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Author Topic: St. Thomas Aquinas Was Not for Enslaving Jews  (Read 3706 times)

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Offline rum

Re: St. Thomas Aquinas Was Not for Enslaving Jews
« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2018, 04:13:57 AM »
Enslaving another human being is evil.
Not according to Catholics of ages past.

I don't buy the argument that slavery is immoral. It's immorality hinges on who is being enslaved. Remember, prisoners with life sentences are slaves and no one bats an eyelash.

Re: St. Thomas Aquinas Was Not for Enslaving Jews
« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2018, 05:08:00 AM »
But enslaving an entire religion of people (Jews) is just fine?


Re: St. Thomas Aquinas Was Not for Enslaving Jews
« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2018, 10:11:20 AM »
Not according to Catholics of ages past.

I don't buy the argument that slavery is immoral. It's immorality hinges on who is being enslaved. Remember, prisoners with life sentences are slaves and no one bats an eyelash.
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Slavery as such isn't immoral, if we understand it merely as the compelled servitude of one toward another.  "Indentured servitude" is really probably a more precise term, distinguishing it from chattel.  I'm not so sure one can find any support for the morality of chattel slavery.
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The two docuмents you referenced are not supportive of chattel.  From what I've been able to find, they are not papally sanctioned raids for a slave trade but rather permissions to enslave those infidels whom the Portuguese were driving from their lands (Both docuмents are letters written to Alfonso V of Portugal from Pope Nicholas V).  Which of course has always been a fairly usual practice among nations, and not one the Church has ever condemned. 
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As far as the Jews go, I think the usual measure taken by princes was simply to expel them or force them to identify themselves.  I'm not so sure slavery would even have occurred to such princes as an especially wise idea, since Jews were known to corrupt Catholics.  Would a Lord really want his Lady waited on by Jews?  When the Jews proved troublesome, as they usually did, segregation-- not servitude-- was the remedy. 

Offline rum

Re: St. Thomas Aquinas Was Not for Enslaving Jews
« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2018, 01:27:33 PM »
Not a very useful remedy, but better than nothing.

Enslaving people doesn't require that they live in your home. Not that I think enslaving Jews is the ideal solution to the Jєωιѕн problem.

Hey, I was just browsing your forum and see that you still use the Kenneth Branagh avatar you've had since FE. You'd think you'd want an avatar not including an overt Jew (Ian Holm) and a crypto (Branagh). Yes, they're playing Shakespearean characters, but it's still a bit off.

Re: St. Thomas Aquinas Was Not for Enslaving Jews
« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2018, 02:40:10 PM »
Think of it as me appropriating them into my servitude.