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Old Holy Week Masses and Tenebrae in York, PA (Pre-Bugnini)
« on: April 10, 2019, 09:48:28 AM »
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  • Received this email from a good friend of ours this morning.  Thought I would share it in case any of you are interested in going and/or participating.


    "Dear friends/colleagues/contacts:

    I am writing to all of you as acquaintances (more or less thorough) I made over the years in connection with the Roman liturgy and Gregorian chant, and to ask for your assistance in whatever capacity you may be able to manage. Please forgive any impertinence in contacting you “out of the blue.” May I ask you please to take 2 minutes to review the following and consider giving it as wide a circulation as possible.

    My family and I are scheduled to lead (however inadequately) the music program for the traditional Holy Week and Triduum ceremonies at Ss Peter and Paul in York, PA, in the coming week. Regrettably, and only recently, my key collaborator and assistant, our dear friend Fr. Joseph Collins, who has been the backbone of our program (as a singer, rather than celebrant) for more than 10 years, was taken extremely ill – perhaps to the point of death, which is predicted (though against all our hopes and prayers) imminently – with an aggressive cancer, and, despite his previous plans, will be unable to participate in the ceremonies (he is convalescing in Glenmont, NY, where he has served a small chapel for 20 years).

    Notwithstanding my sadness, in practical terms this has left me without a key collaborator for the liturgical music next week. I write to all of you, therefore, to solicit any possible assistance, either by way of your participation (which I acknowledge may be unlikely at this late date and/or because of commitments you all likely have), or by way of your passing this message on to anyone in the greater DC-MD-PA-VA-NJ area who may be able and wish to participate musically in the traditional Holy Week ceremonies.

    Based upon the program we have consistently followed (this is our 11th-13th year depending on how one reckons the dates), our plans are:

    - Tenebrae each night (Wed, Th, Fri), where we sing the traditional psalmody, all the responsories of Matins (some Gregorian, some polyphonic), and the Matins lessons in various beautiful Mozarabic and Roman tones

    - The Gregorian propers and Ordinary for each Mass or liturgical service – Holy Thursday (with polyphonic Sanctus and Agnus Dei), Good Friday (Mass of the Pre-sanctified with all tracts, reproaches, the Crux Fidelis, and other chants from the liturgy), and Holy Saturday, with prophecies and tracts (including Palestrina’s Sicut Cervus), the Mass propers, and Vespers (which is integrated into the liturgy on this day). (For Vespers we sing beautiful three-part settings by Byrd of the reprise of the Alleluia and the Vespere Autem.)

    - Various polyphonic hymns by the standard composers are sprinkled throughout the liturgy as well.

    - Recto tono Vespers follows the liturgies on Thursday and Friday, with the stripping of the altar on Thursday as well.

    - The Allegri Miserere is sung on the last night of Tenebrae in place of the recto.

    - On Easter with sing the Byrd 3-voice Mass along with his Christus Resurgens and an Italian setting of Maria Magdalene, plus the Gregorian propers.

    Though I have sung with a larger crew in prior years, last year – based on logistic constraints – it was just father, the family, and myself. Now with father out of the picture, I am carrying the load alone – which I am prepared to do, naturally, but would prefer not.

    I apologize in advance for the obvious and admitted last-minute nature of the email. I recognize any additional participation may be impossible at this point given the timing. Unfortunately, it has only become clear over the last week that Fr. will be out of the picture. Any circulation you are prepared to give this email to anyone in the area, outside of my very narrow range of contacts, would be deeply appreciated.

    And could I meanwhile beseech your prayers for Fr.’s recovery – miraculous, if need be, or, failing that, a happy death.

    God bless you and thank you in advance.

    John Sharpe
    (john.sharpe@charter.net)"
    "Jesus, Meek and Humble of Heart, make my heart like unto Thine!"

    http://whoshallfindavaliantwoman.blogspot.com/


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    Re: Old Holy Week Masses and Tenebrae in York, PA (Pre-Bugnini)
    « Reply #1 on: April 11, 2019, 08:12:29 AM »
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  • Isn't this the same saints peter and paul chapel which housed and supported fr. Marshall roberts for quite some time, and also "fr" tetherow?

