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Offline JezusDeKoning

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Re: Suggestions for Mexican Food?
« Reply #30 on: July 26, 2018, 10:31:16 PM »
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  • I know very little about Mexican food but when I look at the images here I have a feeling that it is not all that genuine but all VERY American! Like pineapple on Pizza!
    Sadly, a lot of it is Americanized. If you look hard in the right places, you can find the real deal. It is not as bad as pineapple pizza, which would get a pizzeria burned down if you tried it in Italy, but it is bad.
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    Re: Suggestions for Mexican Food?
    « Reply #31 on: July 26, 2018, 10:42:27 PM »
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  • For Friday how about fish tacos.
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    Re: Suggestions for Mexican Food?
    « Reply #32 on: July 26, 2018, 11:17:09 PM »
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  • I know very little about Mexican food but when I look at the images here I have a feeling that it is not all that genuine but all VERY American! Like pineapple on Pizza!
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    That is true of Taco Bell but not El Pollo Loco. (Translated the name refers to a chicken running around with its head off, something any farmer knows about.)
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    The marinade EPL uses is a family traditional recipe straight out of Mexico. The chicken is roasted over open flame, which you can see them doing when you walk in the front door. They're not hiding anything but the ingredients and spices. Not even the managers know the proportions and contents of the spice packets they get delivered. EPL roast chicken is Mexican to the bone.
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    As for the side dishes, they're fairly Mexican, however, slight modifications have crept in to appeal to the American customers. You can hardly get more Mexican than Serrano chili peppers, Haas avocados, cilantro, iceberg lettuce, pinto beans, corn tortillas, steamed rice, horchata and churros for dessert. The American influence is more in the presentation, like the circular fold burrito and tall tostada shells. Their food is essentially the same as what you find in Mexico, with a little nuance of American appearance, but the ingredients are all Mexican.
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    At the salsa bar EPL has whole, raw Serrano chilis. It is a very Mexican tradition to nibble on one chili while having a meal. Nothing American at all about it. Most Americans wouldn't touch them with a 10-foot pole! But if you give them a try, a little at a time, perhaps after a year or two, you will find they add a whole new dimension to the flavor of the food. They are an essential ingredient to the best guacamole, and they make pico de gallo what it is. I think they're hotter than jalapenos, but that's not a widely held opinion. They definitely have a different flavor than jalapenos -- similar but not the same. Different chilis are used for different sauces and effects.
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    Even Taco Bell relies on a particular blend of chili peppers for their signature Taco Bell taste. The flagship workhorse of Taco Bell, their crunchy taco, is an American adaptation of Mexican carne asada -- uses the same spices but ground hamburger instead of chopped steak. So that's really an Americanized food item because you can't find it in Mexico, nor at El Pollo Loco! All the EPL tacos have soft shells made of corn tortillas that are NOT deep fried (like Taco Bell's are).
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    Re: Suggestions for Mexican Food?
    « Reply #33 on: July 26, 2018, 11:40:03 PM »
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  • Sadly, a lot of it is Americanized. If you look hard in the right places, you can find the real deal. It is not as bad as pineapple pizza, which would get a pizzeria burned down if you tried it in Italy, but it is bad.
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    Americanized Mexican food has less, not more. 
    The American taste asks for less spicy, so Americanized Mexican food has less spiciness. 
    When Mexican food is Americanized something essential is REMOVED and very little is added. 
    Deep fried taco shells and deep fried wheat flour tostada shells are not Mexican, neither are they essential.
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    Re: Suggestions for Mexican Food?
    « Reply #34 on: July 28, 2018, 10:57:41 PM »
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  • Did anyone suggest pastel de tres leches for dessert?


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    Re: Suggestions for Mexican Food?
    « Reply #35 on: July 29, 2018, 09:16:07 AM »
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  • A good Mexican restaurant will have soup. I love their chicken tortilla soup. However, it's made differently everywhere I have gone. Sometimes its chicken soup with tortilla noodles. That and a side of rice and salad should be fine.


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    Re: Suggestions for Mexican Food?
    « Reply #36 on: July 29, 2018, 09:32:50 AM »
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  • A good Mexican restaurant will have soup. I love their chicken tortilla soup. However, it's made differently everywhere I have gone. Sometimes its chicken soup with tortilla noodles. That and a side of rice and salad should be fine.
    I'm thinking a Mexican Chop Salad with chicken.  I want to watch the fat intake as well.
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    Re: Suggestions for Mexican Food?
    « Reply #37 on: July 29, 2018, 09:45:47 AM »
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  • Sadly, a lot of it is Americanized. If you look hard in the right places, you can find the real deal. It is not as bad as pineapple pizza, which would get a pizzeria burned down if you tried it in Italy, but it is bad.
    :laugh1:  I love pineapple on my pizza.
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    Re: Suggestions for Mexican Food?
    « Reply #38 on: July 29, 2018, 05:02:44 PM »
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  • :laugh1:  I love pineapple on my pizza.
    and she's not a fan of spicy/hot and messy and she tries to steer clear of garlic/onion and she wants to watch the fat intake as well.

