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Offline sebo3e

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I have an question about using our lord name
« on: December 30, 2019, 11:36:45 AM »
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  • Well yeah i have an question about using our lord name

    For example how much can we use Hevenly father word with (G)
    to respect him because i learned that we shouldnt misuse his name for example its very bad to mention his name to much times or even saying he told me this and that and the words was full of arrogance right when someone use his name in anger rude attaking someone by that standard they sin correct?

    Second i have a question about something else

    Is it okay to use Lord or not because i saw in bible and in church we say Lord in bible many times it mentions Lord as well that s why i am confused is that okay when i have trouble or even Hevenly father and his name i can use when i feel that i am calm and with respect as well best to say in prayer to what s more better way

    Do you think its sin to use lord instead his name because i see many times that use to not misuse his name for example even jews have been using it Lord is basically his name in hebrew Adonai
    that  why i am confused

    Imagine this story if someone tells you that he told me how this and that happened and use his name for our actions and action is from anger and saying all bad things offending your reputation then that doesnt come from him even if someone accuse you of having demons our Lord was also called names like that by pahrasies that s why i aded this story of example to ask what do you think?

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    Re: I have an question about using our lord name
    « Reply #1 on: December 30, 2019, 11:57:48 AM »
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  • I see no problem in using the word "God" whenever I am (respectfully, of course) speaking about God.  It is not a word to use in exclamations of surprise or anger as is commonly done.

    In Hebrew, God's name is a word with four consonants but we do not know what vowels go between them so nobody knows how to say it.  The Hebrew language does not normally write vowels; they are passed on in speech.  But the Jews had a custom that the name of God must not be spoken so the knowledge of how to pronounce the name was lost.  They typically use the word "Lord" (Adonai) to replace the name of God.

    We can refer to God in various ways. Anything used in Scripture or in Church should be acceptable as long as we say it respectfully.


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    Re: I have an question about using our lord name
    « Reply #2 on: December 30, 2019, 12:38:09 PM »
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  • Well in Italian, the word for "Lord" is "Signore"... which happens to be the equivalent of "Mr."
    So I don't think that every time an Italian says "Signore" they are referring to God... and thus, they can use the word Signore licitly without having to be reverent every time.
    Also, when discussing pagan "gods" one has to use the word "god", not in a sense of the True God. We better not be reverent when speaking of pagan "gods"!



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    Re: I have an question about using our lord name
    « Reply #3 on: December 30, 2019, 01:56:25 PM »
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  • Well yeah i have an question about using our lord name

    For example how much can we use Hevenly father word with (G)
    to respect him because i learned that we shouldnt misuse his name for example its very bad to mention his name to much times or even saying he told me this and that and the words was full of arrogance right when someone use his name in anger rude attaking someone by that standard they sin correct?

    Second i have a question about something else

    Is it okay to use Lord or not because i saw in bible and in church we say Lord in bible many times it mentions Lord as well that s why i am confused is that okay when i have trouble or even Hevenly father and his name i can use when i feel that i am calm and with respect as well best to say in prayer to what s more better way

    Do you think its sin to use lord instead his name because i see many times that use to not misuse his name for example even jews have been using it Lord is basically his name in hebrew Adonai
    that  why i am confused

    Imagine this story if someone tells you that he told me how this and that happened and use his name for our actions and action is from anger and saying all bad things offending your reputation then that doesnt come from him even if someone accuse you of having demons our Lord was also called names like that by pahrasies that s why i aded this story of example to ask what do you think?
    The Second Commandment says to not take God's name in vain, it does not say we may not speak it at all. And there is an indulgence of 800 days each time the holy name of Jesus is said with reverence.

    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse

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    Re: I have an question about using our lord name
    « Reply #4 on: December 30, 2019, 03:18:55 PM »
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  • I see no problem in using the word "God" whenever I am (respectfully, of course) speaking about God.  It is not a word to use in exclamations of surprise or anger as is commonly done.

    In Hebrew, God's name is a word with four consonants but we do not know what vowels go between them so nobody knows how to say it.  The Hebrew language does not normally write vowels; they are passed on in speech.  But the Jews had a custom that the name of God must not be spoken so the knowledge of how to pronounce the name was lost.  They typically use the word "Lord" (Adonai) to replace the name of God.

    We can refer to God in various ways. Anything used in Scripture or in Church should be acceptable as long as we say it respectfully.