    "Fr." Tetherow has been laicised by the same NO church who ordained him and is on the bishop's accountability list for perversion.  

    Fr. Roberts is written up clearly in Randy Engels book regarding perversion in the catholic Church.  

    Who is their priest now?  Fr. Urrutigoity?


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    Re: Old Holy Week Masses and Tenebrae in York, PA (Pre-Bugnini)
    « Reply #2 on: April 11, 2019, 12:55:44 PM »
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  • Isn't this the same saints peter and paul chapel which housed and supported fr. Marshall roberts for quite some time, and also "fr" tetherow?

    "Fr." Tetherow has been laicised by the same NO church who ordained him and is on the bishop's accountability list for perversion.  

    Fr. Roberts is written up clearly in Randy Engels book regarding perversion in the catholic Church.  

    Who is their priest now?  Fr. Urrutigoity?
    The name of the chapel is Sts. Peter and Paul, and it may be possible that there was another priest there before.  I am only familiar with its present situation.  Fr. Collins was there last year for Holy Week.  So, I am guessing if there was a problem with it before that there isn't anymore.  Their priest is Father Samuel Walters, who was previously a priest of the SSPX and before that a USAF military chaplain.
    Here is his profile below from linked in:
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/rev-fr-samuel-waters-traditional-rc-priest-09502818
    Hope this helps answer your questions and concerns!
    "Jesus, Meek and Humble of Heart, make my heart like unto Thine!"

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    Re: Old Holy Week Masses and Tenebrae in York, PA (Pre-Bugnini)
    « Reply #3 on: April 11, 2019, 01:47:48 PM »
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  •  Their priest is Father Samuel Walters, who was previously a priest of the SSPX and before that a USAF military chaplain.
    Here is his profile below from linked in:
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/rev-fr-samuel-waters-traditional-rc-priest-09502818
    Hope this helps answer your questions and concerns!
    Thank you for the information.
    I can find nothing online about him to verify.
    I pray they have better luck with fr. Walters than they did with their previous priests.

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    Re: Old Holy Week Masses and Tenebrae in York, PA (Pre-Bugnini)
    « Reply #4 on: April 11, 2019, 02:45:16 PM »
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  • Fr. Roberts came at the recommendation of Fr. John Fullerton as District Superior through Fr. Arthur de Maio who helped our Mission as well as the SSPX in the Scranton, PA area . The SSPX has always hated our chapel because of our defense of Dogma and the pre-Bugnini Missal. Through Fr. Roberts, the SSPX tried to have the Mission formally adopt the 1962 Missal which is in our bylaws.  After this defeat, they again used Fr. Roberts to campaign at the Mission to become an indult which the Mission had rejected from the Diocese of hαɾɾιsburg on two occasions. After this second defeat, Fr. Roberts issued an "ultimatum" in the name of Fr. John Fullerton. A letter went to +Fellay at that time and we have his reply on our files.

    Fr. Fullerton again highly recommended him to  the chapel in Jacksonville, Fl.

    Like many even now (including the SSPX after we expelled him), we believed Tetherow's lies. The SSPX liked him and also believed his lies. They invited him to serve Mass for Bishop de Gallarreta for Confirmations in Eddystone, PA I believe in June or July 2010. He was expelled by the Mission May 14 of the same year. Bishop Fellay came to York to consecrate Tetherow's new chapel but a York Newspaper reporter showed up and +Fellay fled immediately. After the Newspaper article, the lawyer for the SSPX in Kansas City called us with Fr. Rostand's "concerns" about the "rumor" that the SSPX had bought the chapel for Tetherow. I, (C. Drew), spoke to him personally and told him where the "rumor" came from. I was told by Fr. Arthur de Maio who was told by Fr. Fahnestock and called as a friend of SSP&P and us personally. On the same day, I was also told by our daughter who herd it from her mother in law, Donna Marbach. Mrs. Marbach asked our daughter on July 17 2010: "Did you go to the inauguration of the new SSPX chapel under Fr. Tetherow"? Our daughter was shocked. Marbachs were coordinators in Eddystone, PA for many years. I told the lawyer to call the two sources and ask them himself. Fr. de Maio and Fr. Fahnestock denied it and made me look like a liar. I don't know if he called Mrs. marbach or what she said. Fr. Fahnestock knows I'm telling the truth no matter how he denies it.

