Author Topic: Subliminal Messages in modern and children's music (Read 7649 times)

roscoe · « **Reply #30 on:** December 21, 2010, 08:57:00 PM »

I heard it myself and it was not the version you linked to. It's easy enough to find the sheet music to the tunes if you can't hear it.

Eleanor by the Turtles is a new melody over the Happy Together chords. Try singing one to the other. Page may heave made a change or 2 but that is where the chord seq comes from. Charles Parker's Ornithology is another one. it was on the chords of How High The Moon.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #31 on:** December 22, 2010, 12:03:29 PM »

1.- bob, you say that paganism is the only false religion that is evil. But when the Bible says that gods of the pagans are devils, it isn't just talking about the pagans. The Bible is refering to all of those religions. Buddhism, Hinduism, the Islam and Muslim religions, etc. God is not behind those religions. You saying He is makes no sense. Why would God endorse a religion that doesn't even profess Him as the Creator? Fact is, the devil created every single one of those religions. The devil always adds a small fraction of truth to everything to have people fooled. So when such a religion "tells people to do good" that is the devil's trap that so many people fall into. If you asked an SSPX priest about his thoughts on the subject, I think he would agree with what I just said.

2.- If you don't think Luther was insane, then perhaps you should read his writtings. This is a disturbing subject so I'm not going to go into full details, but Luther was obssessed not only with the devil, but with the bathroom. He talked about the bathroom incessantly in many of his writtings. He also declared the Pope the Anti-Christ, and Luther had numerous visions of the devil. That right there is the definition of insanity. Don't think what I just said is true? Look it up. You'll see it's true. And no, he shouldn't have tried to fix any abuses in the Church, because there were very few of them at the time. He didn't break away because of abuses, he broke away because he thought his viewpoints were better.

3.- That Roman Catholic priest who was into rock music was probably an NO priest. And as you will soon learn during your stay here, no one here likes the Novus Ordo Mass (or NO for short). We all prefer the Traditional Latin Mass.

4.- Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ IS evil. Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ is basically devil worship.

Belloc · « **Reply #32 on:** December 22, 2010, 01:56:42 PM »

Quote from: bobbobbobbob

4. Like I've said, I really don't know much about Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ to have strong feelings about it. I have only skimmed through a few general things about it, but I havent read up enough to actually try to argue for or against it.

:scratchchin: shouldnt a Catholic know more about it then that?

you seem to have a lot of opinions on other things....

(is this what happens when FE forum is down??

)

Belloc · « **Reply #33 on:** December 22, 2010, 01:57:38 PM »

Quote from: SpiritusSanctus

1.- bob, you say that paganism is the only false religion that is evil. But when the Bible says that gods of the pagans are devils, it isn't just talking about the pagans. The Bible is refering to all of those religions. Buddhism, Hinduism, the Islam and Muslim religions, etc. God is not behind those religions. You saying He is makes no sense. Why would God endorse a religion that doesn't even profess Him as the Creator? Fact is, the devil created every single one of those religions. The devil always adds a small fraction of truth to everything to have people fooled. So when such a religion "tells people to do good" that is the devil's trap that so many people fall into. If you asked an SSPX priest about his thoughts on the subject, I think he would agree with what I just said.

2.- If you don't think Luther was insane, then perhaps you should read his writtings. This is a disturbing subject so I'm not going to go into full details, but Luther was obssessed not only with the devil, but with the bathroom. He talked about the bathroom incessantly in many of his writtings. He also declared the Pope the Anti-Christ, and Luther had numerous visions of the devil. That right there is the definition of insanity. Don't think what I just said is true? Look it up. You'll see it's true. And no, he shouldn't have tried to fix any abuses in the Church, because there were very few of them at the time. He didn't break away because of abuses, he broke away because he thought his viewpoints were better.

3.- That Roman Catholic priest who was into rock music was probably an NO priest. And as you will soon learn during your stay here, no one here likes the Novus Ordo Mass (or NO for short). We all prefer the Traditional Latin Mass.

4.- Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ IS evil. Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ is basically devil worship.

:cheers:

Belloc · « **Reply #34 on:** December 22, 2010, 01:59:50 PM »

Quote from: GregorianChat

If it weren't for the crusades, we would all be speaking Arabic, pounding our heads and shouting for Allah!

well put, it was Catholics, mostly on our own, that defended Europe, the Med, Balkins,etc.etc....

