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Offline Matthew

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Telesphorus and Pax Romanum have a problem
« on: August 09, 2013, 12:00:36 PM »
I'm not familiar with the concept -- you join a forum, spend practically ALL DAY there, but you CAN'T STAND the owners?

Here is the breakdown of downvotes for the forum owner and his wife:

Matthew: PaxRomanum18 (25.71%, or 27 downvotes)  Telesphorus (23.81%, or 25 downvotes). From there, it goes to 12.3%, then 4.7%, then it trails off.

MaterDominici: Telesphorus (40.74%, or 11 downvotes)  PaxRomanum18 (18.52%, or 5 downvotes). From there, it drops to 7.4%, and the list ends very quickly soon thereafter.

Let it be noted that my wife is much more pleasant than me, and consequently she only has 10 unique critics total. On the whole board. Going back several months.

But to fully understand these numbers, I have to say a few things:

1. These two are by far the biggest critics. Out of the entire forum, no one else feels anywhere near as strongly against the two of us.
2. These numbers would be much higher if I hadn't programmed in a "circuit breaker" to prevent one person from exceeding 25% of a given victim's downvotes!

Again, it can't be emphasized enough that this is the ENTIRE FORUM we're talking about. CathInfo doesn't just have 1 or 2 dozen active members.  We have hundreds. And none of them see the feminism or liberalism that Telesphorus and PaxRomanum apparently see. Therefore, they are extreme and are "off", since they are quite alone.

Even on a hard-core, anti-liberal, anti-feminist, serious Trad board like CathInfo.

Do you understand the significance of this? Even their friends (assuming they have any) don't agree with them! Or they would be close behind them in downvotes. But no, the hypothetical friends of these two individuals must just be giving them lip service and/or changing the subject -- because they certainly don't see the "issues" that Telesphorus and PaxRomanum see.

Offline Matthew

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Telesphorus and Pax Romanum have a problem
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2013, 12:02:01 PM »
If anyone asks "how can someone get more than 25% of the downvotes? I thought that wasn't possible?"

It's because the first 20 downvotes are a "freebie" -- When a person has less than 20 downvotes, it's "anything goes". The circuit breakers don't trip in until the person has a certain number of downvotes.


Telesphorus and Pax Romanum have a problem
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2013, 12:03:41 PM »
So not only do you reveal who posts anonymous posts, but now you reveal who is downrating you, because you're stung by my downrates?

You should appreciate having someone to downrate you.

It's not as though I don't uprate you.

Offline Matthew

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Telesphorus and Pax Romanum have a problem
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2013, 12:08:12 PM »
You've uprated me 18 times, and MaterDominici 5 times, yes.

I don't have a problem with "critics". As you can see, I have 28 of them from the past few months. It's part of the game. But I'm saying that you take it too far.

If my posts were that deserving of criticism, you would have more competition being "#1" among my critics. But the point of the OP is -- you don't.

The point is that you are head-and-shoulders above everyone else when it comes to seeing a "problem" with me or my posts.

Ergo, the problem is all in your mind and doesn't exist.

Telesphorus and Pax Romanum have a problem
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2013, 12:09:59 PM »
Quote from: Matthew
I'm not familiar with the concept -- you join a forum, spend practically ALL DAY there, but you CAN'T STAND the owners?

Here is the breakdown of downvotes for the forum owner and his wife:

Matthew: PaxRomanum18 (25.71%, or 27 downvotes)  Telesphorus (23.81%, or 25 downvotes). From there, it goes to 12.3%, then 4.7%, then it trails off.

MaterDominici: Telesphorus (40.74%, or 11 downvotes)  PaxRomanum18 (18.52%, or 5 downvotes). From there, it drops to 7.4%, and the list ends very quickly soon thereafter.

Let it be noted that my wife is much more pleasant than me, and consequently she only has 10 unique critics total. On the whole board. Going back several months.

But to fully understand these numbers, I have to say a few things:

1. These two are by far the biggest critics. Out of the entire forum, no one else feels anywhere near as strongly against the two of us.
2. These numbers would be much higher if I hadn't programmed in a "circuit breaker" to prevent one person from exceeding 25% of a given victim's downvotes!

Again, it can't be emphasized enough that this is the ENTIRE FORUM we're talking about. CathInfo doesn't just have 1 or 2 dozen active members.  We have hundreds. And none of them see the feminism or liberalism that Telesphorus and PaxRomanum apparently see. Therefore, they are extreme and are "off", since they are quite alone.

Even on a hard-core, anti-liberal, anti-feminist, serious Trad board like CathInfo.

Do you understand the significance of this? Even their friends (assuming they have any) don't agree with them! Or they would be close behind them in downvotes. But no, the hypothetical friends of these two individuals must just be giving them lip service and/or changing the subject -- because they certainly don't see the "issues" that Telesphorus and PaxRomanum see.


I don't disagree that they are wrong.  I have not followed them.  But your argumentation is faulty:

We have hundreds. And none of them see the feminism or liberalism that Telesphorus and PaxRomanum apparently see. Therefore, they are extreme and are "off", since they are quite alone.

What is the therefore there for?  Extremism is counted by vote.  Say 99 out of 100 believe abortion is okay at least for some reason.  Does that make the 1 an extremist?  For a convincing argument you have to give a sound reason, something apart from how many agree with them or not.  Are we not out numbered by the novus ordo 1 billion to like 100,000 or something?  Does that make us extreme?  We are called extreme but we are far more orthodox than they.  They are extreme in their acceptance of heresy and faulty liturgy.  We are not.  It is not the numbers that make one extreme.  

And 7 billion do not consider themselves Catholics while 1 billion do.  Does that make us extreme.  

Your argument about "how many agree with them" follows the same faulty reasoning.  

Again you probably have come to the right conclusion but your reasoning behind that conclusion being valid is faulty.  

Do you see my point?