I'm not familiar with the concept -- you join a forum, spend practically ALL DAY there, but you CAN'T STAND the owners?

Here is the breakdown of downvotes for the forum owner and his wife:

Matthew: PaxRomanum18 (25.71%, or 27 downvotes)  Telesphorus (23.81%, or 25 downvotes). From there, it goes to 12.3%, then 4.7%, then it trails off.

MaterDominici: Telesphorus (40.74%, or 11 downvotes)  PaxRomanum18 (18.52%, or 5 downvotes). From there, it drops to 7.4%, and the list ends very quickly soon thereafter.

Let it be noted that my wife is much more pleasant than me, and consequently she only has 10 unique critics total. On the whole board. Going back several months.

But to fully understand these numbers, I have to say a few things:

1. These two are by far the biggest critics. Out of the entire forum, no one else feels anywhere near as strongly against the two of us.
2. These numbers would be much higher if I hadn't programmed in a "circuit breaker" to prevent one person from exceeding 25% of a given victim's downvotes!

Again, it can't be emphasized enough that this is the ENTIRE FORUM we're talking about. CathInfo doesn't just have 1 or 2 dozen active members.  We have hundreds. And none of them see the feminism or liberalism that Telesphorus and PaxRomanum apparently see. Therefore, they are extreme and are "off", since they are quite alone.

Even on a hard-core, anti-liberal, anti-feminist, serious Trad board like CathInfo.

Do you understand the significance of this? Even their friends (assuming they have any) don't agree with them! Or they would be close behind them in downvotes. But no, the hypothetical friends of these two individuals must just be giving them lip service and/or changing the subject -- because they certainly don't see the "issues" that Telesphorus and PaxRomanum see.

So not only do you reveal who posts anonymous posts, but now you reveal who is downrating you, because you're stung by my downrates?

You should appreciate having someone to downrate you.

It's not as though I don't uprate you.

I'm not familiar with the concept -- you join a forum, spend practically ALL DAY there, but you CAN'T STAND the owners?

Here is the breakdown of downvotes for the forum owner and his wife:

Matthew: PaxRomanum18 (25.71%, or 27 downvotes)  Telesphorus (23.81%, or 25 downvotes). From there, it goes to 12.3%, then 4.7%, then it trails off.

MaterDominici: Telesphorus (40.74%, or 11 downvotes)  PaxRomanum18 (18.52%, or 5 downvotes). From there, it drops to 7.4%, and the list ends very quickly soon thereafter.

Let it be noted that my wife is much more pleasant than me, and consequently she only has 10 unique critics total. On the whole board. Going back several months.

But to fully understand these numbers, I have to say a few things:

1. These two are by far the biggest critics. Out of the entire forum, no one else feels anywhere near as strongly against the two of us.
2. These numbers would be much higher if I hadn't programmed in a "circuit breaker" to prevent one person from exceeding 25% of a given victim's downvotes!

Again, it can't be emphasized enough that this is the ENTIRE FORUM we're talking about. CathInfo doesn't just have 1 or 2 dozen active members.  We have hundreds. And none of them see the feminism or liberalism that Telesphorus and PaxRomanum apparently see. Therefore, they are extreme and are "off", since they are quite alone.

Even on a hard-core, anti-liberal, anti-feminist, serious Trad board like CathInfo.

Do you understand the significance of this? Even their friends (assuming they have any) don't agree with them! Or they would be close behind them in downvotes. But no, the hypothetical friends of these two individuals must just be giving them lip service and/or changing the subject -- because they certainly don't see the "issues" that Telesphorus and PaxRomanum see.

I don't disagree that they are wrong.  I have not followed them.  But your argumentation is faulty:

We have hundreds. And none of them see the feminism or liberalism that Telesphorus and PaxRomanum apparently see. Therefore, they are extreme and are "off", since they are quite alone.

What is the therefore there for?  Extremism is counted by vote.  Say 99 out of 100 believe abortion is okay at least for some reason.  Does that make the 1 an extremist?  For a convincing argument you have to give a sound reason, something apart from how many agree with them or not.  Are we not out numbered by the novus ordo 1 billion to like 100,000 or something?  Does that make us extreme?  We are called extreme but we are far more orthodox than they.  They are extreme in their acceptance of heresy and faulty liturgy.  We are not.  It is not the numbers that make one extreme.  

And 7 billion do not consider themselves Catholics while 1 billion do.  Does that make us extreme.  

Your argument about "how many agree with them" follows the same faulty reasoning.  

Again you probably have come to the right conclusion but your reasoning behind that conclusion being valid is faulty.  

Do you see my point?

No, you are wrong, because we're talking about CathInfo.

CathInfo is already the "truth", the minority.

When even other hardcore Trad Catholics think you're extreme, you're extreme.


Sometimes, when you're a minority of 1, you're just crazy. That's the truth.

No one has started a chocolate-covered cheeseburger restaurant yet! I'm a genius!  I'll be rich!

...or, maybe there's a reason no one thought of it yet.

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No, you are wrong, because we're talking about CathInfo.

CathInfo is already the "truth", the minority.

We're talking about YOU personally.

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When even other hardcore Trad Catholics think you're extreme, you're extreme.

The majority here doesn't have a problem with me.

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Sometimes, when you're a minority of 1, you're just crazy. That's the truth.

"minority of one" - who are you kidding?

I know you're talking about me, and no I'm not kidding anyone.

You are a minority of 2, in having a problem with my posts (or me).

No one else has that much problem with me.

someone just told me:

I saw that.  It's funny actually.
You know
if you have a problem with somebody personally like that
you contact them privately.
You don't create threads about it.
Obviously Matthew is very sensitive about it.
I've down-thumbed him before.
I don't downthumb very often, however.

so much for being alone

I was thinking that you've become quite obsessed with disliking me and my wife lately.

Disliking your posts, like this thread?

I wonder why?

Seriously, I think you misapprehend what's going on for whatever reason.

Maybe you're feeling stung, I don't know.

I have a question for you Tele.

You regularly accuse people on this forum of being liberals, ungodly or pretend Catholics.  But it's impossible to notice your post count, both under your own name and anonymously and the fact that when I post at 7-8am in the morning before I start work, you are often replying within minutes, in the middle of the US night there in Cincinnati.  You do, it seems, spend inordinate amounts of time posting to this forum.  So much, in fact, that I and many others, wonder what else you do with your life.

It's pretty simple.  It's called doing what is best with my time, since I am shunned by people who support those who make false accusations, as you do, attacking the reputations of betrayed Catholic family men, speaking of a "welfare, homeschooling and gardening lifestyle"

Posting on this forum is a great advantage to me.  I have many opportunities for friendship and advancement I otherwise wouldn't have.

As a single man in relatively good health how do you square posting all day and all night (and I think Matthew's stats would confirm this) with being a staunch and serious Catholic? Surely, even if you cannot get a job, there are day-time masses, devotions and all sorts of charitable works you could be doing.

How do you justify spending the time here that you do?

It's quite simple:

when people who say that they have reservations about what might have changed in the Catholic religion go on to promote liberalism on a Catholic forum, they need to be opposed.  Someone has to oppose liberals.  I have the intellect and the means to do it.

Do you think any resistance priest would condone the amount of time you spend on here or would they tell you to quit and go and do something more productive with your life?

I think the amount of time I would spend in such occupations would be greatly reduced if people here were doing their job.