), whereas non-Hispanic black women had the highest abortion rates (32.5 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15–44 years) and ratios (477 abortions per 1,000 live births). Among the 24 areas**** that reported by race/ethnicity every year during 2007–2009, abortion rates decreased for all racial/ethnic groups. The abortion rate decreased 7% for non-Hispanic white women (from 9.1 abortions per 1,000 women in 2007 to 8.5 in 2009) and 6% for Hispanic women (from 20.5 abortions per 1,000 women in 2007 to 19.3 in 2009) but only 1% for non-Hispanic black women (from 34.6 abortions per 1,000 women in 2007 to 34.2 in 2009). In contrast, abortion ratios decreased among non-Hispanic white women but not among women in any other racial/ethnic group. For non-Hispanic white women, the abortion ratio decreased 3% (from 143 abortions per 1,000 live births in 2007 to 138 in 2009), whereas the abortion ratio increased 4% for non-Hispanic black women (from 481 abortions per 1,000 live births in 2007 to 501 in 2009) and 2% for Hispanic women (from 192 abortions per 1,000 live births in 2007 to 195 in 2009). Data also are reported separately by race and by ethnicity for 2009 (Tables 13 and 15) and for 2000–2009 (Tables 14 and 16).


    Not only are blacks targeted in the U.S. but the U.S. government has been targeting blacks and non-whites worldwide. Investigate NSSM 200. http://www.hli.org/kissinger-report/193

    Thirteen countries are named in the report as particularly problematic with respect to U.S. security interests: India, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Indonesia, Thailand, the Philippines, Turkey, Nigeria, Egypt, Ethiopia, Mexico, Colombia, and Brazil. These countries are projected to create 47 percent of all world population growth.  

    The report advocates the promotion of education and contraception and other population control measures, stating for instance that "No country has reduced its population growth without resorting to abortion".

    It also raises the question of whether the U.S. should consider preferential allocation of surplus food supplies to states that are deemed constructive in use of population control measures.
    Of course you left out this little tidbit at the bottom of the chart;

    "* Data from 29 reporting areas; excludes 23 reporting areas (California, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Hawaii, Illinois, Iowa, Louisiana, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont, Washington, Wisconsin, and Wyoming) that did not report, did not report by race/ethnicity, or did not meet reporting standards.

    † Percentages for the individual component categories might not add to 100 because of rounding.

    § Calculated as the number of abortions reported by known race/ethnicity divided by the sum of abortions reported by known and unknown race/ethnicity.

    ¶ Because reporting is not mandatory, information could not be obtained for all abortions performed in the District of Columbia.

    ** Data from hospitals and licensed ambulatory care facilities only; because reporting is not mandatory for private physicians and women's centers, information could not be obtained for all abortions performed in New Jersey.

    †† Non-Hispanic categories include abortions for women whose ethnicity was reported as unknown; previous evaluation has shown that most reports without ethnicity are for non-Hispanic women.

    §§ Reporting form contains only one question for race and ethnicity; therefore, abortions reported for women of white, black, and other races (Asian and Native American) are not explicitly identified as non-Hispanic.

    ¶¶ Number of abortions obtained by women in a given race/ethnicity group per 1,000 women in that same group. For each state, abortions for women of unknown race/ethnicity were distributed according to the distribution of abortions among women of known race/ethnicity for that state.

    *** Number of abortions obtained by women in a given race/ethnicity group per 1,000 live births to women in that same race/ethnicity group. For each state,
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    Those statistics are seriously flawed. Not only that they only go back to the year 2000.

    I gaurntee you that millions more white babies were aborted since Roe v Wade in 1973 than any other race or ethnic minority, only now are the other races just playing catchup. Not that any of this is any good for anyone of any race.

    But the demons that are behind abortion are out to kill any babies no matter what color, there is no secret global plan to take out the darker races, the devil hates all humans, period.


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    Texas passes pro-life bill - puts restrictions on abortion centers
    « Reply #32 on: July 13, 2013, 06:29:10 PM »
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    That's a good thought Matthew and this damned Yankee is with you on this, but, unfortunately you would be crushed like the first time around, this evil arrogant gov't probably would use NATO forces to keep anyone from seceding from the new American Iron Curtain known as the "Union".


