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Offline John Grace

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Terry Gensemer
« on: July 03, 2012, 04:10:34 PM »
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  • Terry Gensemer is a great friend of the pro-life organisation Youth Defence. He regards himself as a Father  in the Charismatic Episcopal Church in America.

    Each year there is a pro-life rally in Ireland. This Terry Gensemer will be among the speakers.

    http://www.cechome.com/?p=1732
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    The House of Bishops discussed and passed the following statement with respect to Israel and the Jєωιѕн people :
    We, the Bishops of the CEC-NA call upon the people of God to pray for the peace of Jerusalem (Psalm 122:6)
    We affirm God’s special love for Israel and the Jєωιѕн people as his chosen people.
    We denounce the evil of anti-semitism.
    We affirm the right of Israel to exist as a sovereign people and nation.
    We affirm that the Federal Government of the USA should stand firmly for Israel and against all attempts to destroy them as a sovereign nation.


    Terry Gensemer was absent from this meeting so don't know his position regarding the Jєωs and Israel.

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    Fr Terry Gensemer, director of CEC for Life, was unable to attend the HOB due to an injury; prayers were offered for his recovery


    The concern is many SSPX attendee's will attend this pro-life rally. Some stay away as it is very ecuмenical in Belfast.

    What concerns me with this Krahgate and everything is unless we get to the root and are a real Catholic Counter Power, we will get nowhere.

    I realise Terry is a good friend of Youth Defence but I never understand the need to look to these evangelical Yanks for inspiration.


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    Terry Gensemer
    « Reply #1 on: July 03, 2012, 04:15:03 PM »
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  • Very insulting to the Germany people and a poorly researched article.

    http://www.youthdefence.ie/latest-news/blog-the-pope-is-right-abortion-threatens-the-future-of-humanity/
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    So what's the end result going to be? To justify slavery, people argued that black people weren't fully human, that they didn't deserve the same rights as everyone else. The same has been said of Jєωιѕн people as well. Today, many see those views as prehistoric - and I still find it hard to believe that these views are from recent history. Now, the unborn child is facing the worst kind of discrimination.

    Over 50 million children in the womb are being slaughtered every year on the belief that they're not fully human and don't deserve the same rights as those who have been born. I wonder if 100 years from now, people will think of us the same for allowing abortion to happen than we think of those who watched idly as the smoke of the gas chambers billowed out from the cσncєnтrαтισn cαмρs around Germany. I must admit that I fear for the future of humanity if abortion doesn't end. So let's make it end - now.


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    Terry Gensemer
    « Reply #2 on: July 04, 2012, 08:39:18 AM »
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  • Even the otherwise excellent Integrity and Action fall for the propaganda here also. It was the English who started Eugenics and the first thing Hitler wished to eliminate was unemployment. In 1933 , six million German men, a third of the work force were unemployed. Hitler was a Nationalist. I suppose an attempt to vilify him is expected from the land of 'Bomber' hαɾɾιs.Who bombed Dresden, Integrity and Action?

    Hitler encouraged large families.

    http://integrityandaction.blogspot.ie/2011/02/marie-stopes-liberator-of-women-or_27.html
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    Stopes was a decided racist, and αnтι-ѕємιтє. She was also an ardent supporter and, as one might now say, fan of Adolf Hitler

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    « Reply #3 on: July 04, 2012, 12:56:05 PM »
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    Even the otherwise excellent Integrity and Action fall for the propaganda here also. It was the English who started Eugenics and the first thing Hitler wished to eliminate was unemployment. In 1933 , six million German men, a third of the work force were unemployed. Hitler was a Nationalist. I suppose an attempt to vilify him is expected from the land of 'Bomber' hαɾɾιs.Who bombed Dresden, Integrity and Action?

    Hitler encouraged large families.

    http://integrityandaction.blogspot.ie/2011/02/marie-stopes-liberator-of-women-or_27.html
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    Stopes was a decided racist, and αnтι-ѕємιтє. She was also an ardent supporter and, as one might now say, fan of Adolf Hitler



    Did he eschew eugenics? No.

    But he was a Nationalist, who promoted large families (as long as they were pure Aryan) so that's ok.

    Nationalism covers a multitude of sins?

    He was not pro-life. And being a Nationalist doesn't make him so.

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    « Reply #4 on: July 04, 2012, 01:10:54 PM »
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    Did he eschew eugenics? No.

    But he was a Nationalist, who promoted large families (as long as they were pure Aryan) so that's ok.

    Nationalism covers a multitude of sins?

    He was not pro-life. And being a Nationalist doesn't make him so.


    You know I'm going to ask you this again: Would you give your job to a mentally disabled person?

