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Telesphorus · « **Reply #15 on:** August 16, 2011, 06:29:46 PM »

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What dirty talk and what do you mean when you say dirty?

The kind of talk after a 4th grade sex education class? I'm not going to spell it out for you.

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Tell me what dirty things you have heard Catholic children saying.

Oh give me a break - this was a novus ordo school. The talk was filthy from about 5th grade on - rap music by Ton Loc being played on a parents radio during school outings - and I noticed younger and younger children talking that way - I noticed that the corruption was getting worse at younger ages even as a student.

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If you think that chasing girls is wrong then I think you have a problem with prudishness. Could you tell me what about it is wrong? By the way I'm talking about in the playground and not in the class room.

Not a game of tag. Chasing with the idea of a male chasing down a girl.

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I've seen girls and boys chase eachother plenty of times at Church and its perfectly innocent childish behaviour.

I'm sure it can be, but not always.

Children can do some pretty bad things - limits need to be set. That's not prudery. Catholic teachings are never prudery. It's possible for precocious children to commit such sins - and steps should be taken to ensure it doesn't happen. It's not just "playing doctor"

Telesphorus · « **Reply #16 on:** August 16, 2011, 06:34:12 PM »

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that you are not so fond of going through the right channels, i.e. the father

I'm not fond of being told the father makes the decision. Because he doesn't. I'm perfectly willing to talk to a father, and I did. But I'm not going to be told a lunatic father has the right to dictate to me whether or not I can speak to his daughter, because he doesn't. Someday he will realize that, but it will be too late for him.

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though when it comes to understanding the behaviour of children, you are a prude.

Because I think chasing girls could be bad, it's not always innocent? Are you in Europe? Europeans love to get on their high horse about American prudery, but their culture is debauched.

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Can you see what I am saying? On one hand you don't take seriously enough the proper rules of Catholic dating and coutship and on the other you are over proper and prudish with the behaviour of children.

Oh give me a break.

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I may be wrong though to me there is a little inconsistency here.

There's no inconsistency.

Daegus · « **Reply #17 on:** August 16, 2011, 06:51:56 PM »

Speaking of 4th grade sex education.. I was in 4th grade almost 8 years ago and by then I was already being scandalized in my "Catholic" school. They were showing us videos of cartoon people having sex in the name of "sex education". Absolutely ridiculous.

Instead of teaching children the Catholic faith they're teaching children what it looks like for a *censored*. Ridiculous.

Moderator: Daegus -- we get the idea.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #18 on:** August 16, 2011, 06:55:06 PM »

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Speaking of 4th grade sex education.. I was in 4th grade almost 8 years ago and by then I was already being scandalized in my "Catholic" school. They were showing us videos of cartoon people having sex in the name of "sex education". Absolutely ridiculous.

Instead of teaching children the Catholic faith they're teaching children what it looks like for a #### to enter a ####. Ridiculous.

Ours wasn't nearly so bad but it was nevertheless conducive of evils.

Raoul76 · « **Reply #19 on:** August 16, 2011, 07:05:36 PM »

I remember sex education, and they don't just teach about regular sex or "how babies are made," but about all the other kinds of sex forbidden by the Catholic Church. I didn't hear anything about ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity in my day, though.

I know first-hand that sex education teachers from secular schools would be called to give talks at "Catholic" schools, and that they would be lavishly praised there. I would gather, considering the devil has centered his attack there, that the "Catholic" schools are worse than the pagan schools. Even the Catholic schoolgirl outfits are so perverted these days, skirt way above the knees, high socks, pure Lolita-ism. And the heart of darkness is Novus Ordo female volleyball. I still cannot believe the way these girls dress and that this is all sponsored by the "church."

Raoul76 · « **Reply #20 on:** August 16, 2011, 07:11:58 PM »

A thought just hit me -- real Catholic schoolgirl outfits of today are indistinguishable from the costume Catholic schoolgirl outfits sold to perverts at sex shops. Obviously a costume shop wouldn't sell perverts long dresses and baggy blouses.

Something tells me this wasn't a coincidence. But I guess parents don't care as long as their daughters look "cute," they'd rather have their daughters drooled over than have them be considered homely. What ignominy it would be to have a daughter who isn't attractive!

Sigismund · « **Reply #21 on:** August 16, 2011, 07:29:49 PM »

I am not an expert, but I don't think actual Amish prevent boys and girls from playing together as young children.

Raoul76 · « **Reply #22 on:** August 16, 2011, 07:32:02 PM »

What was this thread about again? Sorry, I'll try to bring it back on track. Yeah, the SSPX may go too far in their Amishness, but of course the culture is depraved and the Nous Ordo schools are part of that depraved culture. Here is a picture of the girls from my local Novus Ordo church. Look at the skirts. Each one is carefully trimmed to be above the knees. It's obvious that it is deliberate.

I'm sorry, but wearing pants is better than that. These girls look like they're ready for a night on the town, not for a day in school. This is so sick, it enrages me. Like the people who made the dress code this way don't know what happens? If these girls are playing sports, or doing any activities, if there is a mild wind, they will be giving everyone an eyeful. Every time they sit down, the skirts will ride up. This is just unbelievable to me that an entire community can do this to their children and no one says anything. These are girls that are hitting puberty too, not just little children.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #23 on:** August 16, 2011, 07:33:13 PM »

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What ignominy it would be to have a daughter who isn't attractive!

