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Offline Telesphorus

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« Reply #75 on: August 10, 2013, 09:59:24 AM »
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  • It's silly to confuse cathinfo with the resistance.


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    « Reply #76 on: August 10, 2013, 02:11:06 PM »
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  • Quote from: Francisco
    A poster "Denise" on IA has so far posted twice on the BpWilliamson/Fr Meramo issue:

    No offense intended (although I'm sure it will be taken) but the resistance is disintegrating into a Lord of the Flies operation.


    <cut>.....As for the Lord of the Flies comment, certain elements, such as another forum, having successfully driven out most of their membership are now cannibalizing each other. I hope no non Catholic or non trad sees that behavior and thinks it Catholic. It is diabolical mob.gif.....


    SSS and chrstnoel1 do not constitute "most of the membership".

    I really don't mind honest criticism, even if it stings. But huge, baseless, wild lies? Of course I have a problem with that, being a huge fan of the Truth.

    Most of the membership is "cannibalizing" each other? We're eating each other's flesh now? Give me a break.

    Oh, I know they don't mean it literally. They are trying to say there's strife, disagreement, and arguments going on. Let's see, that's been the case since, oh, about 2007. Welcome to the concept of a Traditional Catholic message board!
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    « Reply #77 on: August 10, 2013, 02:19:37 PM »
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  • Pax Romanum has been banned.

    1. Taking the moderator to task publicly.
    2. Signing up for multiple accounts (He signed up for a dozen or more accounts in the past; he was friends with a past (banned) member who kept saying that Hitler was a saint.)
    3. Being a racist (and I choose that term carefully, since I am a race realist myself)

    This forum is not going to turn into Stormfront. Their kind is not welcome here. It's guys like him that give CathInfo a reputation for being a hive of racists.

    Though that reputation is not DESERVED, it is somewhat UNDERSTANDABLE when guys like Pax Romanum are allowed here.

    PR, go back to Stormfront where you belong.

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    « Reply #78 on: August 10, 2013, 05:14:00 PM »
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  • This thread shocks me.  I wish it would be removed immediately.

    Offline Sigismund

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    « Reply #79 on: August 10, 2013, 07:24:40 PM »
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  • Quote from: Seraphia
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    I just hope none of Cathinfo's good posters leave here due to these arguments.


    Maybe, maybe not but it will make everyone think twice now before we thumb down the moderators of the forum -- that they are keeping track somehow.

    Apparently it means something to them if they are willing to make a public topic about it.



    Oh for heaven's sake.

    I have down thumbed Matthew many times, and I still post here unmolested.  I don't recall ever down thumbing Mater, but as Matthew himself has pointed ourt she is a much nicer person than he is.   :wink:
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    « Reply #80 on: August 10, 2013, 08:43:12 PM »
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  • .

    When I came to this page, 17, there were no posts on it.

    So I went back to the thread, on p. 15 and 16, and then returning
    again to page 17, again I found no posts on it.  Very weird.  

    I've never seen this before on CI.  


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    « Reply #81 on: August 10, 2013, 09:01:31 PM »
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  • Quote from: jozeftiso1947
    Quote from: ggreg

    I certainly DO have a problem with the idea that 90%+ of people who reach the age of reason are damned to Hell for all eternity.  God designed the system.  He new what humans were before the fall and understood what their nature would be like after the fall.  Any God who creates intelligent beings without asking them first and then damns most of them to hell is to my way of thinking an evil monster.[/i]





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    And ggreg, you contradict yourself when you say you want to read the gospels with a "pair of fresh eyes and with an honest intention," yet you also have a problem with a "Monster" God that damns the majority of humanity. If you would have truly read the gospels honestly, you would see how Christ repeatedly warns of hell, and mentions it much more than heaven.

    Matthew 7:13-14
    "For small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and few who are that find it."

    It is actually the words of Christ that you have a problem with.





    It's really a more fundamental flaw, IMHO.  It seems ggreg
    would have God obey ggreg's rules on how to run the universe,
    because ggreg thinks that God should ask everyone's opinion
    before He creates them.