    Even the retarded know right from wrong.

    And what is this pure Aryan jazz? Aryan to Hitler simply meant Germanic so if you mean did Hitler want German women to only marry German men and not Gypsies, blacks, or Jєωs you are correct.


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    « Reply #5 on: July 04, 2012, 01:13:42 PM »
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    Even the otherwise excellent Integrity and Action fall for the propaganda here also. It was the English who started Eugenics and the first thing Hitler wished to eliminate was unemployment. In 1933 , six million German men, a third of the work force were unemployed. Hitler was a Nationalist. I suppose an attempt to vilify him is expected from the land of 'Bomber' hαɾɾιs.Who bombed Dresden, Integrity and Action?

    Hitler encouraged large families.

    http://integrityandaction.blogspot.ie/2011/02/marie-stopes-liberator-of-women-or_27.html
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    Stopes was a decided racist, and αnтι-ѕємιтє. She was also an ardent supporter and, as one might now say, fan of Adolf Hitler


    Well Al Qaeda and many other Third World terrorists learned their terror tactics from the IRA. :wink:

    But yes Hitler's Germany had a far better economy than Britain and the U.S. during 1933-1938.

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    « Reply #6 on: July 04, 2012, 01:19:48 PM »
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  • People often forget the sewer Weimar Germany was with filth and ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity.

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    « Reply #7 on: July 04, 2012, 02:10:56 PM »
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    People often forget the sewer Weimar Germany was with filth and ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity.


    Sure, and the nαzιs replaced it with something SO much better...
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir


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    « Reply #8 on: July 04, 2012, 02:44:49 PM »
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    You know I'm going to ask you this again: Would you give your job to a mentally disabled person?

    What has that got to do with this?

    Besides, would I give my job to anyone else?

    If I had a job, that is.

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    Even the retarded know right from wrong.

    Yes, and Hitler's regime was very respectful of the retarded, wasn't it? Retarded people knew they were safe and cared for there...

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    And what is this pure Aryan jazz? Aryan to Hitler simply meant Germanic so if you mean did Hitler want German women to only marry German men and not Gypsies, blacks, or Jєωs you are correct.

    And his regime countenanced the killing of unborn children who weren't German enough.

    Sorry, but I don't think that that is acceptable.

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    Terry Gensemer
    « Reply #9 on: July 04, 2012, 02:52:58 PM »
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    Even the otherwise excellent Integrity and Action fall for the propaganda here also. It was the English who started Eugenics and the first thing Hitler wished to eliminate was unemployment. In 1933 , six million German men, a third of the work force were unemployed. Hitler was a Nationalist. I suppose an attempt to vilify him is expected from the land of 'Bomber' hαɾɾιs.Who bombed Dresden, Integrity and Action?

    Hitler encouraged large families.

    http://integrityandaction.blogspot.ie/2011/02/marie-stopes-liberator-of-women-or_27.html
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    Stopes was a decided racist, and αnтι-ѕємιтє. She was also an ardent supporter and, as one might now say, fan of Adolf Hitler


    Well Al Qaeda and many other Third World terrorists learned their terror tactics from the IRA. :wink:

    But yes Hitler's Germany had a far better economy than Britain and the U.S. during 1933-1938.


    Terror tactics?
    IRA fought for their Freedom and for their land..and killed 9xs the number of Soldiers as the British Occupiers.

    Irish Catholic men were rounded up, detained with NO Magna Carta or Habeus, Interrogated, Imprisoned and deprivedof basic human rights.

    Catholics in Ireland  couldnt Vote, Own land, Lease Land, Inherit Land, Go to Mass or receive Sacraments, Ber Arms, Practice Law, Hold Public Office  or do anything other than be a slave for her Royal Majesty and Cromwell, who was backed by Jєωry (he considered making Hebrew the Natl Language of England)

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    « Reply #10 on: July 04, 2012, 02:56:56 PM »
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  • Jєωs Specifically are and were behind Abortion, both in America and elsewhere.

    Dr Bernard Nathanson's book CONFESSIONS OF AN X ABORTIONIST states HOW Jєωs duped Protestants into siding against the Pro Life Catholic Church to pass Roe V Wade.


    These  Protest-ant hypocrites approve of Apartheid, Genodide and Ethnic cleansing andKilling of Palestinian children and people on behalf of Israel,  but take offense to abortion killing Irish children?

    Ecuмenical fools led by the Jєω.


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    « Reply #11 on: July 04, 2012, 03:02:51 PM »
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    Did he eschew eugenics? No.

    But he was a Nationalist, who promoted large families (as long as they were pure Aryan) so that's ok.

