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Re: Suscipe Domine Again
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2018, 03:40:19 PM »
The way of thinking and discussions on this forum are far better than those on forums like CAF and FishEaters. No better place for Trads to discourse  on the net right now.  This place does tend to be fairly alarmist when it comes to  the SSPX, but that's to be expected( as this is a forum of the Resistance ) 

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Re: Suscipe Domine Again
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2018, 04:13:34 PM »
Ggreg's the nutter. He's a Steve Sailer'esque type. They're a dime a dozen, if you have any familiarity with the kosher TakiMag/Unz crowd, bombarding you with minutiae and side-tracking tactics. He wrote an idiotic article for DailyCatholic on the one-year anniversary of 9/11 trying to manipulate trads into going into the Middle East for the Jews. It says all you need to know about SD that he's the most popular member over there.

This forum has gone downhill a bit in terms of quality of participants, but it's still the best trad Catholic forum I've come across. And it's been the best since it was started by Matthew after he'd been banned (or left, I forget which) by VoxClamantis. i had high hopes for the first ABLF forum, but it got really weird over there with DawnMarie and her gang.

There's been a drain of interesting members here. You used to have people like like Telesphorus, claudel, Raoul (as nutty as he was at times), columba, spouseofjesus, gladius veritatis, PilgrimageofGrace (who mainly posted on IgnisArdens), ServusSpiritus (who I haven't heard about since he abandoned the first ABLF forum), belloc, stevusmagnus, caminus, btnyc, graham, sedetrad, perejoseph, Charlemagne, Iuvenalis, partyisover221, Ethelred,  Mark79, JohnGrey, and many other quality members who weren't as prolific.

There must be some change in the zeitgeist to account for the bulk of these people no longer being here. I've read Graham on SuscipeDomine say that he's put off by the proliferation of flat-earthers.

PonDeReplay was Gilgamesh over on Fisheaters. He's always been interesting to read, but he's a bit of an actor like VetusOrdo. I never thought he was a believer.



Re: Suscipe Domine Again
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2018, 04:48:23 PM »
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This is a first for me, seeing this announced. I suspect I wouldn't hear a priest say this from the pulpit:
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Either you believe the Church was infiltrated by Freemasons (a conspiracy, and a secret society) or not.
If you don't believe such, you will end up Conservative Novus Ordo at best, but not Traditional Catholic.
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This implies that to be a Traditional Catholic you are first of all required to find out what it means to be a Freemason.
Otherwise, "believing the Church was infiltrated by Freemasons" wouldn't have any foundation.
IOW to believe such a thing without comprehension of the term would mean you don't know what you believe.
Can you imagine being a patriotic American without having any knowledge of world history?
Or having a job as an airline navigator while believing the earth is "flat?" -- Maybe that's a bad example!
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Merely reducing it to, "I believe the Church has been invaded by a conspiracy, a secret society," is insufficient, IMHO.
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I know fairly solid Traditional Catholics who don't know much about Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ and avoid finding out about them.
Does that mean they're going to lose their faith some day? Or that their Traditionalism is some kind of facade or game?
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As an aside, it would be refreshing for a change to see CI posts focusing on issues rather than on persons or perceived character of persons. It would be nice to see certain members leaving behind the bad habit of turning every conversation they touch into an exercise in talebearing.
 

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Re: Suscipe Domine Again
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2018, 04:50:13 PM »
There's been a drain of interesting members here. You used to have people like like Telesphorus, claudel, Raoul (as nutty as he was at times), columba, spouseofjesus, gladius veritatis, PilgrimageofGrace (who mainly posted on IgnisArdens), ServusSpiritus (who I haven't heard about since he abandoned the first ABLF forum), belloc, stevusmagnus, caminus, btnyc, graham, sedetrad, perejoseph, Charlemagne, Iuvenalis, partyisover221, Ethelred,  Mark79, JohnGrey, and many other quality members who weren't as prolific.

There must be some change in the zeitgeist to account for the bulk of these people no longer being here. I've read Graham on SuscipeDomine say that he's put off by the proliferation of flat-earthers.

1. Most of those people stopped posting for their own personal reasons. Most of those members you listed were not banned -- you can look each of them up if you want.

2. CathInfo is basically a microcosm of the Trad movement. The things you hate about Trads you're going to find on CI. The things you love about Trads you'll find on CI as well. Trads fail in charity, apostatize, go off the deep end, join personality cults or actual cults, have personal problems, leave for the Novus Ordo, etc. all the time -- so it stands to reason that CathInfo would experience that with some of its members. I know of several CI members who went back to the Novus Ordo, after experiencing the full package of Catholic Tradition for months or years. (That one reallly blows my mind.)

Ethelred jumped ship on his own because he stayed a bit too long on the Pfeiffer train. When I started defending +Williamson and +Zendejas from the lies coming from Boston, KY back in Nov 2014, that necessarily involved a falling-out with Fr. Pfeiffer and all those who insisted on supporting him. I think around a dozen Pfeifferites/Pablo supporters were banned at the time.

3. CathInfo is also nothing more/less than A) the moderator and his rules and B) the members who come and go almost constantly. So the subtotal of "what is CathInfo" changes from year to year because of B). When member X and Y leave, all the threads they loved and topics they obsessed about are going to take a lower place. The whole tenor of the forum might change, just with the advent of one or two members, or the departure of one or two members.

Like the Texas weather, "If you don't like CathInfo today, come back in a month or two and it will be different." (with the Texas weather, it's more like an hour or two)

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Re: Suscipe Domine Again
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2018, 04:51:54 PM »
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Does that mean they're going to lose their faith some day? Or that their Traditionalism is some kind of facade or game?
It means their Traditional status, or their resistance to Vatican II, is on shaky footing.
Eventually the allure of the 2000 year old Roman Catholic Church, its impressive buildings, its Papacy, and the Catholic virtue of Obedience will get them.

I've heard many people say that when you visit Rome, seeing all the large impressive churches it is very tempting to give up your Trad card and "come back home" to the Catholic Church.
Many have done so after a trip to Rome.