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« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2007, 11:28:56 PM »
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  • Can you translate? What's going on in the pics?

    Looks like a good photo op if nothing else.  :smirk:
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    « Reply #2 on: October 22, 2007, 08:38:57 AM »
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  • No habla espanol.  But I have never seen a roof in such bad shape as the one they replaced.  Most of the pics are self explanatory as you go, though I don't know what they were mixing cement for.
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    « Reply #3 on: October 22, 2007, 10:21:52 AM »
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  • I'll try to translate some of the captions for you guys later.  If I forget (which is rather likely), feel free to send me a few (friendly) reminders through the private messaging system.
    "In this difficult time, to be victorious, we must be steadfast using all of our strength and capabilities like brave soldiers fully armed in the battlefield ... Whatever happens, behave in such a way that God will be glorified."

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    « Reply #4 on: October 22, 2007, 10:45:39 AM »
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  • looks to me like he is trying to help them clean up their town. By building better houses. He has an awesome conversion story.
         
     
     
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    « Reply #5 on: October 22, 2007, 10:52:45 AM »
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  • You waste your breathe Lady, these people want to see what they want. This man gave up his lucrative Hollywood career and millions to serve the poor in Mexico, building homes and doing whatever he can to fight what havoc the Masons have caused for those people.
    His next movie is to be about Blessed Miguel Pro. But, maybe because he is so handsome he can not be given the benefit of the doubt? I heard him on Catholic radio publicly say MEA CULPA for all of the people he led astray by his former movies and "Hunk-type" photo ops. But, he is a cheesy opportunist and that is that and nothing you can do can make snide people accept their own errors. Stay away from a hateful sight like this it will lead you to sin. They are fresh, rude and arrogant and like to look down their noses at anyone.

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    « Reply #6 on: October 22, 2007, 12:12:33 PM »
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  • Quote from: Dawn
    His next movie is to be about Blessed Miguel Pro.


    I hadn't heard about this.  Could you provide me with some more information?
    "In this difficult time, to be victorious, we must be steadfast using all of our strength and capabilities like brave soldiers fully armed in the battlefield ... Whatever happens, behave in such a way that God will be glorified."

    -Saint Andrew Kim

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    « Reply #7 on: October 22, 2007, 12:33:40 PM »
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    You waste your breathe Lady, these people want to see what they want. This man gave up his lucrative Hollywood career and millions to serve the poor in Mexico, building homes and doing whatever he can to fight what havoc the Masons have caused for those people.
    His next movie is to be about Blessed Miguel Pro. But, maybe because he is so handsome he can not be given the benefit of the doubt? I heard him on Catholic radio publicly say MEA CULPA for all of the people he led astray by his former movies and "Hunk-type" photo ops. But, he is a cheesy opportunist and that is that and nothing you can do can make snide people accept their own errors. Stay away from a hateful sight like this it will lead you to sin. They are fresh, rude and arrogant and like to look down their noses at anyone.


    I didn't say that the movie is all bad, or that it won't be a good influence on many people.

    I agree that the people watching Hollywood movies (and not going to church) can use any good influence they can get, even if it isn't objectively speaking "the best" or "without any bad side".

    But most of all, I won't pass judgement on this movie until it comes out -- I haven't seen it. I have no idea what good or bad things are in the movie. I just know that there are some good things about it (which you have posted here) such as the actors' private lives, etc.

    We'll have to wait, pray, and hope that many souls are converted.

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    « Reply #8 on: October 22, 2007, 01:25:19 PM »
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    I hadn't heard about this.  Could you provide me with some more information?


    Dawn has left the forum in disgust.

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    I didn't say that the movie is all bad, or that it won't be a good influence on many people.


    Uh...yes you did Chant.  You inferred that it would be bad for the majority of people, and only incidentally good for the occasional one.  You are like Peter refusing the stuff God offered because he had always kept himself pure from that.  As for things only being naturally good, Who made natural goodness?  

    One good thing came from these threads on Bella.  I finally recognized why no one here can be moved to DO anything.  You are so embattled, holding tight to tradition, keeping the pure faith alive, that you can't use it to good effect for God and neighbor.  You are like misers afraid to spend yourselves.  Jesus said, "Go forth" to all his apostles and if you are confirmed, you are an apostle.  So ditch the survivalism and "Go forth."
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    « Reply #9 on: October 22, 2007, 01:32:38 PM »
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  • "Go forth!" -- that sounds good as it is written. In fact, it sounds SO good that I actually agree with it.

    The real question is -- "Go forth and do what exactly?"