    Nationalism covers a multitude of sins?

    He was not pro-life. And being a Nationalist doesn't make him so.


    The real Eugenics was decades ahead of Germany IN America, England and Russia and was being practiced. The  Mentally ill  (feeble)were sterilized.  Its on the record.
    Interracial breeding was banned and laws n the books prohibited marriage.

    History lesson.
    Germany was Starving post WW1.  Millions of people, thousands of women and children were reduced to prostitution.
    Hitlers decision was practical...Those that are strong will be afforded food.
    Those too feeble and a burden on the state cannot.  It was a matter of life and death.  
    Read what the Treaty Versaille DID to Germany. Money was worthless. Bread literally cost millions of marcs.



    So What is wrong with Pure, White Families?
    Do you hate White people?  White culture? White Civilization and achivements like Western Civilization?
    Jєωs have strict Racial Laws in Israel-Jєω Only Marriage laws.  Why not Whites? Are you a converted Jєω?
    Even religion is transitory.  We can leave our Faith and convert.
    Race is Not. It is forever.

    Hitler passed strict abortion laws in Germany for German women. He was Pro Life
    Families set records in the years he was in power,
    Germany the envy of the world with what they accomplished and their porductivity, and it was not military related either.


    You villify Hitler like a trained, Public school Parrot.  
    Some say He should probably be Sainted By the Church

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    « Reply #12 on: July 04, 2012, 03:22:26 PM »
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  • Cardinal Pacelli before his election to the Papacy as Pius XII had this most penetrating insight about the nαzιs who were " in reality only miserable plagiarists who dress up old errors with new tinsel. It does not make any difference whether they flock to the banners of social revolution, whether they are guided by a false concept of the world and of life, or whether they are possessed by the superstition of a race and blood cult." He also said National Socialism was profoundly anti-Christian, echoing in this matter the sentiments of his predecessor.
    "Never will anyone who says his Rosary every day become a formal heretic ... This is a statement I would sign in my blood." St. Montfort, Secret of the Rosary. I support the FSSP, the SSPX and other priests who work for the restoration of doctrinal orthodoxy and liturgical orthopraxis in the Church. I accept Vatican II if interpreted in the light of Tradition and canonisations as an infallible declaration that a person is in Heaven. Sedevacantism is schismatic and Ecclesiavacantism is heretical.

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    « Reply #13 on: July 04, 2012, 03:34:48 PM »
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    Hitlers decision was practical...Those that are strong will be afforded food.
    Those too feeble and a burden on the state cannot.  It was a matter of life and death.  

    Hardly a Christian view. Lack of trust in Divine Providence, for one thing. The end does not justify evil means. EVER.

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    So What is wrong with Pure, White Families?
    Do you hate White people?  White culture? White Civilization and achivements like Western Civilization?  

    For crying out loud. What an incredible straw man.

    Why do you assume that, just because I disagree with killing people who are not racially pure, then I must hate pure white people?!

    Why do you hate mixed race people?

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    Jєωs have strict Racial Laws in Israel-Jєω Only Marriage laws.  Why not Whites? Are you a converted Jєω?

    Who cares what the Jєωs believe? I am not and never have been a Jєω. I am a Catholic. Just because Jєωs have ridiculous race rules doesn't mean I have to.

    Are you a Jєω, since you seem to think race laws matter?

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    Even religion is transitory.  We can leave our Faith and convert.
    Race is Not. It is forever.

    So what? God welcomes people of mixed and pure blood.

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    Hitler passed strict abortion laws in Germany for German women. He was Pro Life

    If he approved of abortion in any circuмstances, he was not pro-life.

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    Families set records in the years he was in power,
    Germany the envy of the world with what they accomplished and their porductivity, and it was not military related either.

    What does it profit a nation if it gains the envy of the world, but loses its soul, by killing weak and "impure" people?

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    « Reply #14 on: July 04, 2012, 04:50:35 PM »
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    Jєωs Specifically are and were behind Abortion, both in America and elsewhere.

    Dr Bernard Nathanson's book CONFESSIONS OF AN X ABORTIONIST states HOW Jєωs duped Protestants into siding against the Pro Life Catholic Church to pass Roe V Wade.


    These  Protest-ant hypocrites approve of Apartheid, Genodide and Ethnic cleansing andKilling of Palestinian children and people on behalf of Israel,  but take offense to abortion killing Irish children?

    Ecuмenical fools led by the Jєω.


    It would be wrong to claim all Jєωs are abortionists but the role of the Jєωs in abortion is well docuмented.Organisations like Youth Defence need to be aware of this. Since they killed Christ, they have never stopped killing to be honest.