Author Topic: Subliminal Messages in modern and children's music (Read 7647 times)

amariec · « **on:** March 07, 2010, 05:48:40 PM »

I have seen a numerous videos and read some articles on this subject. The songs depict satanic statements and chants when played in reverse. The artists include Lil' Wayne, Madonna, Lady Gaga, The Jonas Brothers, Miley Cirus, The Barney theme song, and even speeches by Barack Obama.

When played in reverse the songs includes phrases such as "we speak for satan", and the Barack Obama famous statement "yes we can" reverse says "Thank you Satan." I find this very creepy and haunting. Has anyone else seen these videos or heard about this. Give your feedback.

roscoe · « **Reply #1 on:** March 07, 2010, 06:15:25 PM »

There is no need to play the 'music' of these 'artists' in reverse to determne the demonic character.

I have never placed much faith in Oates either. :whistleblower:

Vladimir · « **Reply #2 on:** March 07, 2010, 08:38:49 PM »

I believe that the song Stairway to Heaven says 666 and Satan various times when played backwards as well.

Some of the songs that people accuse of having subliminal messages sound iffy at best when played backwards.

As roscoe said though, even when played normally they still are a bit unsettling to me. I made a thread about the song "Hotel California" a while ago. That song is creepy.

Do you have more information on the Jonas Brothers, Miley Cyrus and other people aiming at children for their audience?

EDIT:

The practice of putting messages into music isn't new at all. There's symbolism and hidden messages in music even from the Baroque era. There have been volumes written on the symbolism in Bach's music. Mozart put Freemasonic themes in Die Zauberflote. So I guess that this practice is rather ancient. Although I don't think that they have been inspired by Satan since the composer actually intended to write them in. There is no way that you can intend to have something say something forwards and say something backwards that makes sense.

amariec · « **Reply #3 on:** March 07, 2010, 11:50:50 PM »

I actually found some of the videos on Youtube. I would prefer not to re-visit the site and listen to it again to give u details. But if you type in "Jonas brothers subliminal message or satanic message" it will come up. Same for Hannah Montanna and Barney. It appalled me when i saw these videos because i adored Barney growing up, and my younger sister is a huge fan of Miley Cirus and the Jonas Brothers.

Vladimir · « **Reply #4 on:** March 08, 2010, 06:40:32 AM »

That's perfectly fine. I probably wouldn't listen to them again either.

Catholic Samurai · « **Reply #5 on:** March 09, 2010, 05:49:20 PM »

Quote from: Vladimir

There is no way that you can intend to have something say something forwards and say something backwards that makes sense.

Actually, I read a certain musician some time ago back-masked a message into one of his songs and it said "If your playing this backwards, then you must have a lot of time on your hands". So yes it is possible... difficult, but possible. I wish I could remember who did that song though.

amariec · « **Reply #6 on:** March 10, 2010, 05:19:01 PM »

Aleister Crowley who a famous satanist among many other things had a large influence on many musicians, such as the beatles and jay-z to list a few. however, he introduced the idea of putting these evil messages into music to introduce them into the subconscious mind.

Catholic Samurai · « **Reply #7 on:** March 10, 2010, 05:35:47 PM »

Quote from: amariec

Aleister Crowley who a famous satanist among many other things had a large influence on many musicians, such as the beatles and jay-z to list a few. however, he introduced the idea of putting these evil messages into music to introduce them into the subconscious mind.

Which is why backmasking should be taken seriously. crowley was a satanic genius, not your typical satanist. After all he's the founder of the French Gnostic Catholic Church.

amariec · « **Reply #8 on:** March 10, 2010, 07:07:21 PM »

Quote from: Catholic Samurai

Which is why backmasking should be taken seriously. crowley was a satanic genius, not your typical satanist. After all he's the founder of the French Gnostic Catholic Church.

This is exactly why I am truly concerned when there are so many people who have no idea what they may be listening to. My sisters love The Jonas Brothers and Miley Cirus, which were two artists who have music that includes this technique.

As i also mentioned before, there have been SEVERAL discoveries of Obama using this in more than one of his speeches and in the "yes we can" music video.

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #9 on:** March 10, 2010, 08:04:52 PM »

Quote from: amariec

I am truly concerned when there are so many people who have no idea what they may be listening to.

What is more, music touches the emotions directly. Many who get hooked on this or that disordered music are quite nasty about it if you try to explain anything, however calmly and rationally you proceed.

parentsfortruth · « **Reply #10 on:** December 18, 2010, 09:11:35 AM »

I think I may have posted this before, but I think it's worth it to watch these series.

First, this one at:

http://www.theindustryexposed.com

and:

The Music Industry Exposed. The one here was made by muslims, but it has a lot of good information in it about the artists, especially Jay-Z and others.