What's sad is the viciousness with which chapel gossips treat the homely families.

Zenith · « **Reply #24 on:** August 16, 2011, 10:50:28 PM »

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The kind of talk after a 4th grade sex education class? I'm not going to spell it out for you.

Tele why are you talking about novus ordo and/or state schools? I'm well aware of the state of the "education" programming that goes on there. Thats why I was homeschooled. As far as I can see this thread was about Trad schools keeping boys and girls apart and hence I don't see that this sort of perverted sɛҳuąƖisation should be a problem hopefully.

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Oh give me a break - this was a novus ordo school. The talk was filthy from about 5th grade on - rap music by Ton Loc being played on a parents radio during school outings - and I noticed younger and younger children talking that way - I noticed that the corruption was getting worse at younger ages even as a student.

As I said above, why are you talking about novus ordo schools when the thread is on SSPX?
If you get novus ordo and state schools out of your mind a re-read what I have written in this thread in relation to SSPX/Trad schools then it may make some sense to you.

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Not a game of tag. Chasing with the idea of a male chasing down a girl.

Tell me in which SSPX/Trad school have you seen a "male chasing down a girl"?

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Children can do some pretty bad things - limits need to be set. That's not prudery. Catholic teachings are never prudery. It's possible for precocious children to commit such sins - and steps should be taken to ensure it doesn't happen. It's not just "playing doctor"

Tell me where that Catholic Churches that little boys and girls can't play together? Where does it say, "He who says little boys and girls can play tag together, let him be anathema."?

If children are raised well and put in a Trad school then I would hope they don't have to deal with the things you are talking about.

LordPhan · « **Reply #25 on:** August 16, 2011, 10:52:11 PM »

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The kind of talk after a 4th grade sex education class? I'm not going to spell it out for you.

Tele why are you talking about novus ordo and/or state schools? I'm well aware of the state of the "education" programming that goes on there. Thats why I was homeschooled. As far as I can see this thread was about Trad schools keeping boys and girls apart and hence I don't see that this sort of perverted sɛҳuąƖisation should be a problem hopefully.

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Oh give me a break - this was a novus ordo school. The talk was filthy from about 5th grade on - rap music by Ton Loc being played on a parents radio during school outings - and I noticed younger and younger children talking that way - I noticed that the corruption was getting worse at younger ages even as a student.

As I said above, why are you talking about novus ordo schools when the thread is on SSPX?
If you get novus ordo and state schools out of your mind a re-read what I have written in this thread in relation to SSPX/Trad schools then it may make some sense to you.

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Not a game of tag. Chasing with the idea of a male chasing down a girl.

Tell me in which SSPX/Trad school have you seen a "male chasing down a girl"?

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Children can do some pretty bad things - limits need to be set. That's not prudery. Catholic teachings are never prudery. It's possible for precocious children to commit such sins - and steps should be taken to ensure it doesn't happen. It's not just "playing doctor"

Tell me where that Catholic Churches that little boys and girls can't play together? Where does it say, "He who says little boys and girls can play tag together, let him be anathema."?

If children are raised well and put in a Trad school then I would hope they don't have to deal with the things you are talking about.

Just fixing your post so it didn't pain me to read.

LordPhan · « **Reply #26 on:** August 16, 2011, 10:54:06 PM »

ok now that I read it, I agree with Zenith.

Zenith · « **Reply #27 on:** August 16, 2011, 10:55:36 PM »

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Because I think chasing girls could be bad, it's not always innocent? Are you in Europe? Europeans love to get on their high horse about American prudery, but their culture is debauched.

No I'm not in Europe. So that counts me out of the debauchery I suppose.

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There's no inconsistency.

Yes there is inconsistency because you are talking about novus/state schools when no one else is. At least stick to the topic.

Caminus · « **Reply #28 on:** August 16, 2011, 10:57:36 PM »

Well, there was a women's court in the ancient Temple of Jerusalem and under the New Dispensation, men and women sat on opposite sides of the Church for a very long time, i.e. it was an ancient custom. Women were never allowed to sing in liturgical choirs either unless there were grave reasons to allow the practice. An ignorant, temerarious man would scoff at these facts.

Zenith · « **Reply #29 on:** August 16, 2011, 11:04:51 PM »

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Well, there was a women's court in the ancient Temple of Jerusalem and under the New Dispensation, men and women sat on opposite sides of the Church for a very long time, i.e. it was an ancient custom. Women were never allowed to sing in liturgical choirs either unless there were grave reasons to allow the practice. An ignorant, temerarious man would scoff at these facts.

So in that case do you think men and women should sit separately in Church?

I can see how a nice looking woman sitting in front of me in Church could be a slight distraction though I'm a fully grown man with all manly functions operating correctly (I think), though little children playing tag in the playground have not developed the same sort of attractions that would make me look at an attractive woman.
Also the Church and the playground are not the same and hence the same rule don't necessarily apply.