Belloc · « **Reply #35 on:** December 22, 2010, 02:03:18 PM »

Quote from: bobbobbobbob

And btw No I Know the Stones are not satanists, and most of the world I think would agree.

well that settles it-since you and he world agree and all

Is it beyond comprehension for you to think that the :devil2: moslty works quietly, as do his servants? So, only evil you see is blatent then? its either "good" or "in your face"...??

why is it then, that Fr. Corapi personally knew and saw rock groups do occult worship and dedicated their albums to :devil2:??

he talks a lot on the subtly of :devil2:, you may want to listen to him and Bishop Sheen, whom Corapi takes a lot of his style from........

Belloc · « **Reply #36 on:** December 22, 2010, 02:06:51 PM »

Quote from: bobbobbobbob

Zeppelin song .

really, not into occult? Here are a few good sites that refute that:

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/Rock-n-Roll/led_zeppelin.htm

http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1957.cfm

http://www.illuminati-news.com/art-and-mc/lucifer-rising.htm

Belloc · « **Reply #37 on:** December 22, 2010, 02:08:50 PM »

Quote from: bobbobbobbob

The Stones, Who, Zep, Hendrix, Doors, and Eagles... man I have to defend everybody.

um, why is it up to you to defend the Worlds music?
I noticed to you had to add the disclaimer about how and how much you pray.....nice touch!!.....based on your posts, not imrpessed,either......

Belloc · « **Reply #38 on:** December 22, 2010, 02:10:35 PM »

Quote from: bobbobbobbob

I believe that the song Stairway to Heaven says 666 and Satan various times when played backwards as well.
-Vladimir

Stairway To Heaven backwards have satanic messaging? Every time I hear that I feel its possibly the dumbest thing I ever heard. You people who go around saying "Yeah, I think these artists (typically rock and roll - do I sense prejudice?) are satanists" are real hypocrites. You never even met the eople and your judging them. Have you ever listened to Stairway to Heaven going forward? Well let me tell you its a very positive song. You people going around looking for evil and find it only where you want to find it. I bet I could play a recording of some of your average church choir and organ music backwards and find satanic messaging in it. What matters is the songs forward. I'm a Christian and I KNOW that I've had a more intimate and spiritual experience during a guitar solo by jimmy page or jerry garcia than I ever had with the average plastic coated church songs. Yeah, a lot of the rock stars had sex and did drugs. But they didn't ever kill anyone or seriously hurt anyone. Most Christians treat sex and drugs as if they are 1000 times more evil than killing. And, if evil at all, then they are 1000 times less evil thhan any type of violence or even just treating others wrong. And treating others wrong is exactly what you're doing by judging all these people and their God-given artistic skill. Their music I know has helped more kids than extremist Christian's fire and brimstone, "God is gonna send all you rotten kids to hell," and "the devil is possesing everyone" rnts and raves. God is a merciful and loving God and doesn't want to send anyone to hell. The Prodigal Son is the most powerful and arguably one of the most important parts of the Bible. The other most important is that Jesus died for our sins, again showing God's mercy. And its the same merciful and loving God that created all people. So for you people to go around assuming that an entire group of people (ie rock and roll artists) are trying to get kids to worship the devil is just ridiculous. I heard somewhere a little while ago someone responded to some article online the following quote: "There's nothing wrong with Christianity, but there is something wrong with a lot of Christians." I completely agree, that Christianity (in its raw form right from Jesus, not the now possibly and probably corrupt new teachings that have been made by humans who by nature sin, especially when in power to influence many others) is very good. But saying that there is something wrong with a lot of Christians is a legitimate argument. Although I don't know that I'd completely agree, because I don'tlike to judge people, but I do agree and will judge the actions of a lot of Christians. Many Christians are the most judgemental people I ever met. They think they are so righteous and anyone who doesn't follow exactly what their told is a horrible, lower than life thing. This is completely against what Jesus taught. And this is the kind of thing that gives Christianity an (unfairly gained, to the religion itself) bad reputation, judging others. Just because people don't believe exactly what those in power try to shove into their brains and hearts doesn't make them bad or satanists. On the contrary, people that try to find their own way spiritually are truly stronger in faith than those who listen constantly to humans in power and not to Jesus himself. These views are coming from a Christian, who may not be the best Christian in many of your judgemental eyes, but as far as when I pray during the day everyday, seems to be in a pretty good relationship with Jesus.
And anyway, back to the Stairway thing check out this website I found, The guy who wrote this was a good inspiration: http://www.sunsetwestproductions.com/forever/stairway.htm
And sorry to rant and rave so long, But the whole backmasking gets me very worked up, especially hen its about a very talented and artistic group such as Led Zeppelin.

