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« on: November 13, 2015, 10:50:05 AM »
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  • Got their latest catalog -- their Christmas catalog. On November 12th. 2 1/2 weeks before Advent.

    Very much in line with the Modern World how it celebrates "the holidays" -- as early and as long as possible, to maximize profits. People spend more during the holidays.

    But that's a small matter compared to what's inside. Not even looking at the text, just browsing the pages, I found two groan-inducing pictures.

    1. Multiculturalist TAN: A white boy with his Asian sister. If that wasn't enough, they also JUST SO HAPPEN to have the book opened to the page on St. Martin de Porres! There aren't a ton of black saints, but they found one. They completed the trifecta! White, asian, black. Japeth, sem, and cham.

    2. Ideal modern family TAN: Note the (clipart) picture they use to show a typical family. Mom, dad, and 2 kids. (I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt that the kid on the left is a girl. If it's a boy, then there's a much worse #4 I need to add: "post-binary-gender TAN"!) This is indeed a typical family in 2015 -- among modern birth-control users. This includes pagans as well as Novus Ordo Catholics. But NOT Traditional Catholics, who are the ones interested in TAN Books. What are they smoking?

    3. Novus Ordo TAN: "Whether for their first Reconciliation" Trad Catholics don't call it that. We call it CONFESSION or the SACRAMENT OF PENANCE.

    4. Gender-equality or feminist TAN: "Whether for their first Reconciliation" it's disturbing to see a print publication use the modern "their" instead of "his". How nice of TAN to not offend the man-hating feminists! It used to be "Your child can use this for his First Confession." It could refer to a girl or a boy.

    Spanish still does this. A group of boys and girls is "ellos". Whenever the gender is unknown or mixed, it defaults to the "masculine" form.

    5. Immodesty-approving TAN: That woman is wearing a low-cut neckline. Yes, of course I've seen worse. But that isn't the point. This is the picture chosen for the Winter 2015 TAN BOOKS Catholic book catalog. They can do better than that. I also bet you $20 that woman works outside the home.

    P.S. The fact that they used (or didn't use) clipart is beside the point. They approved of it. They accepted it and inserted it into their catalog. It doesn't matter if they shot the photos themselves, or bought them from someone else. They wanted a certain look, they found/made such a picture, approved it, and spread it to the 4 corners of the earth. Whose camera took the picture is quite irrelevant.
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    « Reply #1 on: November 13, 2015, 12:09:38 PM »
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    Could it be you're being a bit too hard on them, Matthew?  I mean, for all we know, they might be doing their best and really don't know any better.  They may be ignorant of how "reconciliation" is a replacement word for penance.  They might be totally oblivious to how penance has become a 'dirty word' in Newchurch -- in fact, for them, penance may have ALWAYS been a dirty word.  Perhaps they come from Protestantism where WORKS are maligned as having no spiritual value (even though the Bible teaches otherwise) since their Puritan or Calvinist forebears taught them the heresy of Protestantism.  This may be how it's always been for them, and so, that would make them effectively invincible in their state of unknowing.  

    That can't be their fault, now could it?

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    1. Multiculturalist TAN: A white boy with his Asian sister.


    Upon closer look, the boy appears he could be at least half Asian, no?

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    « Reply #2 on: November 13, 2015, 12:30:11 PM »
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  • I agree with this post.  I grew up with Tan.  As a small boy I had a bookcase full of their books and continued to read them in my adolescence and adulthood.  But when they filed bankruptcy and then sold off to someone else they went modernist.

    But seriously, that this post addresses the supposed issue of "multiculturism" while ignoring the fact that the girl's sleaves are immodestly much less than directed by the popes, tells me that the poster doesn't have his mind in the right place.  We are Catholics, not Southern Baptist.  Get your act together.  I skimmed, but saw no comment regarding the immodesty of dress?? Apparently, in your chapel only caucasians can be Catholics.  This post is extremely offensive to me personally.
    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...

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    « Reply #3 on: November 13, 2015, 01:52:59 PM »
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  • "Reconciliation" is a new novous term.  Everything is being done in phases.  
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    « Reply #4 on: November 13, 2015, 01:57:48 PM »
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  • Does TAN have "Liberalism is a Sin" in Spanish?
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    « Reply #5 on: November 13, 2015, 02:09:39 PM »
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  • Quote from: Matthew
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    But that's a small matter compared to what's inside. Not even looking at the text, just browsing the pages, I found two groan-inducing pictures.