    But ggreg's universe is impossible.  How could God ask
    permission of anyone before the person exists?  Based on one
    tiny error in philosophy, ggreg goes forth to build his false
    mirage of fantasy, much like all the modern philosophers of the
    past 500 years, that is, ever since the protestant deformation.

     Therefore, ggreg is basically protestant.  


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    « Reply #82 on: August 11, 2013, 01:20:22 AM »
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  • How about removing altogether the like/dislike facility?


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    « Reply #83 on: August 11, 2013, 07:00:26 PM »
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  • Quote from: Matthew
    Pax Romanum has been banned.

    1. Taking the moderator to task publicly.
    2. Signing up for multiple accounts (He signed up for a dozen or more accounts in the past; he is the one who kept saying that Hitler was a saint.)
    3. Being a racist (and I choose that term carefully, since I am a race realist myself)

    This forum is not going to turn into Stormfront. Their kind is not welcome here. It's guys like him that give CathInfo a reputation for being a hive of racists.

    Though that reputation is not DESERVED, it is somewhat UNDERSTANDABLE when guys like Pax Romanum are allowed here.

    PR, go back to Stormfront where you belong.

    This is unfortunate, I actually enjoyed some of his posts, especially his responses against тαℓмυdic Jewry, Israel and Zionism. The whole "racism" thing I don't know about, because this "racism" thing is completely out of hand everywhere on the Internet like it is in the real world.  To me, it's grossly overplayed and it seems to mean whatever that particular person wants it to mean in order to gain the upper hand in an discussion or debate.

    As far as your list for banning PR;

    1. I never seen that personally, it's probably true, but I have seen others that were not banned in the process, not saying it didn't happen , in what context or the level he was going public.

    2. When you say "multiple" accounts,  does that mean all at the same time? I don't know much about that stuff, I never had more than one at any forum and more than a dozen I couldn't even comprehend personally, who'd have the time? And Hitler a "saint"? Wow, that's quite a reach, you might be able to pull off as some kind of secular martyr against the International banksters , moneylenders, Marxists and Jewry, but a a "catholic" saint I don't think so. But hey, they want to make JPII a "saint" these days so go figure.

    3.I am also a "race realist", I have dealt with the reality of racial issues all my life and some things are undeniable, but if merely pointing this out makes one a "racist" then so be it. I don't really go parading about racial superiority, but you might call me more of an ethno-centrist, I do defend  my ethnicity and European ancestry, especially these days when everyone damn well knows we're under attack and that includes our Catholicsm as well. I don't see any inherent sin in all that, actually my ancestors went out of their way in preserving it, that is where our nations, lineage, language and heritage all comes from as well as an insulator and protector of the Church herself. We all see how less a culture becomes ethno-centered the less moral and "catholic" in becomes as well.

    I don't see this as a "racist" forum at all, maybe some ethno-centrism, tribalism and evena fervor for Nationalism but all within the confines of Catholic teachings, traditions and doctrines. What I do see on this forum, is the allowance of dialogue about such issue as race, ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity and Jєωιѕн themes that are basically verboten on just about every other "catholic" forum out there.

    Anyway, my .02.


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    « Reply #84 on: August 11, 2013, 07:07:58 PM »
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    accounts in the past; he is the one who kept saying that Hitler was a saint.)


    Matthew retracted that statement.  





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    « Reply #85 on: August 11, 2013, 07:31:38 PM »
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    accounts in the past; he is the one who kept saying that Hitler was a saint.)


    Matthew retracted that statement.  




    Didn't catch that.

    I vaguely remember some obscure poster coming on and peddleing that notion.

    The first thing I thought of was that this guy's got to be some kind of Jew troll or ADL clown, he certainly wasn't some kind of neo-net "nαzι". Hitler being a Catholic saint is about as far away from their set beliefs that you can get.

