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Offline LordPhan

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Taking over a country
« on: April 24, 2011, 04:08:16 PM »
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  • So I saw this thread on AngelQueen
    http://angelqueen.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=29585

    and I was wondering if it was at all possible to do.

    Call me a dreamer but if we had enough people I think it'd be possible to overthrow a small country and institute a Traditional Catholic Monarchy.

    Then we could all live in peace. What does everyone else think?

    Is it possible? Could anyone organize such a thing?

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    « Reply #1 on: April 24, 2011, 04:18:05 PM »
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  • You could start with joining us in praying for the advent of the Great Monarch.


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    « Reply #2 on: April 24, 2011, 08:02:05 PM »
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  • I am troubled by how the Church accepts governments that were installed by revolution as legitimate, yet we aren't allowed to start any revolutions!

    The only way it makes sense to me is that God delivers us to our enemies from time to time, like the Jews in Babylon.  He is also the only one who can get us out.

    But as far as Catholic revolutions go, the House of Guise came pretty close.  The House of Guise was a hardline Catholic family that was more popular with the French people than the monarchy in the 16th century.  They set up what was called the Holy League.  The Duke of Guise, like Essex in England later, except a Catholic version, always seemed like a threat to the sitting monarch.  The Duke of Guise was led into an ambush and King Henry III kicked his dead body in the face ( according to the Catholic Encylopedia, not just to rumor ).



    After the Duke of Guise died, Henri IV the former Huguenot ( Protestant ) took the throne.  He had to convert to Catholicism to do so, but how sincere was it?  He is the one who allegedly said "Paris vaut une Messe," or "Paris is worth a Mass," i.e. he'll sit through a Mass if he can be king.  His life is disgusting to read about, frankly.  He is also famous for the Edict of Nantes extending religious toleration to the Prots.  In my opinion, that was the beginning of the end.

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    « Reply #3 on: April 24, 2011, 08:21:55 PM »
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  • Quote from: Raoul76
    I am troubled by how the Church accepts governments that were installed by revolution as legitimate, yet we aren't allowed to start any revolutions!

    The only way it makes sense to me is that God delivers us to our enemies from time to time, like the Jews in Babylon.  He is also the only one who can get us out.

    But as far as Catholic revolutions go, the House of Guise came pretty close.  The House of Guise was a hardline Catholic family that was more popular with the French people than the monarchy in the 16th century.  They set up what was called the Holy League.  The Duke of Guise, like Essex in England later, except a Catholic version, always seemed like a threat to the sitting monarch.  The Duke of Guise was led into an ambush and King Henry III kicked his dead body in the face ( according to the Catholic Encylopedia, not just to rumor ).



    After the Duke of Guise died, Henri IV the former Huguenot ( Protestant ) took the throne.  He had to convert to Catholicism to do so, but how sincere was it?  He is the one who allegedly said "Paris vaut une Messe," or "Paris is worth a Mass," i.e. he'll sit through a Mass if he can be king.  His life is disgusting to read about, frankly.  He is also famous for the Edict of Nantes extending religious toleration to the Prots.  In my opinion, that was the beginning of the end.



    I like your post sir, but I wasn't saying we should overthrow them in a violent insurrection more like use their democratic government against them by outnumbering them and electing our own to then peaceably vote in a monarch.

    Is it not possible? Anyway I was wondering if it can be done is on the AQ thread which I can't post to because apparently registration is closed to new members, they were listing places with small populations to mass immigrate to. Someone also suggested taking over a low populated american state such as Montana or North Dakota. Though I don't see succeeding being an option after that war you guys had in the 1860's.


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    Taking over a country
    « Reply #4 on: April 24, 2011, 08:49:15 PM »
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    I like your post sir, but I wasn't saying we should overthrow them in a violent insurrection more like use their democratic government against them by outnumbering them and electing our own to then peaceably vote in a monarch.


    Sir, in sooth, thy words, most sugared o'er with praise for thy servant, would fain leaven me to surfeit in my vile self, had I not the love for Jesus Christ that bids me regard only the spots and cankers of my most wretched soul, never my virtues.  

    After the Minor Chastisement if enough Catholics were amassed in one place, you could have a little Mad Max style commune that is Catholic.  I don't see why not.  You'd have to defend your turf against gangs.  

    Personally, I'm thinking along other lines, the ones laid out already in prophecy, that speak of a holy war the likes of which the world has never seen.  
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    « Reply #5 on: April 25, 2011, 03:44:36 PM »
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    you could have a little Mad Max style commune that is Catholic.



    You must read my thoughts or something.. I was talking about this very issue with a friend the other day. Mad Max style roving nomadic tribes will be the only way to survive in the end times.

     

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