Roman Catholic · « **Reply #11 on:** December 18, 2010, 10:19:13 AM »

bobbobbobbob said blahblahblahblah, but Led Z were sicko perverts.

This is just one little part of the story on them...

Led Zeppelin's ...album, Houses of the Holy, was released in 1973.

The orange album cover of Houses of the Holy depicts images of nude children climbing up the Giant's Causeway (in County Antrim, Northern Ireland). Although the children are not depicted from the front, this was controversial at the time of the album's release, and in some areas, such as the "Bible Belt" and Spain, the record was banned.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Led_Zeppelin

roscoe · « **Reply #12 on:** December 18, 2010, 11:38:36 AM »

Obomba has Jay-Zee and Lil Wayne in his rotation( satanic rappers). No need for the alleged backmasking or subliminals here.

Vladimir · « **Reply #13 on:** December 18, 2010, 11:53:45 PM »

Quote from: bobbobbobbob

I believe that the song Stairway to Heaven says 666 and Satan various times when played backwards as well.
-Vladimir

Stairway To Heaven backwards have satanic messaging? Every time I hear that I feel its possibly the dumbest thing I ever heard. You people who go around saying "Yeah, I think these artists (typically rock and roll - do I sense prejudice?) are satanists" are real hypocrites. You never even met the eople and your judging them. Have you ever listened to Stairway to Heaven going forward? Well let me tell you its a very positive song. You people going around looking for evil and find it only where you want to find it. I bet I could play a recording of some of your average church choir and organ music backwards and find satanic messaging in it. What matters is the songs forward. I'm a Christian and I KNOW that I've had a more intimate and spiritual experience during a guitar solo by jimmy page or jerry garcia than I ever had with the average plastic coated church songs. Yeah, a lot of the rock stars had sex and did drugs. But they didn't ever kill anyone or seriously hurt anyone. Most Christians treat sex and drugs as if they are 1000 times more evil than killing. And, if evil at all, then they are 1000 times less evil thhan any type of violence or even just treating others wrong. And treating others wrong is exactly what you're doing by judging all these people and their God-given artistic skill. Their music I know has helped more kids than extremist Christian's fire and brimstone, "God is gonna send all you rotten kids to hell," and "the devil is possesing everyone" rnts and raves. God is a merciful and loving God and doesn't want to send anyone to hell. The Prodigal Son is the most powerful and arguably one of the most important parts of the Bible. The other most important is that Jesus died for our sins, again showing God's mercy. And its the same merciful and loving God that created all people. So for you people to go around assuming that an entire group of people (ie rock and roll artists) are trying to get kids to worship the devil is just ridiculous. I heard somewhere a little while ago someone responded to some article online the following quote: "There's nothing wrong with Christianity, but there is something wrong with a lot of Christians." I completely agree, that Christianity (in its raw form right from Jesus, not the now possibly and probably corrupt new teachings that have been made by humans who by nature sin, especially when in power to influence many others) is very good. But saying that there is something wrong with a lot of Christians is a legitimate argument. Although I don't know that I'd completely agree, because I don'tlike to judge people, but I do agree and will judge the actions of a lot of Christians. Many Christians are the most judgemental people I ever met. They think they are so righteous and anyone who doesn't follow exactly what their told is a horrible, lower than life thing. This is completely against what Jesus taught. And this is the kind of thing that gives Christianity an (unfairly gained, to the religion itself) bad reputation, judging others. Just because people don't believe exactly what those in power try to shove into their brains and hearts doesn't make them bad or satanists. On the contrary, people that try to find their own way spiritually are truly stronger in faith than those who listen constantly to humans in power and not to Jesus himself. These views are coming from a Christian, who may not be the best Christian in many of your judgemental eyes, but as far as when I pray during the day everyday, seems to be in a pretty good relationship with Jesus.
And anyway, back to the Stairway thing check out this website I found, The guy who wrote this was a good inspiration: http://www.sunsetwestproductions.com/forever/stairway.htm
And sorry to rant and rave so long, But the whole backmasking gets me very worked up, especially hen its about a very talented and artistic group such as Led Zeppelin.

I've listened to the song forwards. From a musical perspective, it isn't entirely bad - the lyrics however, are cryptic and creepy. I can't really find any inspiring meaning in it.

roscoe · « **Reply #14 on:** December 19, 2010, 12:36:32 AM »

In case no one has heard, Stairway To ( allegedly) Heaven is new words based upon the chord sequence of Theme Form Gilligans Island. :smoke-pot:

Author Topic: Subliminal Messages in modern and children&#039;s music (Read 7647 times)

Author Topic: Subliminal Messages in modern and children's music (Read 7647 times)