after this thread laid dormant since March 2010, here you come to educate us all... :scratchchin: :scratchchin:

that has been happening a lot lately.....old threads dug up to attack and defend worldly issues......
Bob-are you a former CAF or FE poster??

Belloc · « **Reply #39 on:** December 22, 2010, 02:12:49 PM »

Quote from: bobbobbobbob

Mr Roman Catholic Guy, you are doing exactly what Jesus said not to do.

ah-so predictable, using "Jesus is a nice guy that told us all to loooove each other and do good" approach......but you did not address RC's post about the nude children,etc........not at all....though admittedly, your long drawn out posts defending the World may have fried me a bit......

Belloc · « **Reply #40 on:** December 22, 2010, 02:13:42 PM »

Quote from: bobbobbobbob

roscoe,
hahahahahahahahahahahaha!
My Man!

Roscoe, you have a fan and ally against the anti-Pot "Jansenists"

, oh, this is so

:sad: :barf:

Belloc · « **Reply #41 on:** December 22, 2010, 02:14:54 PM »

Quote from: Roman Catholic

Quote from: bobbobbobbob

I'm not trying to attack people...

Before you Judge people, DON'T

Have you read your posts?

true, he is judging us-and wonder if he "judges" people before he invites them into his home, around his family, into his life,etc....or does he wander the streets with a big "victim" sign on him??

Belloc · « **Reply #42 on:** December 22, 2010, 02:16:31 PM »

Quote from: parentsfortruth

It's entirely tragic how, when people bring attention to music, some people get so defensive. Where does this come from?

Some people here have done some research on the music, and so, to say we're "judging" is inaccurate.

It's entirely idiotic to accuse someone of "judging" someone else when that person is likely discerning through their conscience and what they already know to be bad.

If I saw a Satanist dressed in all Gothic clothes, with a pentagram around his neck and 666 on the back of his t-shirt, and a goathead on the front of his shirt, WHAT DO YOU THINK I'M GOING TO ASSUME?

"Oh but YOU can't 'JUDGE' him because you don't 'KNOW' him."

If it smells like a duck, and quacks like a duck, guess what? It's probably a DUCK!

This world, aptly said by vigilant citizen, is ruled by symbols, and meanings masked. Well, if you choose NOT to pay attention to those things, you're allowing your mind to be fed things that you don't even realize it's being fed, and if you have no problem with that, continue on your merry little way, but wise people say that you're wrong, and you're affecting your subconscious, stupidly.

All I gotta say is-- "You've been warned."

http://vigilantcitizen.com

well stated and to your first question about why touchy about music, maybe Bob is Right Brained...

that said, some are touchy when their idols are attacked ( :devil2: )

Belloc · « **Reply #43 on:** December 22, 2010, 02:19:07 PM »

Quote from: trad123

The selling of indulgences was rightly condemned, but Luther was not excommunicated because of he was a threat to the Church's power, but because he was an obstinate heretic.

Bob sounds like my dad-quick to blame the RCC for Luther and the Prot Revolt....Dad beleives whatever anti-Catholic pablem is promoted on the History Channel, too....

Belloc · « **Reply #44 on:** December 22, 2010, 02:20:49 PM »

Quote from: Belloc

Quote from: bobbobbobbob
Mr Roman Catholic Guy, you are doing exactly what Jesus said not to do.

ah-so predictable, using "Jesus is a nice guy that told us all to loooove each other and do good" approach......but you did not address RC's post about the nude children,etc........not at all....though admittedly, your long drawn out posts defending the World may have fried me a bit......

read the Bible Bob, esp OT-Christ is, was and always will be a DIVINE WARRIOR-not a long haired peacenik ala 60's

Author Topic: Subliminal Messages in modern and children&#039;s music (Read 7649 times)

Author Topic: Subliminal Messages in modern and children's music (Read 7649 times)