    1. Multiculturalist TAN: A white boy with his Asian sister. If that wasn't enough, they also JUST SO HAPPEN to have the book opened to the page on St. Martin de Porres! There aren't a ton of black saints, but they found one. They completed the trifecta! White, asian, black. Japeth, sem, and cham.
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    That's not multicultural; that's multi-racial. Which the Church is.


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    « Reply #6 on: November 13, 2015, 02:16:19 PM »
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    I agree with this post.  I grew up with Tan.  As a small boy I had a bookcase full of their books and continued to read them in my adolescence and adulthood.  But when they filed bankruptcy and then sold off to someone else they went modernist.

    But seriously, that this post addresses the supposed issue of "multiculturism" while ignoring the fact that the girl's sleaves are immodestly much less than directed by the popes, tells me that the poster doesn't have his mind in the right place.  We are Catholics, not Southern Baptist.  Get your act together.  I skimmed, but saw no comment regarding the immodesty of dress?? Apparently, in your chapel only caucasians can be Catholics.  This post is extremely offensive to me personally.


    I can tell you read my critique of their "politically correct racial diversity" and immediately shut down and stopped reading.

    Then you have the nerve to criticize me!

    Did you read heading #5? It wasn't buried; it was one of the headings!

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    5. Immodesty-approving TAN: That woman is wearing a low-cut neckline.


    I know that race is a personal thing for you, but I didn't mean it to be offensive. I'm just pointing out that the Catholic Church doesn't do the "mandatory racial diversity in every advertisement" thing. That has only been vogue in America for 30 years or so.

    Did anyone see the recent Google doodle? It was for Veteran's day. They had 3 women and 4 men, but virtually all of them are non-white. And this is Google.com, an American company and certainly aimed at the English-speaking world (United States, Canada, England, Ireland, Australia, New Zealand, etc.) Don't you think they could have managed more than 1 white person?

    And if I recall correctly, the token white person was kind of iffy.
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    « Reply #7 on: November 13, 2015, 02:24:59 PM »
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  • Here it is:

    I'm sure they're proud of how many elderly black women we have in our military. I tell you what though -- if I were Russia or China, I wouldn't be afraid of them.

    God made men stronger, with a brain that can handle the horrors of combat (without damaging their fundamental nature), and only men should be in the military. Perhaps in a few rare cases, some (unmarried) women could serve as secretaries, dispatch operators, nurses, etc. Basically like 75 years ago.

    Even in domestic law enforcement -- those 90 pound female cops can't really do their job, strictly speaking. When a perpetrator is combative, or strong, or difficult, they radio for help from their stronger, male colleagues.

    Testosterone is what makes one aggressive and good at fighting. Men produce more of this hormone. Women just don't have as much. Plus the bodies are designed differently. It's a question of biology.
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    « Reply #8 on: November 13, 2015, 02:24:59 PM »
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  • The vast majority of soldiers are white men, so the google doodle was doubly offensive.

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    « Reply #9 on: November 13, 2015, 02:26:33 PM »
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  • Quote from: antibostonken
    The vast majority of soldiers are white men, so the google doodle was doubly offensive.


    Exactly. In their quest for multicultural, political correctness, they're discriminating against white men!

    I want to see SOME good-old white bread in there. Come on, we're at least half the country, let's be realistic.

    Like all those catchy Facebook graphics say:

    Black pride? Great!
    Latino pride? Great!
    Asian pride? Great!
    Arab pride? Great!
    White pride? Racist! Hitler! Monster! Get out of my sight and burn the carpet you stood on!

    Multiculturalism says you can't criticize any group, except whites, and men in particular.

    As a white man, I say (censored) them.

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    « Reply #10 on: November 13, 2015, 03:42:31 PM »
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    And if I recall correctly, the token white person was kind of iffy.


     :roll-laugh1: :roll-laugh1: :roll-laugh1:

    Are we talking "creepy ass cracka'" George Zimmerman iffy?   :roll-laugh1:


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    « Reply #11 on: November 13, 2015, 04:46:03 PM »
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    As a white man, I say (censored) them.