    No army of men can prevail against the army of God. Our Lord told St. Margaret Mary Alacoque that if King Louis XIV would put the Sacred Heart on his standard and arms he would defeat his enemies. Should we fair worse if we were to fight against the tyranny of this satanic society if we did as Our Lord requested and stood together in faith? I think not!

    But then, I am a member of the Church Militant, not the church pathetic.

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    Texas passes pro-life bill - puts restrictions on abortion centers
    « Reply #33 on: July 13, 2013, 09:40:35 PM »
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  • Quote from: Nadir
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    Race/Ethnicity

    Among the 29 areas that reported cross-classified race/ethnicity data for 2009 (Table 12), non-Hispanic white women and non-Hispanic black women accounted for the largest percentages of abortions (37.7% and 35.4%, respectively), whereas Hispanic women and non-Hispanic women in the other races category accounted for smaller percentages (20.6% and 6.3%, respectively). Non-Hispanic white women had the lowest abortion rates (8.5 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15–44 years) and ratios (140 abortions per 1,000 live births), whereas non-Hispanic black women had the highest abortion rates (32.5 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15–44 years) and ratios (477 abortions per 1,000 live births). Among the 24 areas**** that reported by race/ethnicity every year during 2007–2009, abortion rates decreased for all racial/ethnic groups. The abortion rate decreased 7% for non-Hispanic white women (from 9.1 abortions per 1,000 women in 2007 to 8.5 in 2009) and 6% for Hispanic women (from 20.5 abortions per 1,000 women in 2007 to 19.3 in 2009) but only 1% for non-Hispanic black women (from 34.6 abortions per 1,000 women in 2007 to 34.2 in 2009). In contrast, abortion ratios decreased among non-Hispanic white women but not among women in any other racial/ethnic group. For non-Hispanic white women, the abortion ratio decreased 3% (from 143 abortions per 1,000 live births in 2007 to 138 in 2009), whereas the abortion ratio increased 4% for non-Hispanic black women (from 481 abortions per 1,000 live births in 2007 to 501 in 2009) and 2% for Hispanic women (from 192 abortions per 1,000 live births in 2007 to 195 in 2009). Data also are reported separately by race and by ethnicity for 2009 (Tables 13 and 15) and for 2000–2009 (Tables 14 and 16).


    Not only are blacks targeted in the U.S. but the U.S. government has been targeting blacks and non-whites worldwide. Investigate NSSM 200. http://www.hli.org/kissinger-report/193

    Thirteen countries are named in the report as particularly problematic with respect to U.S. security interests: India, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Indonesia, Thailand, the Philippines, Turkey, Nigeria, Egypt, Ethiopia, Mexico, Colombia, and Brazil. These countries are projected to create 47 percent of all world population growth.  

    The report advocates the promotion of education and contraception and other population control measures, stating for instance that "No country has reduced its population growth without resorting to abortion".

    It also raises the question of whether the U.S. should consider preferential allocation of surplus food supplies to states that are deemed constructive in use of population control measures.
     The US should stop all food shipments & USAID. We have  many in need herel

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    Texas passes pro-life bill - puts restrictions on abortion centers
    « Reply #34 on: July 13, 2013, 10:09:04 PM »
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    The US should stop all food shipments & USAID. We have  many in need herel


    I don't disagree, but basically this is not the issue. It is the attack on those who are not "constructive in use of population control measures". In other words: stop "breeding" or you'll pay!
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    Texas passes pro-life bill - puts restrictions on abortion centers
    « Reply #35 on: July 13, 2013, 10:18:36 PM »
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    There is no doubt that "birth control" and use of contraception is widespread in Ireland. There is no outrage about it.


    Outside of religious enclaves that see abortion as murder, is there any outrage anywhere?
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    Texas passes pro-life bill - puts restrictions on abortion centers
    « Reply #36 on: July 13, 2013, 10:21:05 PM »
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    The measure bans abortions past 20 weeks of gestation, mandates abortion clinics become ambulatory surgical centers, tightens usage guidelines for the drug RU486 and requires doctors who perform abortions to have admitting privileges at a hospital within 30 miles of the clinic at which they're providing such services.