    :facepalm:
    :pray: Make sure you say Grace before the meal!

    Then go ahead and enjoy. :cheers: :jumping2:
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    Re: Suggestions for Mexican Food?
    « Reply #39 on: July 29, 2018, 05:05:41 PM »
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  • I'm not big on Mexican type food, so I rarely eat it. [....]

    Me neither!   The unavoidably overcooked ground beef in United-Statesian recipes might as well be replaced by the product of damp brown shirt-cardboard fed thro' a meat-grinder. Bleccch!  And I'm no fan of any cuisine that's based on drowning otherwise good food in whole cans-full of tomato sauce.[×]


    I'm not a fan of [...] messy [....]

    I agree.  Another reason why a Mexican restaurant would never be my own choice.  Especially not in circuмstances that require me to be wearing a necktie or be socially presentable after such a meal.

    I would make an exception to my aversion to sit-down meal messiness for something like a Louisiana crawfish boil or shrimp boil, but those are not merely lunch-hour-away-from-work meals.


    I'm not a fan of spicy / hot [...] and I try to steer clear of garlic / onion....

    Sufferin' succotash!  No garlic nor onion nor hot peppers!?  You're disqualifying escabeche and even dishes sauteed in butter and wine, e.g., nonMexican shrimp scampi (which typically has garlic and onions), nobly intended as an alternative to having them drowned in thickened tomato sauce.

    Your criteria reject even bland mashed potatoes being enhanced (i.e., given any flavor at all beyond homogenized starch) with garlic and onion (readers shouldn't even think about mixing in any diced mildly-hot green peppers)!?

    So you might look for one of the widely known arroz dishes, i.e., rice, customarily yellow [$], either con camarones, i.e., with shrimp, or con pollo, i.e., with chicken, served most commonly (I think) as a chicken quarter on top of the rice.    Neither dish has a tradition of spiciness; they're broadly Iberian, not Latin-American, per se.  But if there's also an arroz con chorizo, you'd want to skip that one.

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    Note ×: [Hades], yes!  My objection applies--quite  strongly--to southern Eye-talian (d.b.a. Neapolitan) cuisine.  Americanized "pizza" ain't at all the same thing.
     
    Note $: Industrially produced white rice colored during cooking.  Originally via saffron, but not any more: metallic gold is reportedly cheaper per ounce than saffron nowadays.  Expect (healthful) turmeric to be used instead.

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    Re: Suggestions for Mexican Food?
    « Reply #40 on: July 29, 2018, 05:30:55 PM »
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  • and she's not a fan of spicy/hot and messy and she tries to steer clear of garlic/onion and she wants to watch the fat intake as well.

    :facepalm:
    :pray: Make sure you say Grace before the meal!

    Then go ahead and enjoy. :cheers: :jumping2:
    Yeah, I know... I'm such a loser.  :laugh2:
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    Re: Suggestions for Mexican Food?
    « Reply #41 on: July 29, 2018, 06:25:22 PM »
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  • and she's not a fan of spicy/hot and messy and she tries to steer clear of garlic/onion and she wants to watch the fat intake as well.

    :facepalm:
    :pray: Make sure you say Grace before the meal!

    Then go ahead and enjoy. :cheers: :jumping2:
    I have learned to add real cream, real butter, real cheese, and cream cheese to any hot chili dishes. Oil  and dairy help to calm the burning sensation. Water makes the experience worse.
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    Re: Suggestions for Mexican Food?
    « Reply #42 on: July 29, 2018, 11:06:11 PM »
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  • ceviche?

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    Ceviche Health Risks/Re: Suggestions for Mexican Food?
    « Reply #43 on: July 30, 2018, 05:00:43 PM »
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  • ceviche?

    At least a few words of explanation are called for, especially whenever suggesting a dish with a foreign name, don't you think?

    •  Ceviche is distinctive for being "cooked" only, in effect, by chemical action caused by its acidic marinade/pickling; it's never cooked by heat (not even briefly).  Alas, the heatless preparation peculiar to this dish exposes humans to genuine health risks.

    I've originated a new topic "Ceviche and escabeche" for discussing those risks, in the CathInfo subforum in which it plainly belongs: "Health and Nutrition".  <https://www.cathinfo.com/health-and-nutrition/ceviche-and-escabeche/> (q.v.).

    Of course, regardless of whatever you order, you're vulnerable to any improper handling in the chain of custody from the raw suppliers to the restaurant, and from any unsanitary habits of restaurant staff.  The latter, I've read somewhere, can be rather reliably judged from the condition of the rest-rooms.

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    Re: Suggestions for Mexican Food?
    « Reply #44 on: July 30, 2018, 10:33:04 PM »
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