    I must use the virtue of Prudence to discern what I should be spending my time doing.  Right now I'm "spending myself" on my family -- including 2 children under 2 -- and I'll tell you, there's not much of "me" left over. My kids can't do anything for themselves yet. Then there's taking care of the yard, the house, etc. In short, I'm kept pretty busy with my duty of state, which is the way that we are supposed to save our souls. Not very glamorous, but it's true -- the best penance is to do one's duty of state perfectly. God's will for me is to be a good father and husband. Converting souls to the faith is glorious, beautiful, and certainly appeals to me -- but I can't pursue that at the expense of my family. To do so would actually be sinful, and a demonic deception.

    A cloistered monk should not feel troubled that he can't go out and convert people. But his prayers and labors are ANYTHING BUT fruitless. Same goes for a busy father of a family. He can't go out (mormon-style) door to door spreading the faith. But he CAN be a good example to everyone he meets, make sure he is well educated in the Faith so he can answer people's questions, etc.

    And as time permits, I try to "build up the Church" in my own area by helping out at my local TLM chapel.

    I don't spend any time on "survivalism". I bought a few canned goods at SAM's club, and they sit there in the pantry. I don't have time or money to practice shooting, put up solar panels, etc. I don't have any land for water storage barrels, etc. And my city "garden" would be lucky to provide one man with snacks -- let alone enough to feed a family of 4.

    That said, I am always on the lookout for concrete ways to do good, especially for souls. But I have to pick things that don't take a lot of time and/or can be done from home. Lastly, I need to pick activities that suit the talents God gave me. For instance, I am unable to build houses, but I can teach people. "Instruct the ignorant", "Counsel the doubtful", "Comfort the sorrowful" are just as important as "Feed the hungry", etc.

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    « Reply #10 on: October 22, 2007, 01:35:21 PM »
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  • I asked for the story behind these photos and am still uncertain as to what the answer is. Do we know that this actor has given his life to helping the poor? ...spreading the Faith? If that is the case, these few photos do not do justice in depicting his life.

    On the other hand, I've been to poor villages in Mexico myself and have just as many pictures to show for it. What I've done was hardly live-changing and certainly not soul-saving for those we helped.
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    « Reply #11 on: October 22, 2007, 03:25:24 PM »
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  • Man, I actually pricked you into listing some of your missionary work.  This is progress, esp. after a year's worth of silence.  I'll grant you your duties to family come first, for a man or woman who doesn't take care of his family is worse than a heathen.  

    But you have a voice.  You have a pocket book vote.  Use them vote no to evil and yes to good.  Straight theology isn't very useful in the saving of souls.  But putting evil movie stars out of business and publicly raising up the saints as an example of what we want, can be done in your spare time.
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    « Reply #12 on: October 22, 2007, 03:38:41 PM »
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  • Well, Hollywood hasn't gotten a dime out of me for a long time -- for that matter, I don't buy any "licensed merchandise" whether it be children's toys, clothing, or other products. I don't want to pay 25% more because there's some silly logo or cartoon character stamped on it. That's like tithing to Disney or something.

    I don't even buy much brand-name food, unless we have coupons, it's on sale, etc. We often buy the "store brand" because it CAN BE just as good (depends on the item) and you know you're not supporting non-Catholic (or anti-Catholic) periodicals like Parents magazine, Time magazine, etc. where those name-brands advertise.

    I "opt out" of the whole consumerist/materialist culture.

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    « Reply #13 on: October 22, 2007, 06:17:09 PM »
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  • But does Hollywood know that?  And do other people know to do that?  One person can do something, one plus people can make a big difference.  But you gotta let them know what hit them and why.
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    « Reply #14 on: October 22, 2007, 06:28:59 PM »
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  • Here's my very quick, rough and sometimes less than literal translation of this text.  Hopefully it is accurate enough for your liking!

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    Fue curioso ver desde el primer día que a nadie le incomodaba el hecho de que no hubiera agua ( había un sólo pozo para todo el pueblo ), no había luz, había que dormir en el piso y había que soportar un calor al que cuesta acostumbrarse. Por el contrario nunca hubo un comentario negativo al respecto. Para la mayoría eran sus primeras misiones y desde el primer día se estaban entregando de lleno.


    It was curious to see that since the first day that nobody was inconvenienced by the lack of water (there was only one well for the entire village), there wasn't any light, the only place to sleep was on the ground, and the heat had to tolerated until one could become accustomed to it.  On contrary, there wasn't a single complaint in this regard (about the hardships).  For the majority, this was their first mission, and they were devoting themselves fully since the very first day.

    Hopefully that makes some sense.  To other Spanish speakers, please excuse the roughness of the translation, but I hope this works for everyone else.  If there other (brief) passages, let me know.
    "In this difficult time, to be victorious, we must be steadfast using all of our strength and capabilities like brave soldiers fully armed in the battlefield ... Whatever happens, behave in such a way that God will be glorified."

    -Saint Andrew Kim

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