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    The Republican legislators who support it say the bill isn't about banning abortions, but rather about protecting women's health.
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    There is a clear choice in this vote tonight," she said. "Do we keep the lax standards, do we forgo safeguards, do we ignore the evidence that at 20 weeks we have a child who can feel? Or do we choose life?"


    Yes, it seems more like away of saving women, than bringing babies to term.
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.

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    Texas passes pro-life bill - puts restrictions on abortion centers
    « Reply #37 on: July 14, 2013, 12:54:32 AM »
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    I think someone will sue and the supreme court will call this new law unconstitutional.


    Time for Texas to secede from the union!

    I'd be all for it.

    I wouldn't mind having to get a passport to visit the Yanks up north...

    You know that's popular sentiment here -- a local brewery "Lone Star Beer" has a whole line of advertisements which play off this sentiment:

    "Lone Star -- The National Beer of Texas"
    "Lone Star: Every other beer is an import."

    basically repeating the theme that Texas is its own country.

    And we should be!!! YEEEEE-HAW!

     :cowboy:


    If Texas was able to secede, I would be living there the same day it happened.  I have never visited the great state of Texas, but I hope to someday.
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    Texas passes pro-life bill - puts restrictions on abortion centers
    « Reply #38 on: July 14, 2013, 01:01:25 AM »
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    But then, I am a member of the Church Militant, not the church pathetic.


    That's not meant to be a accusation of you, Alaric. It's just how I feel about our current situation in general.

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    « Reply #39 on: July 14, 2013, 03:33:23 AM »
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  • I don't think I agree with making laws on what type of facility murder should take place in or where the physician needs to have privileges at. I just read a yahoo news article, a pro-life rep is saying how they want it safer for women.

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    « Reply #40 on: July 14, 2013, 03:36:18 AM »
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    The US should stop all food shipments & USAID. We have  many in need herel


    I don't disagree, but basically this is not the issue. It is the attack on those who are not "constructive in use of population control measures". In other words: stop "breeding" or you'll pay!
     GWB kept the Mexico City policy.


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    « Reply #41 on: July 14, 2013, 03:40:08 AM »
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    The measure bans abortions past 20 weeks of gestation, mandates abortion clinics become ambulatory surgical centers, tightens usage guidelines for the drug RU486 and requires doctors who perform abortions to have admitting privileges at a hospital within 30 miles of the clinic at which they're providing such services.

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    The Republican legislators who support it say the bill isn't about banning abortions, but rather about protecting women's health.
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    There is a clear choice in this vote tonight," she said. "Do we keep the lax standards, do we forgo safeguards, do we ignore the evidence that at 20 weeks we have a child who can feel? Or do we choose life?"


    Yes, it seems more like away of saving women, than bringing babies to term.


    I missed this before I posted. Yes they are not making a stance against murder but using red tape  to shut down the clinics.

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    « Reply #42 on: July 14, 2013, 05:28:10 AM »
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    But then, I am a member of the Church Militant, not the church pathetic.


    That's not meant to be a accusation of you, Alaric. It's just how I feel about our current situation in general.
    We are in agreement, but sadly the church pathetic rules the day in these times. Hopefully the modernist church will breed itself out of existence soon enough, if that's even possible.


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    « Reply #43 on: July 14, 2013, 05:31:19 AM »
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    There is no doubt that "birth control" and use of contraception is widespread in Ireland. There is no outrage about it.


    Outside of religious enclaves that see abortion as murder, is there any outrage anywhere?
    Ireland, one of the last bastions of Catholic culture in the West,, seems to be on board with the anti-Christ world system these days, very dissappointing.

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    « Reply #44 on: July 14, 2013, 05:34:34 AM »
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    I don't think I agree with making laws on what type of facility murder should take place in or where the physician needs to have privileges at. I just read a yahoo news article, a pro-life rep is saying how they want it safer for women.[/quote] That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.


    What is this rep saying?

    "Hi, I'm pro-life, but I want to make it easier for women to kill their offspring"


    Talk about chutzpah.