    "St. Adolf" says the National Socialist.........yea right. :rolleyes:


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    « Reply #86 on: August 12, 2013, 08:02:42 AM »
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  • One thing all forums with a healthy amount of activity have in common is that not everyone is on the same page. Most people like to argue. Most of the activity comprise arguments, sometimes civil and sometimes not so civil. That necessitates allowing a certain mix of people. I've always thought Matthew does a great job at keeping this balance. I've heard Matthew accused of purely wanting a popular forum with lots of traffic. As if he has no standards and is some kind of attention-hungry sociopath. That's not accurate.

    I've always perceived that he doesn't mind people with heterodox views posting here, just so long as they don't "tip the balance." I think that's a sensible approach.

    I've never followed the antagonism between Tele and Matthew very closely. Their confrontations seem to happen on threads I don't read, usually involving feminism. But there is something troubling going on, when Matthew outs Tele in the "anonymous" forum and starts this thread.

    In the past I thought their antagonism towards each other was merely a personality clash rather than a clash over fundamentals. But I may be wrong.

    By their fruits ye shall know them. This forum has always produced mostly good fruit (and has been my favorite forum for years), so I hope it stays that way.

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    « Reply #87 on: August 12, 2013, 08:03:53 AM »
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    accounts in the past; he is the one who kept saying that Hitler was a saint.)


    Matthew retracted that statement.  




    Didn't catch that.

    I vaguely remember some obscure poster coming on and peddleing that notion.

    The first thing I thought of was that this guy's got to be some kind of Jew troll or ADL clown, he certainly wasn't some kind of neo-net "nαzι". Hitler being a Catholic saint is about as far away from their set beliefs that you can get.

    "St. Adolf" says the National Socialist.........yea right. :rolleyes:


    Especially since he committed ѕυιcιdє. And I've heard from David Irving that he stopped attending Church regularly around 1920.

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    « Reply #88 on: August 12, 2013, 08:27:37 AM »
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    accounts in the past; he is the one who kept saying that Hitler was a saint.)


    Matthew retracted that statement.  




    Didn't catch that.

    I vaguely remember some obscure poster coming on and peddleing that notion.

    The first thing I thought of was that this guy's got to be some kind of Jew troll or ADL clown, he certainly wasn't some kind of neo-net "nαzι". Hitler being a Catholic saint is about as far away from their set beliefs that you can get.

    "St. Adolf" says the National Socialist.........yea right. :rolleyes:


    Especially since he committed ѕυιcιdє. And I've heard from David Irving that he stopped attending Church regularly around 1920.
    I don't think Hitler was an atheist in the classic sense, but he was disturbed in his perception by how much of the clergy and ecclesia was working in tandem against Germany's best intetests, particulary when it came to the Jєωιѕн question. At any rate, after becoming dissalussioned and even apthetic to the Church, he formed his own conception of the Divine and "providence" in his life. I really believe that he still thought he was doing "God's will" and the right thing for Germany and Europe in general, especially in his war against Jewry and the commuists, a sort of two-headed beast attached to the same body that was infecting the continent. Appearntly history has proven him correct. but his methods and even his mental capability late in the war clouded his judgement and decision making.

    But back to his alleged "sainthood" by another poster, a highly unlikely proposition by either  any "catholics" or National Socialists.

    That kind of allegation comes from a source looking to slander both Catholics and "nαzιs".

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    « Reply #89 on: August 12, 2013, 08:45:39 AM »
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  • Hitler was a Deist ( believes there is a God ) and described himself as a Catholic, but did not live according to Catholic morals, and in his "table talks" he ridicules Catholic morality ( about things like modesty in dress etc.)
    I don't think he was a saint. Whether he was right was not what people were asking. Many NS are traditional in beliefs, and its not uncommon for them to convert to the church, and take with them the truth about history and political situations that they have learned from NS circles. Unlike the Marxists, there is no automatic badness in them, rather a desire for the truth and an admission that truth is extreme, and a willingness to follow the truth regardless of personal consequences or controversy.
    I think it would not be a waste of time to send a crusade to an NS forum to win converts, although the enemies of the church always looking to call trads nαzιs and so on to discredit them would have a problem with that.
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