    Thank you for telling me also
    i whould like to ask for example well its okay to use his name respectfull not alot but one time in day because we have to be very carefull how and in what way we use it respectfully to not use it vainly?


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    Re: I have an question about using our lord name
    « Reply #5 on: December 30, 2019, 03:22:45 PM »
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  • The Second Commandment says to not take God's name in vain, it does not say we may not speak it at all. And there is an indulgence of 800 days each time the holy name of Jesus is said with reverence.
    That s very interesting my freind yet as well we have to be carefull in what way we use for example i learned that in anger we use it in vain
    1-Anger
    2-Making wov
    3-broken promise
    4-saying he told me
    5-saying bad things about someone with his name is very dangerous today is practicted alot
    i hope this made sense of course we can use his name yet to not misuse his name is it okay to use Lord afther mention it respectfull way or haevenly father i learned this on other site

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    Re: I have an question about using our lord name
    « Reply #6 on: December 30, 2019, 03:44:19 PM »
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  • i whould like to ask for example well its okay to use his name respectfull not alot but one time in day because we have to be very carefull how and in what way we use it respectfully to not use it vainly?
    I agree that it is wrong to use God's name in vain, but there is no limit to how often we can speak of God properly.  I would expect that people who think about God a lot and who pray a lot also speak of Him a lot.  The mouth expresses what is in the heart.  

    As a mother and grandmother, I am often in the situation of answering children's questions about God.  Or sometimes my husband likes to talk with me about things he has recently heard or read about religion.  These are just natural parts of my state of life in which it is good for me to speak of God.

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    Re: I have an question about using our lord name
    « Reply #7 on: December 30, 2019, 03:57:55 PM »
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  • I agree that it is wrong to use God's name in vain, but there is no limit to how often we can speak of God properly.  I would expect that people who think about God a lot and who pray a lot also speak of Him a lot.  The mouth expresses what is in the heart.  

    As a mother and grandmother, I am often in the situation of answering children's questions about God.  Or sometimes my husband likes to talk with me about things he has recently heard or read about religion.  These are just natural parts of my state of life in which it is good for me to speak of God.
    Thank you for explaining i appreciate it

    also last question

    Is it okay to use Lord or heavenly father since i readed many article where whould use it in that way to just to be safe afther mention it respectfull way its not a sin to say Lord to someone or hevenly father?

    i am confused here

    Also i forgot to ask is it okay to use his name respectfull if someone insult me say cussing word swear then i use his name and say bless you that s okay at proper time with care? its not using his name in vain that way


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    Re: I have an question about using our lord name
    « Reply #8 on: December 30, 2019, 04:36:51 PM »
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  • To me this sounds like a Judaizing vestigate.  Jews even today often write G*d rather than the complete word.  So long as used reverently, there's no limit on invoking God.

    In ancient times, there was this notion that invoking a god by name would give the invoker a certain authority over the god, and so the Jews tried to offset this tendency by never saying the name YAHWEH out loud (but replacing it instead with Adonai).  Now, part of it is that they misunderstood.  God, in giving His name, was essentially saying that He did not have a name, that he was not defined or circuмscribed by His essence (that could be named) but defined by His existence ("I am who am.")  So God cannot be "defined" or circuмscribed by any name ... nor, obviously, controlled by the invocation of a name.  Names define or limit things, designate something for what it is, but God is not anything, but merely is (existence without essence).

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    Re: I have an question about using our lord name
    « Reply #9 on: December 30, 2019, 04:47:31 PM »
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  • To me this sounds like a Judaizing vestigate.  Jews even today often write G*d rather than the complete word.  So long as used reverently, there's no limit on invoking God.

    In ancient times, there was this notion that invoking a god by name would give the invoker a certain authority over the god, and so the Jews tried to offset this tendency by never saying the name YAHWEH out loud (but replacing it instead with Adonai).  Now, part of it is that they misunderstood.  God, in giving His name, was essentially saying that He did not have a name, that he was not defined or circuмscribed by His essence (that could be named) but defined by His existence ("I am who am.")  So God cannot be "defined" or circuмscribed by any name ... nor, obviously, controlled by the invocation of a name.  Names define or limit things, designate something for what it is, but God is not anything, but merely is (existence without essence).
    That s interesting and can we use his name with bless you like when someone insult or swear bad words i learned that in this situation is use that way of blessing with his name instead saying something worse like doing good whu do evil but of course with respect i said only once a day that or when person says that at time when it says?