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Offline Geremia

Re: St. Thomas on the Causality of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2017, 09:30:44 PM »
Quote from: Marlelar on August 11, 2017, 02:34:04 PM
their status as victims of abuse would be an explanation for their unnatural inclinations, I don't think it is a valid excuse for their ongoing actions because there is a difference between being able to explain an action and excusing it.

Another example would be a boy who sees his father regularly beating his mother and then grows up to be a wife beater himself.  His childhood experience would explain his actions as an adult, but it does not excuse it.
well said
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Offline Geremia

Re: St. Thomas on the Causality of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2017, 09:38:25 PM »
Quote from: Joe73 on August 11, 2017, 12:37:20 AM
What I meant is that they shouldn't feel ashamed for having the feelings.
If they are entertaining these feelings, holding onto them, they should be ashamed.
If they are being tempted, while not placing themselves into temptation, they must fight.
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Offline DZ PLEASE

Re: St. Thomas on the Causality of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity
« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2017, 09:46:06 PM »
… and if we fight a sinful inclination,  toying with sinful occasion being no fight at all, then we are exercising virtue.

Can't go too light with the carrot if you're swinging the stick.
Quote from: Geremia on August 21, 2017, 09:38:25 PM
If they are entertaining these feelings, holding onto them, they should be ashamed.
If they are being tempted, while not placing themselves into temptation, they must fight.
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Offline MaterDolorosa

Re: St. Thomas on the Causality of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity
« Reply #13 on: August 25, 2017, 07:53:43 PM »
Of course, it is possible to have evil desires. If our desires are evil then the remedy is penance and conversion. If you don't eradicate the cause of the desire, which is sin, it will become your master. And of course it is blasphemy to suggest that God could create someone as a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ. That's like saying God created a psychopath to be a psychopath. 
Really, its not so much about saying that God created them that way as denying the Creater himself, since 'male and female He created them".
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Offline harris

Re: St. Thomas on the Causality of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity
« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2017, 01:11:16 PM »
To me the greatest help is - the moment we have a "feeling" that if acted upon could lead us into sin, we should pray and confess our weakness and possibly our sin if that is the case.  Our Lord and our Lady will ALWAYS help us.  Peace will be restored to our soul and we will be able to move beyond our feelings.  I've done this many times, as I'm sure you all have too.  
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