    Until the lawyer called us, we had no idea how rotten Tetherow was except for the nightmare and divisions, lies, detractions, calumnies...I did a search for the lawyer to remember the place where Tetherow was before he came to York and that was when I found the arrest of Fr. "Angelus" Ferrara in the newspapers. I emailed the information to the lawyer and he told my husband later that Tetherow had been forbidden to enter any SSPX chapels.

    http://www.saintspeterandpaulrcm.com/OPEN%20LETTERS/TETHEROW.htm

    https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/fr-pfeiffer-mentions-a-fr-tetherow-who/
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    Re: Old Holy Week Masses and Tenebrae in York, PA (Pre-Bugnini)
    « Reply #5 on: April 11, 2019, 04:43:37 PM »
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  • The name of the chapel is Sts. Peter and Paul, and it may be possible that there was another priest there before.  I am only familiar with its present situation.  Fr. Collins was there last year for Holy Week.  So, I am guessing if there was a problem with it before that there isn't anymore.  Their priest is Father Samuel Walters, who was previously a priest of the SSPX and before that a USAF military chaplain.
    Here is his profile below from linked in:
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/rev-fr-samuel-waters-traditional-rc-priest-09502818
    Hope this helps answer your questions and concerns!

    Fr. Waters has been with us since July 2010. He went through the SSPX priest training for which he remains grateful and worked with them for two years. He was conditionally ordained after he arrived in York.

    Fr. Collins was at SS Peter and Paul chapel last Holy Week to help the Sharpe Family with the singing. It was wonderful. Since Fr. Collins is not well, Mr. Sharpe is hoping to find someone to assist him.
    The love of God be your motivation, the will of God your guiding principle, the glory of God your goal.
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    Re: Old Holy Week Masses and Tenebrae in York, PA (Pre-Bugnini)
    « Reply #6 on: April 11, 2019, 04:49:28 PM »
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  • Fr. Waters has been with us since July 2010. He went through the SSPX priest training for which he remains grateful and worked with them for two years. He was conditionally ordained after he arrived in York.

    Fr. Collins was at SS Peter and Paul chapel last Holy Week to help the Sharpe Family with the singing. It was wonderful. Since Fr. Collins is not well, Mr. Sharpe is hoping to find someone to assist him.
    Thank you for the information and clarification.
    You say fr. Waters worked with the sspx before he was conditionally ordained.  Very interesting.
    And then fr. Waters was conditionally ordained after he arrived in york.  Who conditionally ordained him?

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    Re: Old Holy Week Masses and Tenebrae in York, PA (Pre-Bugnini)
    « Reply #7 on: April 11, 2019, 04:54:33 PM »
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  • Thank you for the information and clarification.
    You say fr. Waters worked with the sspx before he was conditionally ordained.  Very interesting.
    And then fr. Waters was conditionally ordained after he arrived in york.  Who conditionally ordained him?
    +Williamson, in his charity and for the good of souls.
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    Re: Old Holy Week Masses and Tenebrae in York, PA (Pre-Bugnini)
    « Reply #8 on: April 11, 2019, 05:37:38 PM »
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  • +Williamson, in his charity and for the good of souls.
    Thank you for the clarification and for your patience with my questions.
    God bless b. Williamson.
    I hope you are able to get the help you need.