    It's always funny to know that Americans are the only people in the world to think that 'white' is a race or culture.  To us we are white, but in every other continent and culture we are simply 'American'.  Nobody will call a black person black in Guatemala or a white person 'white'.  I heard once about another American in a small city in Guatemala.  When I met him I was very surprised that he was black and nobody told me.  They didn't see him as black.  They saw him as American. His skin color was IRRELEVANT.  This is when my world view began to change.
    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...

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    « Reply #12 on: November 13, 2015, 05:08:14 PM »
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  • CentroAmerica,

    You have totally misunderstood, and put words in my mouth that I never said, and put beliefs in my head that don't exist.

    I will correct you later, but right now I have less than 1 hour of sunlight, and work to do outside. So I'll unlock this thread then and we'll pick it up there.

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    « Reply #13 on: November 13, 2015, 06:43:29 PM »
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  • First of all, you're talking about a different identity (Nation) which is different from Race.

    God blessed us with 4 forms of identity, which function as pillars -- all of which the Jєωs wish to destroy, or at least confuse into oblivion:

    Religion
    Race
    Nation
    Gender

    I am a Catholic, white (German/Irish), American, male. Each of those things contributes huge chunks of who I am. If any of those things were changed, my very identity would be changed drastically.

    Look down the list -- the Jєωs (via the media, their grip on the money system, their creation of modern "culture", etc.) are attacking all 4 pillars of identity:
    * They want everyone to be watered down protestant or Novus Ordo (but I repeat myself), so religion doesn't define your life at all.
    * They want to confuse the genders and gender roles -- the alphabet soup is now up to LGBTQI (am I leaving any out)? I don't even know what they all mean anymore.
    * They want One World Government (bye bye National identity)
    * And of course the want miscegenation as much as possible, to get rid of any residual Catholic influence.


    I'm not against Miscegenation in principle, as if it were sinful, and I certainly think Mexico is a good example of how it could be a good thing WHEN DONE FOR THE CATHOLIC FAITH.

    But the Jєωs don't want all races to blend into one for the sake of aggrandizing the Catholic Faith or creating new Catholic nations like Mexico. Don't kid yourself!

    On the contrary, they want us to be rudderless, identity-less (disolve, or break down) so they can provide us with a NEW identity (et coagula - and build up). That's the motto of the Freemasons, by the way: disolve, et coagula. And who created the Freemasons? The Jєωs.

    So I'm not behind the Jєωιѕн program, no I'm not. I'll admit that much.

    But I have nothing against Mexicans, South Americans, or any other Catholic nations for that matter. I'm actually quite fond of the Spanish speaking, Catholic nations to the south of me. Yes, I know that these nations were born of Spanish-Indian miscegenation. But what resulted? A new Catholic culture; a bunch of Catholic nations. Therefore, it was obviously God's will (not just His permissive will) and a good thing.


    Now regarding my original post --

    I am only mocking and complaining about the modern tendency towards "Affirmative Action in Advertising", which I'll call AAA, for lack of a better term. If you have 3 people, you have to make one white, one black, and one Asian or Hispanic. Oh, and 50% of them have to be women. No matter if the graphic is talking about Engineering school. They should just pick photos for their advertisements WITHOUT OVER-THINKING what race they are. But I (and many others) can tell when they're over-thinking. Do you think TAN just happened to pick the page for St. Martin de Porres, about the most famous (only famous?) black saint. And whether the kids are white, Asian or white/Asian, they certainly didn't have a black kid in that photo. So by "coincidentally" opening the book to St. Martin de Porres, they cover all their bases. They get lots of bonus Diversity Points from the School of Political Correctness.

    I think that's stupid. They're patronizing black people when they do that, and I'd be offended if I were black. Just ask black people what they think of the "token black man" in your average Hollywood movie. They always shoe-horn one in. Do you think the blacks (or anyone else) can't see through that? I think it's cynical, disrespectful, and worse than accidentally leaving them out of a picture once in a while. Everyone participating in AAA is basiscally saying the blacks or asians are irrational, emotional children who are going to have a hissy fit if I don't give them enough representation in every ad, book, movie, etc. How is that not "racist" (in the true sense) to be thus cynical about a given ethnic group?

    I hope you better understand my position now.

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    « Reply #14 on: November 13, 2015, 07:01:03 PM »
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    Whew!  That was a close one.  I saw the thread was locked and I thought I had really stirred the pot this time.  But now, looking back, it wasn't what I said at all, correct?

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